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Can you name someone (other than The Felon) that you would like to WIN the presidency* in ‘28?
I would vote for Cory Booker.
Or Mayor Pete, Gretchen Whitmer. I could probably think of more but I'm watching the Lions/Dolphins game and I'm too old to do two things at once. :p
 
We are not seeing large scale speculative buying, we are seeing large scale flight from individuals renting out houses because it has become too risky for them. Same market, but the small fish are mostly driven out in favor of those big enough to be able to average out the risks. And those risks as always show up as an increased cost to the consumer.
Do you have any proof that it's what you say and not what Gospel said below?

Small landlords selling out doesn’t automatically lead to a handful of corporations controlling huge swaths of housing, unless you already have a system where Wall Street money can outbid working families every time. That’s not created by tenant protections, that’s a feature of the current market structure.
 
How is he an "advocate for genocide"?
This fact is well known and was widely reported on at the time: he promised Israel unconditional support the same day that Biden did, flying to Israel in person to do so.
There are plenty of things wrong with Newsom, but advocate for genocide isn't one of them. In case anyone here didn't see it, here's the post from last year where Politesse admitted Israel isn't committing genocide and isn't trying to:

People are abusing the word genocide (and hyperbole) in general in Israel v Hamas. Something doesn't have to be genocide to be wrong.
Ah, the old "No True Genocide" fallacy. I do sometimes cage with the phrase "religious ethnocide" for this very reason, but I don't really think this argument is made in good faith, either. No, a thing doesn't have to be genocide to be wrong. But neither does a thing have to be the exactly and only the Holocaust to count as an attempted genocide. Israel does not intend for the Palestinian people to exist on the other side of this conflict, at least not while in possession of their own land, faith, and culture. Their stance does not resemble that of the Nazi Party's with regard to themselves in 1945. But it is extremely similar to the Nazi Party's stance with regard to themselves in 1932.

And Hamas doesn't even hide the fact that they want Israel dead or vacated. The only thing preventing their executing that desire is the fact that they have no means whatsoever to make that happen. The Hamas Covenant's second line is a quotation:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

There's no winning this game, no "right" party to back, except for the large numbers of global citizens, Jews and Muslims and heretics alike, who truly do not desire to see this conflict end in the extermination of a people. And those that may currently support the conflict but might be convinced not to. And there are a great many people of both kinds in the world.
If he sincerely thought "Israel does not intend for the Palestinian people to exist on the other side of this conflict.", full stop, then he wouldn't have added the "at least not while in possession of their own land, faith, and culture" part.

Here's the post where he tried to defend his trumped-up accusation of genocide after I called him on it:
The greatest moral violation, apparently: falsely accusing someone of wanting to kill thousands of children, when they actually just don't care very much whether hundreds of children are killed tertiary to their political goals. The outrage! How can we have a civil society when a mass murderer can't even take down five or six kids in ten minutes without having their motives questioned by the morality police? In public! It's just not polite.
The question of whether polluting a thread on California with off-topic Hamas propaganda is enough to make Politesse an "advocate for genocide", I'll leave to others.
I remain as unimpressed as I have ever been with your rhetorical arguments concerning the word "genocide". The mass killings are what offends me about genocide, not adherence to any particular definition thereof.

How you could possibly interpret me "derailing" a thread about California by condemning genocide as somehow advocating for genocide is perplexing. How did 2 and 2 make four there? I've never been remotely sympathetic to either things you agree are genocide, nor things that you do not agree are genocide.

As for the idea that any discussion of genocide could possibly be off-topic in a thread called "California doing California Things", that's absurd, and anyone with even a cursory knowledge of California history knows it. Without a history of multiple genocidal events, perpetrated by multiple parties over two grim centuries, there would be no California to discuss, at leaat not a California that resembles the one we have, a massive contiguous mini-nation whose lands were by 1950 controlled almost entirely by either the federal goveenment or by Anglo private owners. And you really can't understand the culture of California at all if you don't understand how much of it is built around keeping those very skeletons in the closet.

It really was not that long ago. Some of those who deny the California genocide are defending their own great-grandparent's actions, and they are certainly defending the real estate transferred to their families as a result of the genocide, from the Law of the River to the termination era to redlining, right down to Prop 13. The inheritors of the genocide do not want to give up an acre of what their forebears won for them, and we have developed one of the most elaborate, restrictive, and labyrinthine systems of property law on the planet to serve that end.
 
