Why is Trump going out of his way to make people suffer?

[GenesisNemesis]

The government is the last place I'd look for recommendations on a healthy diet. The people within who make these recommendations come from and return to the food industry.
It is best to replace red meat with beans and nuts as much as possible, keeping the fish and poultry.
Personally I largely stay away from dairy and prefer a vitamin D supplement.

Harvard's Healthy Eating Pyramid.

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Look at the base of this pyramid. Looks like portion control and dreaded exercise.

Personally I don't do much for diet besides get my basic nutrition (and make sure I don't get dangerously skinny, of course). I'm going to be burning away all of my calories at my job anyway though.

 

[TV and credit cards]

If she can come down off the ceiling long enough, Melania will be preparing a delicious Walmart dinner this year that is 25% less than last year.
25% less what is the question.

 

[excreationist]

If she can come down off the ceiling long enough, Melania will be preparing a delicious Walmart dinner this year that is 25% less than last year.
25% less what is the question.

More details about this:

Trump appears to equate a Walmart Thanksgiving meal deal with an economic indicator

President Donald Trump claims the cost of Thanksgiving dinner will be cheaper this year, appearing to equate a Walmart promotion with an economic indicator.

abcnews.go.com

In a post on his social media platform, Trump wrote: "2025 Thanksgiving dinner under Trump is 25% lower than 2024 Thanksgiving dinner under Biden, according to Walmart. My cost are lower than the Democrats on everything, especially oil and gas! So the Democrats 'affordability' issue is DEAD! STOP LYING!!!"

When it comes to the Walmart promotion, this year's bundle includes fewer items -- 15 compared to 21 last year -- and a higher percentage of store-brand items.

 

[crazyfingers]

If she can come down off the ceiling long enough, Melania will be preparing a delicious Walmart dinner this year that is 25% less than last year.
25% less what is the question.

More details about this:

Trump appears to equate a Walmart Thanksgiving meal deal with an economic indicator

President Donald Trump claims the cost of Thanksgiving dinner will be cheaper this year, appearing to equate a Walmart promotion with an economic indicator.

abcnews.go.com

In a post on his social media platform, Trump wrote: "2025 Thanksgiving dinner under Trump is 25% lower than 2024 Thanksgiving dinner under Biden, according to Walmart. My cost are lower than the Democrats on everything, especially oil and gas! So the Democrats 'affordability' issue is DEAD! STOP LYING!!!"

When it comes to the Walmart promotion, this year's bundle includes fewer items -- 15 compared to 21 last year -- and a higher percentage of store-brand items.

Ya I read a breakdown at a different source. He's comparing applies and oranges as they say. Essentially lying again. But Fox or Newsmax or other right wing sources won't inform their viewers of that and some of his cult followers will believe his lie.

However I was reading that even some Trump voters have observed that grocery prices are not going down overall.

And Bird Flu is waking up again. If we don't all die of bird flu this winter then the price of eggs and chicken will likely skyrocket again. The Trump administration will likely totally screw up any response to a bird flu crisis this winter.

 

[Shadowy Man]

If she can come down off the ceiling long enough, Melania will be preparing a delicious Walmart dinner this year that is 25% less than last year.
25% less what is the question.

More details about this:

Trump appears to equate a Walmart Thanksgiving meal deal with an economic indicator

President Donald Trump claims the cost of Thanksgiving dinner will be cheaper this year, appearing to equate a Walmart promotion with an economic indicator.

abcnews.go.com

In a post on his social media platform, Trump wrote: "2025 Thanksgiving dinner under Trump is 25% lower than 2024 Thanksgiving dinner under Biden, according to Walmart. My cost are lower than the Democrats on everything, especially oil and gas! So the Democrats 'affordability' issue is DEAD! STOP LYING!!!"

When it comes to the Walmart promotion, this year's bundle includes fewer items -- 15 compared to 21 last year -- and a higher percentage of store-brand items.

