Climate Change(d)?

[TSwizzle]

The rise in ocean temperature is causing mass migrations of ocean life and threatening marine food supplies.

Really?

We are in trouble right now.

No we are not. But you go ahead and prepare yourself for the rapture. I’ll be taking it easy in Santa Monica sipping a cocktail

 

[Politesse]

Nobody has claimed that co2 "controls the world's climate."

Male bovine excrement. Net Zero is sold as the only thing that will save the planet from the climate apocalypse. The obsession with CO2 needs to stop.

No matter how many times your fallacy is repeated, it won't be true, Co2 is in fact a greenhouse gas....and you know what that means.

It means an imperceptible rise in global temperature (not a bad thing actually) not the oceans are boiling and we still don't need Net Zero. .

If it is measurable and the effects of the increase in temperature are happening, it's not "imperceptible."

Earth’s climate (and temperature) fluctuates naturally. There really is nothing remarkable about that.

By how much usually, across what timeframe? And what are the consequences of relatively sudden climactic shifts, according to the paleontological and archaeological record?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Earth’s climate (and temperature) fluctuates naturally.

how do you know this?

 

[DBT]

Nobody has claimed that co2 "controls the world's climate."

Male bovine excrement. Net Zero is sold as the only thing that will save the planet from the climate apocalypse. The obsession with CO2 needs to stop.

No matter how many times your fallacy is repeated, it won't be true, Co2 is in fact a greenhouse gas....and you know what that means.

It means an imperceptible rise in global temperature (not a bad thing actually) not the oceans are boiling and we still don't need Net Zero. .

If it is measurable and the effects of the increase in temperature are happening, it's not "imperceptible."

Earth’s climate (and temperature) fluctuates naturally. There really is nothing remarkable about that.

It's the nature and cause of the fluctuation that is now the issue.

 

[TSwizzle]

It's the nature and cause of the fluctuation that is now the issue.

Don’t sweat it fella, it’s not much of an issue.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's the nature and cause of the fluctuation that is now the issue.

Don’t sweat it fella, it’s not much of an issue.

Juneau might disagree as they await a potentially major glacial flood, an emerging annual issue that didn't exist before 2011.

Forecasters estimate 14.6 billion gallons of water were released during last year's flood, enough to fill more than 22,000 Olympic-sized swimming pools, according to the weather service. Previous years floods have swamped basements, destroyed infrastructure and collapsed buildings near the riverbanks.

A glacial outburst like this occurs when an ice dam holding back a lake - in this case Suicide Basin - collapses from the summer heat, releasing the water in a short period of time. Suicide Basin is part of the Mendenhall Glacier, a popular tourist destination easily reached from Juneau.

Federal scientists say climate change is causing the glacier to melt faster, along with altering rainfall patterns, exacerbating the danger. The first recorded outburst flood from the glacier happened 2011, according to the National Weather Service.

The river is closing in on 16 feet now. Not exactly certain which gage they are using.

 

[Swammerdami]

Forecasters estimate 14.6 billion gallons of water were released during last year's flood, enough to fill more than 22,000 Olympic-sized swimming pools, according to the weather service. Previous years floods have swamped basements, destroyed infrastructure and collapsed buildings near the riverbanks.

A glacial outburst like this occurs when an ice dam holding back a lake - in this case Suicide Basin - collapses from the summer heat, releasing the water in a short period of time. Suicide Basin is part of the Mendenhall Glacier, a popular tourist destination easily reached from Juneau.
. . .

With a name like Suicide Basin, I assume people are keeping clear of any danger.

I still remember the time a sweet-looking angel beckoned me down Ruelle de Matraque in Marseilles. Had my French been more fluent I should have avoided that trap.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Why are you even on a “discussion board” if you don’t want to answer even very simple questions?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The Internet won't pwn the libs on its own.

 

[Shadowy Man]

The Internet won't pwn the libs on its own.

Weather.com’s Santa Monica forecast disagrees with your assessment.

 

[TV and credit cards]

People are bad at ranking most and least significant contributors to climate change in the what can I do category...
Climate Action Literacy
Hey, don't bark at me. I'm just posting up the article.

 

[Politesse]

They aren't thinking through how dog food is produced. Raising and slaughtering a cow is a very carbon intensive process, but they don't usually slaughter a cow just to produce dog food. You wouldn't make your money back, never mind the carbon. If everyone else but the dogs were Vegans, the effective carbon cost of feeding our cats and dogs would be higher, but throwing away unwanted cuts of meat instead of rendering them into dog food is not greatly reducing carbon output. The biggest costs have already been shouldered by the time the cow reaches the slaughterhouse.