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He never gives the impression of having more than a superficial understanding of any issue.
IOW a hundred times better grasp than the bloated orange felon we’ve been blessed with.
I don’t even care. He would surround himself with less wicked, less stupid, less fascist people, who would allow a more effective and more democratic government than we have now.
A large segment of “the left” turn the perfect into the enemy of the good, and turn both the perfect and the good into the enemy of “better than we have now”.
 
IOW a hundred times better grasp than the bloated orange felon we’ve been blessed with.
Very true. But I think the meteoric career of both men, as well as many others currently in high office, says something pretty dismal about the current state of US political culture.

If what you're saying is that "better than Trump" is the highest we should aim for, even in aspiration, I disagree. That is taking the "low bar" lower than it has been since the Jackson presidency. We cannot afford to ask for so little of our politicians. It matters what kind of country we will have after Trump. Elections aside, he won't live forever. But we will still have to live with each other.
 
If what you're saying is that "better than Trump" is the highest we should aim for, even in aspiration, I disagree.
"Better than what we have now" should always be the aim. If it is, then it's a ratchet; It allows small improvements to become large ones over time, avoiding the difficulty and peril of attempting large improvements in a single step.

Like it or not, what you have now is Trump. So you need to set your immediate goals accordingly.

This does not preclude you from having a far more ambitious long term goal; But refusing to accept anything that falls short of that long term goal is (unfortunately) a sure way to fail to get any improvement at all.
 
"Better than what we have now" should always be the aim. If it is, then it's a ratchet; It allows small improvements to become large ones over time, avoiding the difficulty and peril of attempting large improvements in a single step.
I disagree. There has to be a ratchet in order for a ratchet-and-pawl model of history. If you mistake the slip for the goal, only stagnation can be expected. Small improvements are neither made nor kept by people with small conceptions and little initiative, but by generation after generation of high ideals and brave sacrifices.
 
If what you're saying is that "better than Trump" is the highest we should aim for, even in aspiration, I disagree.
Yeah I would disagree with that too.
What bilby said.
The best attainable result is what should get every bit of our effort. “Our” problem is that there’s no consensus about what results are attainable, not so much about what results are desirable.

"Better than what we have now" should always be the aim. If it is, then it's a ratchet; It allows small improvements to become large ones over time, avoiding the difficulty and peril of attempting large improvements in a single step.
I disagree. There has to be a ratchet in order for a ratchet-and-pawl model of history. If you mistake the slip for the goal, only stagnation can be expected. Small improvements are neither made nor kept by people with small conceptions and little initiative, but by generation after generation of high ideals and brave sacrifices.
Looks to me, Poli, like you say you disagree, then go on to agree, appending your agreement with a “yes, but”.
The result of your multigenerational aspiration depends on the ratchet operation. Better than we have now will get you there, given “generation after generation”. Taking moonshots hoping one will land will also get you there if infinite attempts are allowed. But they’re not.
 
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If what you're saying is that "better than Trump" is the highest we should aim for, even in aspiration, I disagree.
Yeah I would disagree with that too.
What bilby said.
The best attainable result is what should get every bit of our effort. “Our” problem is that there’s no consensus about what results are attainable, not so much about what results are desirable.

"Better than what we have now" should always be the aim. If it is, then it's a ratchet; It allows small improvements to become large ones over time, avoiding the difficulty and peril of attempting large improvements in a single step.
I disagree. There has to be a ratchet in order for a ratchet-and-pawl model of history. If you mistake the slip for the goal, only stagnation can be expected. Small improvements are neither made nor kept by people with small conceptions and little initiative, but by generation after generation of high ideals and brave sacrifices.
Looks to me, Poli, like you say you disagree, then go on to agree, appending your agreement with a “yes, but”.
The result of your multigenerational aspiration depends on the ratchet operation. Better than we have now will get you there, given “generation after generation”. Taking moonshots hoping one will land will also get you there if infinite attempts are allowed. But they’re not.
So, what, Rosa Parks should have been petitioning for better padding in the colored section and just sort of hoped that her grandchildren's grandchildren would one day be allowed to sit in the middle rows as long as they aren't too loud? Fuck that. A citizen is a citizen, and should accept nothing less. If saying that causes conflict, win the conflict. And if genocide is wrong, it's wrong. Politics requires concessions, yes, but if all you ask for are concessions, you'll never even get those. What politician cares about a constituency that demands nothing and doesn't ask for much? Trump isn't sliding back toward the mean, he's sliding deeper into insanity, because that's what his most active and vocal supporters want.
 
