How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Bronzeage]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

 

[barbos]

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or

Actually it does.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war

Nope, Ukro/Euro

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Nazis are going to lose the war they started.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets

That's a lie. it's actually euro-nazis who bomb civilians, Russia hits millitary infrastructure.

 

[bilby]

Nazis are going to lose the war they started.

Yup. And the chief nazi, Mad Vlad Putin, will be astonished when it happens.

Just as he was when his armoured strike on Kyiv was humiliated at the beginning of his latest absurd offensive.

He is fighting a nineteenth century war in the twentieth century, and it will end in the total overthrow of his system, just as Tsar Nicholas's attempt to fight a seventeenth century war in the early decades of the twentieth century did.

The whole idea of imperial power through military subjugation of smaller nations is a hundred and fifty years out of date. Apparently Mad Vlad never got the memo.

 

[DrZoidberg]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

 

[ZiprHead]

“Let me put it bluntly: If the little green men ever cross our border, we will shoot them. Those will be the consequences; there’s no arguing about it. If Russia isn’t sure we’ll actually react, they might test us."
-Estonian Foreign Minister Margus Tsahkna

Let me put it bluntly:
Estonia 1.373mil
Novosibirsk (3rd largest city in Russia) 1.673mil.
Yekaterinburg (4rd largest city in Russia) 1.536mil

Russian Federation population ~150mil soon to be ~170mil

So, Margus Tsahkna, shut the fuck up!

I have no idea what that even means???

 

[Harry Bosch]

“Let me put it bluntly: If the little green men ever cross our border, we will shoot them. Those will be the consequences; there’s no arguing about it. If Russia isn’t sure we’ll actually react, they might test us."
-Estonian Foreign Minister Margus Tsahkna

Let me put it bluntly:
Estonia 1.373mil
Novosibirsk (3rd largest city in Russia) 1.673mil.
Yekaterinburg (4rd largest city in Russia) 1.536mil

Russian Federation population ~150mil soon to be ~170mil

So, Margus Tsahkna, shut the fuck up!

I have no idea what that even means???

Well, Barbos is a bully imperialist. Margus is the defense minister of Estonia. Margus dared to stand up to the Nazis ruling Russia by stating yesterday "Our country will not hesitate to respond decisively if Russia attacks." Yes, Barbos: we know that Russia is bigger than Estonia. It is bigger than Ukraine. Individually it is bigger than every country in Europe. But together, in Nato, the countries can fight back imperialism if they stand together.

 

[Harry Bosch]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

 

[Bronzeage]

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or

Actually it does.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war

Nope, Ukro/Euro

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Nazis are going to lose the war they started.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets

That's a lie. it's actually euro-nazis who bomb civilians, Russia hits millitary infrastructure.

Posts like this are why no one takes you seriously and your mission is an abject failure. If I hadn't seen the past several years of your posts, I would think you're parroting a short list of phrases without any thought of how ridiculous it makes you appear.

It's fortunate you have been able to keep this job, considering the state of the Russian economy. But, considering that Russia thinks bombing street markets is a blow to Ukrainian military infrastructure, it's not really a surprise.

It would be unfortunate if your boss were to ever audit your work and discover your best posts have plagiarized from Pee Wee Herman. You'll likely trade your cozy nights in the basement, copying and pasting from todays instructions, to cold mornings starting the General's car.

 

[TV and credit cards]

“Let me put it bluntly: If the little green men ever cross our border, we will shoot them. Those will be the consequences; there’s no arguing about it. If Russia isn’t sure we’ll actually react, they might test us."
-Estonian Foreign Minister Margus Tsahkna

Let me put it bluntly:
Estonia 1.373mil
Novosibirsk (3rd largest city in Russia) 1.673mil.
Yekaterinburg (4rd largest city in Russia) 1.536mil

Russian Federation population ~150mil soon to be ~170mil

So, Margus Tsahkna, shut the fuck up!

I have no idea what that even means???

Well, Barbos is a bully imperialist. Margus is the defense minister of Estonia. Margus dared to stand up to the Nazis ruling Russia by stating yesterday "Our country will not hesitate to respond decisively if Russia attacks." Yes, Barbos: we know that Russia is bigger than Estonia. It is bigger than Ukraine. Individually it is bigger than every country in Europe. But together, in Nato, the countries can fight back imperialism if they stand together.

And as Russia has taught the world, it isn't about the numbers, it's about the will to fight.

 

[DrZoidberg]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

Reality check

The highest realistic estimate of dead Russian soldiers is 250 000. Casualties, ie dead and wounded, 400 000.

New Russian tactics now minimise Russian dead while taking territory the fastest they have yet.

 

[Harry Bosch]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

Reality check

The highest realistic estimate of dead Russian soldiers is 250 000. Casualties, ie dead and wounded, 400 000.

New Russian tactics now minimise Russian dead while taking territory the fastest they have yet.

I've seen estimates of 1.4 million causalities.

 

[DrZoidberg]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

Reality check

The highest realistic estimate of dead Russian soldiers is 250 000. Casualties, ie dead and wounded, 400 000.

New Russian tactics now minimise Russian dead while taking territory the fastest they have yet.