So, 71% of the items at 75% the cost. Sounds like a good deal to me!1!

 

[excreationist]

When it comes to the Walmart promotion, this year's bundle includes fewer items -- 15 compared to 21 last year -- and a higher percentage of store-brand items.

So, 71% of the items at 75% the cost. Sounds like a good deal to me!1!

And don't forget a higher proportion were now store-brand items...
Trump also mentioned this example of better affordability at the White House

"They came out and they said Trump's Thanksgiving dinner -- same things -- is 25% less than Biden's ... We are the ones that have done a great job on affordability, not the Democrats," Trump said, linking the success of Democrats in Tuesday's elections to their messaging about "affordability," which he called a "con job."

 

[bilby]

Why is Trump going out of his way to make people suffer?

I can think of one possibility...

 

[excreationist]

Trump's government doing what it can to hurt SNAP recipients as much as possible:

Trump's USDA bars grocery stores from offering discount for SNAP recipients

As the government shutdown continues, millions of Americans who depend on SNAP benefits to buy food remain in limbo. In an effort to help SNAP recipients, John Leary, the General Manager of George Street Co-op in New Brunswick, NJ, posted on social media that they would offer a temporary...

www.msnbc.com

As the government shutdown continues, millions of Americans who depend on SNAP benefits to buy food remain in limbo. In an effort to help SNAP recipients, John Leary, the General Manager of George Street Co-op in New Brunswick, NJ, posted on social media that they would offer a temporary discount. But an hour later, they, along with other stores, received an email from the government telling them they couldn’t do that.

Feds told Oregon grocers they couldn’t offer 10% off to SNAP recipients, so they got creative

The honor system is in place at three Oregon stores, now offering discounts to all who need it.

www.oregonlive.com

The McGintys, who own the McMinnville Grocery Outlet, tried to offer a 10% discount to all SNAP recipients whose food-assistance money had been frozen. But when the feds told them no, they came up with a go-around: Extending the offer to all customers.

“Now there’s a catch to it, and I need your help as a community,” Mike McGinty announced in an Oct. 31 video posted to Facebook. “If you do not need a discount, please do not ask for it.”

But if you do, “Take it. Ask for it.”

 

[ZiprHead]

(While cutting SNAP benefits) Trump team secretly giving tax breaks to wealthy corporations: report

The Trump administration has been giving additional massive tax breaks to uber-wealthy corporations through under-the-radar notices, according to a report.

Through proposed regulations, the Treasury Department has offered tax relief to private equity firms, crypto companies, foreign real estate investors, and other large corporations, the New York Times first reported.

For example, in October, the IRS issued new proposed regulations that would provide breaks to foreign investors in U.S. real estate. In August, the IRS proposed a rollback of rules to prevent multinational corporations from dodging taxes by claiming duplicate losses in multiple countries.

How is that supposed to reduce housing costs?

 

[excreationist]

How is that supposed to reduce housing costs?

Reducing housing costs would help ordinary people so therefore it shouldn't be done. Promises could have been made but Trump's priorities now are rich donors, etc.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Fat does not equal lazy.

Well what does being obese fat say about most people? I think it says they spend too much time sitting on their fat ass playing on their PlayStation stuffing their face with Ring Dings, Twinkies and the like.

Yeah, you know one group of people where I see a some amount of overweightness? RNs. RNs are about the least laziest people that exist, and one of the most important too. They are on their feet for 10 to 12 hour shifts. Probably should eat better, exercise more.

Is there a profession that is free of overweight people?

Competitive endurance athletes.

And I've never seen a fattie more than a couple of miles into the wilderness.

 

[bilby]

Seems harsh. Can SNAP recipients still get R&B, Rock, or Classical?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

That's like 11 slices of bread, etc, a day! (and burger buns, pizza bases, breakfast cereals) Then there are diets that completely cut out grains/cereal even though this pyramid says they're the most important part of a healthy diet...
Grain is the equivalent of "animal feed" used for fattening animals up...