So, what, Rosa Parks should have been petitioning for better padding in the colored section and just sort of hoped that her grandchildren's grandchildren would one day be allowed to sit in the middle rows as long as they aren't too loud?
No, she should have disabled the bus by anny means anvailable until all the riders were randomly distributed by color and some POC was appointed Driver.
/facetious

If something can be “ratcheted” a notch by passive resistance I’m all for it. Rosa was timely with her refusal, and wasn’t lynched on the spot by the other passengers as she may have been some years earlier.

At the end of the day idealism is a driver, but realism gets it done.
 
The Montgomery bus boycott was not a request for gradually better treatment. It was a demand for immediate full and equal treatment of all citizens by the city bus system. And they had every right to demand that, and they were successful in attaining that. That is how society advances.
 
The Montgomery bus boycott was not a request for gradually better treatment. It was a demand for immediate full and equal treatment of all citizens by the city bus system.
That does not negate the FACTS that
A) she would have been killed in earlier years
Or
B) that her act eventually wrought more equitable access to bus seats for POC, which was tiny segment of black people’s life experiences, and did not produce some wholesale abolition of racist treatment as you imply. Its great significance does not negate its nature as a click within the ratcheting process.
 
She was risking death, and plenty of her comrades in arms were indeed killed that same year. And no, wholesale transformation of the American conscience was not achieved. It was, however, what she demanded. And she was right to do so. As were the thousands of other people involved in the boycott and its resolution. "Pipe down and ask for something smaller" won no rights for anyone.
 
My US history is a touch rusty, but I don't recall which year it was that Rosa Parks ran for President. ;)

Revolutionary and subversive actions to fight severe wrongs are not in the same category as selection of a Presidential candidate and/or policy platform with a view to improving national governance through the routine mechanism of the electoral system.
 
I don't recall which year it was that Rosa Parks ran for President.
I’m no expert either, but if she ran I don’t recall her WINNING.
However, a black guy did get to serve 8 years before the ratchet slipped again. We’re not back to pre-Rosa days yet, and hopefully won’t go there. But failing to support anyone short of Jesus incarnate will land us right there, or worse.
 
Revolutionary and subversive actions to fight severe wrongs are not in the same category as selection of a Presidential candidate and/or policy platform with a view to improving national governance through the routine mechanism of the electoral system.
Severe wrongs ARE happening. We are loosing our country as we've known it. It is time for some revolutionary and subversive actions.
 
My US history is a touch rusty, but I don't recall which year it was that Rosa Parks ran for President. ;)

Revolutionary and subversive actions to fight severe wrongs are not in the same category as selection of a Presidential candidate and/or policy platform with a view to improving national governance through the routine mechanism of the electoral system.
Alright, which US presidents can you name? Which ones come to mind first?
 
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The reason big real estate investment firms and corporate landlords have been buying up properties in bulk is because tenants' rights legislation has gone to such an extreme it's made renting out residential property so dangerous to the owners that a huge fraction of those moving out of their houses are choosing to sell rather than gamble their life savings on getting into the landlord business. Rental risk is diversifiable, which means the market won't pay you to take the risk, which makes taking the risk irrational for anybody who isn't big enough to diversify his operation over hundreds of tenants. This artificial suppression of competition from traditional mom-and-pop landlords drives up rents, giving corporations an incentive to outbid regular people trying to buy homes. So of course corporations are going to end up owning a ton of the housing.

"Landlords in LA cannot evict tenants from any rental property, including single-family homes, unless there was unpaid rent, documented lease violations, owner move-ins, or other specific reasons that would justify moving the tenant out. The Los Angeles Housing Department keeps a specific list of the allowed “at-fault” eviction reasons and the “no-fault” legal reasons for eviction. Landlords will also have to pay relocation assistance to tenants if the eviction is for “no-fault” reasons. Some tenants already had “just cause” eviction protections in place thanks to the state law, but LA has made them universal, expanding the protections to about 400,000 additional units. If these laws did not apply to your property before, they might apply now. This is one of the most significant new rental laws in LA, because all units in the city are now covered by the protections."​
Addressing paragraph 2: Real estate investment firms invest in targeted markets across the US where they can maximize rents in and around metro areas. It has little if anything to do with "extreme tenants rights legislation".
There is nothing particularly dangerous for mom and pop with a few rentals. Even if mom and pop do not want to take the time to read the landlord/tenant laws, there are management companies who do just this for about $100 a month per. They know the laws and how to get a deadbeat out soonest IAW the law to minimize lost rent.

Addressing your quoted paragraph 3: I see nothing wrong with what is stated here. This looks very similar to what it was when I was a landlord some 20 years ago in San Diego. Looking up "at fault" and "no fault" evictions for LAHD, it looks perfectly reasonable.