I am very, very guilty of eating milk and cheese though, despite knowing better. A commercial dairy is an utter disaster, ecologically. I'll let bilby handle making the requisite cow puns.

 

[robnisch]

It's the nature and cause of the fluctuation that is now the issue.

Don’t sweat it fella, it’s not much of an issue.

Juneau might disagree as they await a potentially major glacial flood, an emerging annual issue that didn't exist before 2011.

Forecasters estimate 14.6 billion gallons of water were released during last year's flood, enough to fill more than 22,000 Olympic-sized swimming pools, according to the weather service. Previous years floods have swamped basements, destroyed infrastructure and collapsed buildings near the riverbanks.

A glacial outburst like this occurs when an ice dam holding back a lake - in this case Suicide Basin - collapses from the summer heat, releasing the water in a short period of time. Suicide Basin is part of the Mendenhall Glacier, a popular tourist destination easily reached from Juneau.

Federal scientists say climate change is causing the glacier to melt faster, along with altering rainfall patterns, exacerbating the danger. The first recorded outburst flood from the glacier happened 2011, according to the National Weather Service.

The river is closing in on 16 feet now. Not exactly certain which gage they are using.

My old home of over 43 years!

Suicide Basin

Check out the web cams!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The top three individual actions that help the climate, including avoiding plane flights, choosing not to get a dog and using renewable electricity, were also the three that participants underestimated the most. Meanwhile, the lowest-impact actions were changing to more efficient appliances and swapping out light bulbs, recycling, and using less energy on washing clothes. Those were three of the top four overestimated actions in the report.

Indeed. I had a discussion with a coworker when we swapped out our lights in the office for more efficient lights. The problem was we generally replaced them bulb for bulb, so the savings wasn't that good. Especially in light (no pun intended) that the bulbs provided more lumens for a tad less energy. So we replaced something that was working with something that was marginally better. NOT GREEN! Using renewable energy? Our national grid is fungible. It doesn't matter who uses what, we need it all, so unless you have a massive nuclear power plant you installed in the backyard, using "renewable" generally a shell game.

Getting a dog increases your carbon footprint. But there are things to do that reduce your footprint. Heating efficiency, holding the heat/cool in efficiency. Insulation alone can be a huge gain for reducing the footprint. Replacing your windows, almost nothing, unless we are talking VERY old windows that leak air like an open door. Then there is living closer to work and shopping/typical destinations. A car that is driven less produces less emissions, and if you get a good car, you don't need to replace it for 15+ years. Recycling doesn't help carbon footprint other than probably aluminum and maybe other metals. Recycling reduces waste and disposal. That's it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Broke the record at 16.65 ft this morning. It is now dropping. Sure, the flooding only started happening in 2011, but times and the climate change.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Nobody has claimed that co2 "controls the world's climate."

Male bovine excrement. Net Zero is sold as the only thing that will save the planet from the climate apocalypse. The obsession with CO2 needs to stop.

No matter how many times your fallacy is repeated, it won't be true, Co2 is in fact a greenhouse gas....and you know what that means.

It means an imperceptible rise in global temperature (not a bad thing actually) not the oceans are boiling and we still don't need Net Zero. .

If it is measurable and the effects of the increase in temperature are happening, it's not "imperceptible."

Earth’s climate (and temperature) fluctuates naturally. There really is nothing remarkable about that.

But it's irrelevant. What we are seeing isn't natural. Go to the beach. Note the waves coming in. Basically random (although cyclic on a short time scale). Note the tide coming in. Very predictable.

You are looking at the variation due to the waves and proclaiming there is no such thing as tides.

 

[TSwizzle]

I can’t imagine being so obsessed with “carbon” that you would fret about having a slice of cheese, having a pet dog or taking a flight. Baffling.

But then again, like all religions, the climate change cult is bound to have these irrational observations. Like muslims washing their feet before praying in case allah gets mad at them for having stinky feet.

 

[DBT]

Who's obsessed? Rising co2 levels inevitably lead to warming of the planet. That's all, it's not hard to grasp. You don't need to be obsessed.

 

[TSwizzle]

Who's obsessed? {snip}

People who fret about having a slice of cheese, having a pet, taking a flight, worrying about their “carbon footprint” etc.

 

[DBT]

Who's obsessed? {snip}

People who fret about having a slice of cheese, having a pet, taking a flight, worrying about their “carbon footprint” etc.

Why would that concern you? If someone wants to feel like they are doing something, that's their business. It shouldn't matter to you.