Epstein, Kiddies, And Trump. Oh, My

[Derec]

Well that ain't Epstine. Is it?

That's what I wrote below the photo.

It's FAKE. Last year I would have said "Photoshop". All I had was the one photo to go on.

It's REAL. It's just that the idiot who made the meme confused Epstein with Bourdain.

 

[unapologetic]

It's REAL. It's just that the idiot who made the meme confused Epstein with Bourdain.

Ask me if I give a shit.

 

[bilby]

My prediction: Ghislaine Maxwell will name Bill and Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, and, of course, Barack Obama as regular clients who came to Epstein Island. She’ll deny Trump ever had anything to do with him.

Trump will pardon her. Or at least commute the sentence.

Well, here's Obama with Epstein in Vietnam:
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Obviously, that's foodie Anthony Bourdain.

AI

No, AB.

 

[unapologetic]

I don't care if Rump is in Epstine's files. It's a given that he is.
I want to know if Ivanka is in Epstine's files.
Maybe that is what Rump is trying to hide.

 

[Derec]

Maybe first learn to spell his name. Oh, I know ...

Ask me if I give a shit.

Ok then.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I was thinking, the difference between Clinton and Trump in the Epstein files is that I voted for Clinton once... before Epstein was a known character in public. Trump supporters voted for Trump twice, when it was known Trump was involved with Epstein.

I don't care if Rump is in Epstine's files. It's a given that he is.

I'd say Trump has effectively admitted to it in his comments.

It is funny that they are talking to Maxwell... when they have the files. Anything Maxwell says doesn't trump the files. They are trying to blow a smokescreen over the very simple fact that there is incriminating evidence against Trump... and a whole bunch of other prominent (or once prominent) people.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's REAL. It's just that the idiot who made the meme confused Epstein with Bourdain.

Ask me if I give a shit.

Fighting on the wrong hill here.

 

[ZiprHead]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Already seen it. As a matter of fact, I think I posted such a thing a few pages back.

 

[Jarhyn]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Already seen it. As a matter of fact, I think I posted such a thing a few pages back.

Just to confirm, that's considered "pedophile apologia" here, yes?

 

[ZiprHead]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Already seen it. As a matter of fact, I think I posted such a thing a few pages back.

Just to confirm, that's considered "pedophile apologia" here, yes?

I didn't write it, I posted someone else posting it.

 

[Jarhyn]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Already seen it. As a matter of fact, I think I posted such a thing a few pages back.

Just to confirm, that's considered "pedophile apologia" here, yes?

I didn't write it, I posted someone else posting it.

I mean, we're debating on how long before someone does it, assumably here.

I think it's going to be hilarious when someone tries it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

A signed image just says "The persons or organizations who are vouching for the veracity of this image are the actual persons or organizations who we are claiming are vouching for the veracity of the image".

But why should I trust those persons or organizations?

There need not be a person or organization, merely a trusted factory.

Let's say Nikon Japan makes a tamper-resistant signing chip. Two keys, one for the unit, one for the series. The chips get both private keys and their public keys. And the public keys of every other chip in the series. The chips are embedded in cameras with an anti-tamper design. Every frame, the chip signs the image with both keys and includes the public keys. All cameras in the series are manufactured together. Once a series is complete all records of the private keys are destroyed.

NSA has no way of making an image with the proper signatures. Nor can they make up a fake camera because they have no way to make a private key that matches the public ones that are already published. You only need to trust that Nikon was not compromised at the time of the production run as the fakes will not show up in the list of proper keys that a bunch of people around the world will have.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The age thing doesn't bother me that much.
I cant stomach the thought of anyone haveing sex with Donald Rump.

Given how young some of them are and the circumstances I do not believe consent can realistically exist.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

I think it's possible for a 15 year old to realistically choose to have sex.

I do not think it's realistically possible for a 15 year old to choose this sort of thing. Even if it is not formally prostitution it comes pretty darn close and if a 15 year old actually chooses that there's something seriously wrong at home.

 

[Derec]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Well, a 15 year old is objectively not a child. He or she is a teenager, a transitional stage between childhood and adulthood, not quite like either of those two stages of life. Humans are not larvae until our 18th birthdays who then metamorphose into adults. No, we develop gradually, and the society needs to accept that. The notion that anybody below 18 is a full-on child is one of the more pernicious ideas that developed over the last few decades.

As far as age of consent, I think 16 is a good compromise age, and there should be close-age exceptions. I.e. a 16 year old with a 15 year old should be allowed. Note that 16 is the age of consent in most of the developed world, including some US states, and that 18 as age of consent is the exception.
As far as being a sex worker, 18 is a good cutoff as the age of majority. Note that none of this makes forced or coerced sex ok, regardless of age, although younger ages of vicims make it worse, of course.

Note that I will most likely be attacked by the likes of Toni and Jarhyn for having a nuanced position on the matter, and because I do not think that somebody 17 years and 364 days old is a "child" who is unable to consent to sex.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

I think it's possible for a 15 year old to realistically choose to have sex.

15 year olds have sex. This isn't a secret. The issue is middle aged plus well-to-do men having sex with underaged females, with at least some (most?) that were likely coerced into an arrangement.

 

[Derec]

Just to confirm, that's considered "pedophile apologia" here, yes?

Pedophilia is being primarily attracted to prepubescent children. It is one of the most misused terms in contemporary discourse. So much so, that even being with a 19 year old will get you accused of "pedophilia" by some, particularly among the Gen Z.

 

[ZiprHead]

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Well, a 15 year old is objectively not a child. He or she is a teenager, a transitional stage between childhood and adulthood, not quite like either of those two stages of life. Humans are not larvae until our 18th birthdays who then metamorphose into adults. No, we develop gradually, and the society needs to accept that. The notion that anybody below 18 is a full-on child is one of the more pernicious ideas that developed over the last few decades.

As far as age of consent, I think 16 is a good compromise age, and there should be close-age exceptions. I.e. a 16 year old with a 15 year old should be allowed. Note that 16 is the age of consent in most of the developed world, including some US states, and that 18 as age of consent is the exception.
As far as being a sex worker, 18 is a good cutoff as the age of majority. Note that none of this makes forced or coerced sex ok, regardless of age, although younger ages of vicims make it worse, of course.

Note that I will most likely be attacked by the likes of Toni and Jarhyn for having a nuanced position on the matter, and because I do not think that somebody 17 years and 364 days old is a "child" who is unable to consent to sex.

Here you go.

So, how long before "15 years old isn't a child" arguments start coming in?

Already seen it. As a matter of fact, I think I posted such a thing a few pages back.

Just to confirm, that's considered "pedophile apologia" here, yes?

I didn't write it, I posted someone else posting it.

I mean, we're debating on how long before someone does it, assumably here.

I think it's going to be hilarious when someone tries it.