It's been there from the very start.
Most of the time they have simply oppressed the non-Muslims, especially the Jews. Occasional pogroms have happened basically everywhere, though.
Just because the Nazis got in on the antisemitism game doesn't mean it's exclusive to them.
You appear to be implying that the Nazis got the idea to "kill all Jews" from Muslims. Are you? If so, that's a form of Holocaust denial. You are shifting the responsibility and the blame for the most horrific slaughter and crime against humanity from the white Christian Europeans who committed it to brown Muslim Arabs who never even attempted it.
Why does it have to be in either direction?
It doesn't "have to be" in either direction.
But lying about who got the idea to "kill all Jews" is lying, no matter which direction you are claiming it went.
Nazis got the idea to "kill all Jews". They pursued that course of action and succeeded in killing over 6 million Jews in less than a decade.
I don't see why you're going on about lying. I never said the Nazis got it from the Muslims, merely that both had it. Antisemitism has been popular for a long time, I see no reason to think either got it from the other. Jews were the biggest out-group in Europe and there is the historical legacy that they were bankers because the others were prohibited from doing so. Of course they were a target.
If you want to make the claim that a Muslim State got the same idea and pursued it, post the evidence that supports your position. Don't just say it happened, show that it happened.
And while you're at it, show us the evidence Palestinian Jews were enslaved by their Christian and Muslim Palestinian neighbors. if you actually found some. But if all you have is bullshit and blather, don't bother posting it. All that does is clutter up the thread with nonsense.
Jews in most of the world were like blacks between the Civil War and the civil rights era. Not enslaved, but definitely second class citizens.
Jews have been convenient bogeymen for a long time. Especially since the Christian proscription on "usury" meant that bankers were non-Christian, which generally meant Jewish.
Which is why Europe became the hotbed for virulent anti-Semitism, not Palestine.
Learn some history, Loren. Europe was where Jews were locked up at night. Europe is where they were targeted for abuse, torture, expulsion, and murder. Europe is where a State got the idea to "kill all Jews" and made one hell of an effort to do it.
I know you dislike criticizing white folks, but the white Christian Europeans are the ones who tried to "kill all Jews". Lying about that does a disservice to everyone.
I don't know what you're going on about because you're not presenting any refutation. Yes, Jews were treated badly in Europe. That is in no way an indication they weren't treated badly elsewhere.
Obviously minor, but one I stumbled on recently:
الاطماع اليهودية في الديار الاردنية ومقاومتها:<br><br>لنفهم الذي قام به كايد المفلح علينا ان نعود في التاريخ عشرات...
www.ammonnews.net
(In regard to Jewish purchase of some farmland)
translation said:
In the summer of 1876, a meeting was held in the town of Sakab, known as “Sakab Night,” at the guesthouse of Sheikh Raja Mustafa Al-Ayasra to discuss the issue of Jewish land acquisitions in eastern Jordan. The meeting included sheikhs and notables from the Bani Hassan tribe and some northern Jordanian tribes, chaired by Sheikh Muflih Ubeidat, “Abu Kaid,” the sheikh of Kfar Som. The attendees decided to attack the two Jewish settlements with whatever weapons they had, and indeed, the fighters burned the settlements of Rahil and Khirbet Aybta, expelling the Jews from the area. They then proceeded to Salt and burned the third settlement, Kfar Yehuda.
That's a Jordanian paper, it presents no reason for the action other than that they were Jews. That's what you say wasn't happening.
Ffs, Loren, did you not read your own article?
The very first paragraph says
In order to understand what Kayed al-Mufleh did, we have to go back in history for decades, as the movement of Sheikh Kayed al-Mufleh al-Obaidat came in defense of Palestine and Jordan against the ambitions of the Jews and Zionists in the Jordanian lands.
"[A]gainst the ambitions of Jews and Zionists in the Jordanian lands", not to "kill all Jews"
You failed to note the context. Their only "wrong" was daring to purchase some land and farm it. They triggered the attack by existing. You are blaming them for triggering the attack, thus you're in effect blaming them for existing.
And the second paragraph talks about the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916, the secret treaty between France and the United Kingdom with the backing of other European powers on the division of the region between France and Britain, the Balfour Declaration of 1917 that proposed dividing the region between European Zionist immigrants and the Palestinian population, and the call for the annexation of Transjordan to a proposed Jewish State. So, yeah, there was plenty of reason for the locals to work against the ambitions of Jews and Zionists on Jordanian lands.
And the third paragraph has this:
Tens of thousands of copies of Jabotinsky's poem were distributed, in which it is stated: "The Jordan River has two banks, one for us and the other for us; the religious feeling of the Jews was united, and the Zionists forgot their differences. This is what made Mufleh Al-Obeidat and his son Kayed Al-Mufleh Al-Obeidat and the patriots with him to confront these historical ambitions
No where in any of that is a call to "kill all Jews".
And nothing in that article is anything close to the bigotry, hate, and planning of mass murder the Nazis engaged in.
I didn't say that particular incident was about killing Jews. Rather, it was about burning them out for the crime of being there.
Well, in that case, it's obvious you didn't read the article.
It is also obvious you are straining to shift the goalposts. Don't hurt yourself, they're not going to move.
DrZiodberg made an unsupported assertion about Muslims getting over "anti-Israel tribalism" and said it was "an improvement over the old idea, i.e. "kill all Jews"
I
asked when was "kill all Jews" the idea of Muslim states, reminded folks the Nazis were Christians and Nazi Germany was in Europe, pointed out the Palestinians weren't interested in killing all Jews and neither were the Jordanians, the Lebanese, the Egyptians, etc.
You jumped in to support DrZoidberg's posts but have utterly failed to provide any evidence that "kill all Jews" was an idea held by a Muslim state at any time.
Do you have evidence anyone besides the Nazis had the idea to "kill all Jews"? If so, then post it.