Agricultural surplus: In the 1970s–80s, the U.S. produced massive amounts of wheat, corn, and other grains. Promoting high grain consumption helped absorb this surplus.
Lobbying pressure: Food companies and grain producers lobbied the USDA to emphasize grains as the dietary foundation.

Fat is an awful lot more calories per gram than typical grain based foods.

And another bit I expect the MAHA crowd to trot out pretty soon is nobody's actually done a good study showing adverse health outcomes from a diet high in saturated fat. This is actually because of the lack of an adequate control group--by the time they got serious about such studies the average person had already dropped enough saturated fat from their diet that dropping it further has little impact. Doesn't mean going back to the old ways is good, though. (The first, small studies did show a benefit. That was before people got the message.)

And just because there are diets that do some particular thing doesn't make it a good idea. An awful lot of "diets" are hocus pocus.

I'll also say that we (wife and I) have done some fairly detailed calorie counting on her diet--much of the volume of what she eats is from the third group. But the majority of the calories are from the second group.

MAHA makes some lofty claims--but what they're actually after is almost 100% bad.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The government is the last place I'd look for recommendations on a healthy diet. The people within who make these recommendations come from and return to the food industry.
It is best to replace red meat with beans and nuts as much as possible, keeping the fish and poultry.
Personally I largely stay away from dairy and prefer a vitamin D supplement.

Harvard's Healthy Eating Pyramid.

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Look at the base of this pyramid. Looks like portion control and dreaded exercise.

One objection here: I asked my doc about this--there isn't actually any need for daily exercise. What counts is the amount, not the distribution. Those of us who engage in endurance activities can perfectly well get enough exercise on the weekends. Goal is 30 min/day--but 210 min on one day/week is the same, just something your average out of shape person can't do.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

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Seems harsh. Can SNAP recipients still get R&B, Rock, or Classical?

I suspect this is more about hostage taking. He's trying to make the Democrats cave rather than specifically trying to hurt people.

 

[ZiprHead]

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Seems harsh. Can SNAP recipients still get R&B, Rock, or Classical?

I suspect this is more about hostage taking. He's trying to make the Democrats cave rather than specifically trying to hurt people.

Fly by.

 

[excreationist]

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Seems harsh. Can SNAP recipients still get R&B, Rock, or Classical?

I suspect this is more about hostage taking. He's trying to make the Democrats cave rather than specifically trying to hurt people.

So they're hurting those SNAP recipients (banning discounts) to hurt Democrats? Note that it is affecting MAGA too to some degree. Maybe they did it because they knew it would get news coverage and cause some outrage...

 

[excreationist]

Fat is an awful lot more calories per gram than typical grain based foods.

Yeah fat is 9 calories/gram, and protein and carbs are 4 calories/gram. So "simple" sugar has less that half the calories of fat but it is less healthy than certain fats. It's more complicated than just the calories. To fatten chickens it is 20% protein, 60% carbs and 5% fat. But bird seed (without the goal of fattening them) can be 20% protein, 20% carbs and 50% fat.

 

[WAB]

Fat does not equal lazy.

Well what does being obese fat say about most people? I think it says they spend too much time sitting on their fat ass playing on their PlayStation stuffing their face with Ring Dings, Twinkies and the like.

Yeah, you know one group of people where I see a some amount of overweightness? RNs. RNs are about the least laziest people that exist, and one of the most important too. They are on their feet for 10 to 12 hour shifts. Probably should eat better, exercise more.

Is there a profession that is free of overweight people?

Competitive endurance athletes.

And I've never seen a fattie more than a couple of miles into the wilderness.

Wilderness schmilderness.

 

[lostone]

Let them eat cake....and fast food, too?

What/who do mountain lions eat?

Politicians/preachers who are not hypocrites?

Professional Long distance / Marathon runners?