I think what may be unique to California is if a landlord does not make repairs in a timely manner, tenants may have the repair done, subtracting the cost from the rent and providing a copy of receipt long with.
The problem isn't knowing the list of grounds for eviction, but what isn't in the list: because the lease is up. That means if you want to sell somebody one-year occupation of your property, you're required to throw in an option for much longer occupation. Just like a stock option, an occupation option has a price. It costs the seller something to provide it; it benefits the buyer to have it. If there were no such ordinance, the owner and the renter would still be able to include that option in the terms of the lease if they wanted to -- they could negotiate an agreeable price for the option so it's mutually beneficial. I.e. if the place you rent comes with an option to stay after the lease is up, you'd expect to pay a higher rent; if you make an enforceable promise to leave after a year, in exchange you'd expect to pay lower rent. Making the option compulsory doesn't make it free; it just means the owner will take it into account when calculating how much rent to charge. If the city allowed the renter to waive that right in the rental contract he could get a lower price. But how much lower?

The cost of an option has two components. The first is the expected return: the present value of what it will cost the seller if you exercise it, times the probability that you'll exercise it. The second component is a premium for the risk -- the uncertainty of whether you'll stay past the lease end. There's no point investing in a risky asset if you can invest in a lower-risk asset with the same expected return; the market therefore pays investors higher returns for riskier investments. But how much higher?

That turns on the question of whether a bad outcome from the investment is correlated with bad outcomes from other investments. Whether a renter chooses to exercise his option to stay past the end of the lease is normally uncorrelated with whether some other renter does the same, which means the risk is "diversifiable" -- each renter is deciding based on his own situation, not based on some environmental constraint that affects all renters at once. As Wikipedia explains, the risk premium depends on whether the risk is diversifiable. "The capital asset pricing model argues that investors should only be compensated for non-diversifiable risk." The idea is that an investor can make diversifiable risk go away by diversifying her investments, so why would the market compensate her for uncertainty she doesn't actually face? If she tries to charge a diversifiable risk premium, go find some competing investor who charges a risk premium only for his non-diversifiable risk. So the implication for rentals is, how much risk premium for renters exercising their option to stay will the market bear? A big fat zero. Property owners do not get compensated for taking a chance on a renter leaving when the owner wants him out, because a diversified property owner isn't actually running any risk -- she may not know up front whether any given renter will move out, but she has a hundred rental units, and she has experience telling her, say, about 30% of the ones she wants to go will insist on staying, which is all she really needs to know.

The trouble is, this market situation screws over any landlord who only has one or a few units. Theoretical diversifiability doesn't make him actually diversified -- he doesn't own enough units for that. So the ordinance in effect orders him to sell a high-risk-to-him option for the low-risk price. So it reverses the comparative advantage. In a free market for rentals the small landlord has a comparative advantage over the giant corporation. He's intimately familiar with the local housing market, he can make repairs himself or else knows who will do them at the best price, and he knows his tenants personally. But require him to give tenants an option on extending their stays and the giant corporation has the comparative advantage. Now the economically rational move for the small owner is to sell out to the giant corporation.
 
My US history is a touch rusty, but I don't recall which year it was that Rosa Parks ran for President. ;)

Revolutionary and subversive actions to fight severe wrongs are not in the same category as selection of a Presidential candidate and/or policy platform with a view to improving national governance through the routine mechanism of the electoral system.
Alright, which US presidents can you name? Which ones come to mind first?
Excluding the ones from my own lifetime, the first to mind are the ones who were interesting, if not necessarily for reasons they would have chosen; The likes of Teddy Roosevelt (and once Roosevelt is in the mind, FDR jumps in too). Truman, for dropping the bomb; Wilson during the Great War; Hoover for the Great Depression; and the "historical" guys, Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson.

I could probably name more if I sat down to think about it.

From my own lifetime, they all appeared in the news, so Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, Trump, Biden. Kennedy was before my time, but was (and is) still news every so often due to his assassination and associated conspiracy theories. LBJ too, a bit early for me but notable for Vietnam, particularly the Australian support he pushed hard to increase.
 
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The reason big real estate investment firms and corporate landlords have been buying up properties in bulk is because tenants' rights legislation has gone to such an extreme it's made renting out residential property so dangerous to the owners that a huge fraction of those moving out of their houses are choosing to sell rather than gamble their life savings on getting into the landlord business. Rental risk is diversifiable, which means the market won't pay you to take the risk, which makes taking the risk irrational for anybody who isn't big enough to diversify his operation over hundreds of tenants. This artificial suppression of competition from traditional mom-and-pop landlords drives up rents, giving corporations an incentive to outbid regular people trying to buy homes. So of course corporations are going to end up owning a ton of the housing.