I've seen estimates of 1.4 million causalities.

Sure. But not serious bloggers. That's youtube pundits. There's more bullshit than truth online

Oryx blog is good. They supply photo references to lost equipment. And as such act as a sanity check for human losses

 

[ZiprHead]

There's more bullshit than truth online

You're online. Is that why you get the middle east issues so wrong?

 

[Bronzeage]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

Reality check

The highest realistic estimate of dead Russian soldiers is 250 000. Casualties, ie dead and wounded, 400 000.

New Russian tactics now minimise Russian dead while taking territory the fastest they have yet.

What new tactics?

The new Russian tactic that is taking territory faster is simply claiming that dead Russian soldiers are holding the territory. The only thing that has minimized Russian dead is there are less Russians to die.

 

[barbos]

Posts like this are why no one takes you seriously and your mission is an abject failure.

Then "one" is wrong. The fact is, I and my side are right and you and your side are wrong.
The fact is, Elensky's own adviser in 2019 goes out and says "Attacking Russia could be the price Ukraine have to pay to get into EU/NATO". Then a Swiss citizen merely quotes that in his analysis and EU Reich cancels him, taking his bank account and banning him from travel anywhere.
The fact is, Georgian Government said what they said and what they said was "EU wants us to attack Russia"

 

[barbos]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

Reality check

The highest realistic estimate of dead Russian soldiers is 250 000. Casualties, ie dead and wounded, 400 000.

New Russian tactics now minimise Russian dead while taking territory the fastest they have yet.

I've seen estimates of 1.4 million causalities.

These are estimates of Ukrainian casualties. Ukro Regime had and still have a habit of ascribing their losses to Russians.
If you believe what that clown claims then fine, go on with the war. At this point I have no problem with exterminating male population of Ukraine. I had doubts in the beginning, not anymore.

 

[barbos]

And still no comment on EU cancelling people who disagree with EU Führers.

We've been busy watching videos of burning Russian oil refineries.

Me watching dark streets of Odessa does not prevent me from commenting on everything.

This is why Russia is going to lose the war, Putin will be deposed and you'll be working for the third guy who takes his place. One would think the Russians who are in charge of strategic and tactical decisions are smarter than you, but there's no evidence of it.

The loss of power in Odessa does nothing to diminish Ukraine's ability to strike Russian naval vessels, oil refineries, oil tankers, or Generals. Your Air Force has lost more aircraft while it was parked than in the sky. It's like a man is slowly slicing your throat with a razor while you are poke him with your thumb, and threaten to poke him with both thumbs if he doesn't stop.

Russia sends missiles, drones, and bombs to hit civilian targets that pose not threat at all, while Ukraine is steadily chipping away at Russia's ability wage war. Just like your efforts on this forum, it's all a waste of lives and material.

Even if Putin wins, ie takes Ukrainian territory, Russia has still lost the war. The economic hit Russia has and will take after will take many generations to recover from. Russia wasn’t in great shape before the war either.

There's no plausible scenario where Russia will have benefited anything by this war.

Russia has lost any soft power they previously held. Sweden and Finland previously hadn't joined NATO because they were afraid of Russias response. They're not afraid any longer

The above is very true. The amount of soft power that Russia has lost is staggering. Little North Korea and Syria are running roughshod over Russia! Ukraine has moved to the west without a single nato soldier dying. Russia has conquered about 20% of Ukraine. But at the cost of millions of soldiers.

Reality check

The highest realistic estimate of dead Russian soldiers is 250 000. Casualties, ie dead and wounded, 400 000.

New Russian tactics now minimise Russian dead while taking territory the fastest they have yet.

What new tactics?

The new Russian tactic that is taking territory faster is simply claiming that dead Russian soldiers are holding the territory. The only thing that has minimized Russian dead is there are less Russians to die.

Do you understand the following sentence:
"Western propaganda is lying to you"
I am not even trying to convince you here, this is merely check of your reading comprehension.
....
....

I live in Russia and can go to local cemetery and literally count dead soldiers there and then extrapolate it to the rest of the country taking into account that people from big cities are reluctant to sign contracts.

 

[barbos]

And as Russia has taught the world, it isn't about the numbers, it's about the will to fight.

German nazis had plenty of will to fight in 1945.
And no, ukrainians don't have much will to fight. Their clown government has a will to keep this money machine running keeping their own children in the west, that's true.

 

[barbos]

“Let me put it bluntly: If the little green men ever cross our border, we will shoot them. Those will be the consequences; there’s no arguing about it. If Russia isn’t sure we’ll actually react, they might test us."
-Estonian Foreign Minister Margus Tsahkna

Let me put it bluntly:
Estonia 1.373mil
Novosibirsk (3rd largest city in Russia) 1.673mil.
Yekaterinburg (4rd largest city in Russia) 1.536mil

Russian Federation population ~150mil soon to be ~170mil

So, Margus Tsahkna, shut the fuck up!

I have no idea what that even means???

It means that this fucking nazi can go to hell. He is a fucking nazi.
Ukrainian cunt which murdered Daria Dugina is hiding in Estonia. If Russia were like US, Estonia would have been in ruins already.

 

[barbos]

LOL, Meloni