"Landlords in LA cannot evict tenants from any rental property, including single-family homes, unless there was unpaid rent, documented lease violations, owner move-ins, or other specific reasons that would justify moving the tenant out. The Los Angeles Housing Department keeps a specific list of the allowed “at-fault” eviction reasons and the “no-fault” legal reasons for eviction. Landlords will also have to pay relocation assistance to tenants if the eviction is for “no-fault” reasons. Some tenants already had “just cause” eviction protections in place thanks to the state law, but LA has made them universal, expanding the protections to about 400,000 additional units. If these laws did not apply to your property before, they might apply now. This is one of the most significant new rental laws in LA, because all units in the city are now covered by the protections."​
Addressing paragraph 2: Real estate investment firms invest in targeted markets across the US where they can maximize rents in and around metro areas. It has little if anything to do with "extreme tenants rights legislation".
There is nothing particularly dangerous for mom and pop with a few rentals. Even if mom and pop do not want to take the time to read the landlord/tenant laws, there are management companies who do just this for about $100 a month per. They know the laws and how to get a deadbeat out soonest IAW the law to minimize lost rent.

Addressing your quoted paragraph 3: I see nothing wrong with what is stated here. This looks very similar to what it was when I was a landlord some 20 years ago in San Diego. Looking up "at fault" and "no fault" evictions for LAHD, it looks perfectly reasonable.

I think what may be unique to California is if a landlord does not make repairs in a timely manner, tenants may have the repair done, subtracting the cost from the rent and providing a copy of receipt long with.
The problem isn't knowing the list of grounds for eviction, but what isn't in the list: because the lease is up. That means if you want to sell somebody one-year occupation of your property, you're required to throw in an option for much longer occupation. Just like a stock option, an occupation option has a price. It costs the seller something to provide it; it benefits the buyer to have it. If there were no such ordinance, the owner and the renter would still be able to include that option in the terms of the lease if they wanted to -- they could negotiate an agreeable price for the option so it's mutually beneficial. I.e. if the place you rent comes with an option to stay after the lease is up, you'd expect to pay a higher rent; if you make an enforceable promise to leave after a year, in exchange you'd expect to pay lower rent. Making the option compulsory doesn't make it free; it just means the owner will take it into account when calculating how much rent to charge. If the city allowed the renter to waive that right in the rental contract he could get a lower price. But how much lower?

The cost of an option has two components. The first is the expected return: the present value of what it will cost the seller if you exercise it, times the probability that you'll exercise it. The second component is a premium for the risk -- the uncertainty of whether you'll stay past the lease end. There's no point investing in a risky asset if you can invest in a lower-risk asset with the same expected return; the market therefore pays investors higher returns for riskier investments. But how much higher?

That turns on the question of whether a bad outcome from the investment is correlated with bad outcomes from other investments. Whether a renter chooses to exercise his option to stay past the end of the lease is normally uncorrelated with whether some other renter does the same, which means the risk is "diversifiable" -- each renter is deciding based on his own situation, not based on some environmental constraint that affects all renters at once. As Wikipedia explains, the risk premium depends on whether the risk is diversifiable. "The capital asset pricing model argues that investors should only be compensated for non-diversifiable risk." The idea is that an investor can make diversifiable risk go away by diversifying her investments, so why would the market compensate her for uncertainty she doesn't actually face? If she tries to charge a diversifiable risk premium, go find some competing investor who charges a risk premium only for his non-diversifiable risk. So the implication for rentals is, how much risk premium for renters exercising their option to stay will the market bear? A big fat zero. Property owners do not get compensated for taking a chance on a renter leaving when the owner wants him out, because a diversified property owner isn't actually running any risk -- she may not know up front whether any given renter will move out, but she has a hundred rental units, and she has experience telling her, say, about 30% of the ones she wants to go will insist on staying, which is all she really needs to know.

The trouble is, this market situation screws over any landlord who only has one or a few units. Theoretical diversifiability doesn't make him actually diversified -- he doesn't own enough units for that. So the ordinance in effect orders him to sell a high-risk-to-him option for the low-risk price. So it reverses the comparative advantage. In a free market for rentals the small landlord has a comparative advantage over the giant corporation. He's intimately familiar with the local housing market, he can make repairs himself or else knows who will do them at the best price, and he knows his tenants personally. But require him to give tenants an option on extending their stays and the giant corporation has the comparative advantage. Now the economically rational move for the small owner is to sell out to the giant corporation.
B - I can't find support of this, not that it's my job to do so. Got an LAHD link?
 
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