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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

I don't think that Russia is serious about peace. I think that they are jerking Trump's chain.
Bloody hell (pardon my british) You are so out of touch with reality.
Nobody is jerking any chains. Nobody in Russia expects anything from any negotiations. They openly admit just going through the motion.
What peace are you talking about when Elensky says he wants everything (including Crimea) back, plus reparations plus $1.5T?
I want that clown and his government dead, period.

Rubio is a fucking liar and is merely placating Trump.

Ukraine has said over and over that they would accept a peace with Russia if Russia were to stop the invasion today. Just stop. But instead Russia has been demanding that Ukraine withdraw from their heavily fortified defensive positions, then withdraw. The issue is that you don't know the geography of Ukraine very well. If the Ukrainians withdraw, they will not have heavily defensible areas to fall back to when the Russian invasion starts again. Just look at a map.
 
If the Ukrainians withdraw, they will not have heavily defensible areas to fall back to when the Russian invasion starts again. Just look at a map.
Here is the fundamental problem with your gang. You are not listening to what Russians (including me) telling you.
And we are tired of that.
 
If the Ukrainians withdraw, they will not have heavily defensible areas to fall back to when the Russian invasion starts again. Just look at a map.
Here is the fundamental problem with your gang. You are not listening to what Russians (including me) telling you.
And we are tired of that.

Putin has said over and over that he wants Ukraine and Eastern Europe. Your side wants peace, once you have conquered all these areas. The fly in the ointment that you don't understand, is that people don't like to be invaded. And Ukraine fought back.
 
The issue is that you don't know the geography of Ukraine very well
LOL, and you do, right

Do you honestly think that Russia wouldn't attack again if Ukraine left itself defenseless?
Yes, I honestly think that.
And I will tell you more. If Ukraine does not do what we want they will be destroyed. And I want that to happen.
Russians are tired of these nazi clowns. Truth is, we were tired of them during USSR. I was tired of them during my service in soviet army.
they were fucking assholes for the most part.
 
If the Ukrainians withdraw, they will not have heavily defensible areas to fall back to when the Russian invasion starts again. Just look at a map.
Here is the fundamental problem with your gang. You are not listening to what Russians (including me) telling you.
And we are tired of that.

Putin has said over and over that he wants Ukraine and Eastern Europe.
He never said such a thing.
Your side wants peace, once you have conquered all these areas. The fly in the ointment that you don't understand, is that people don't like to be invaded. And Ukraine fought back.
No. Again, you are not listening.
 
If the Ukrainians withdraw, they will not have heavily defensible areas to fall back to when the Russian invasion starts again. Just look at a map.
Here is the fundamental problem with your gang. You are not listening to what Russians (including me) telling you.
And we are tired of that.

Putin has said over and over that he wants Ukraine and Eastern Europe. Your side wants peace, once you have conquered all these areas. The fly in the ointment that you don't understand, is that people don't like to be invaded. And Ukraine fought back.
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
*spit take*
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
*spit take*
Spit all you want, but your stupid aggression against Russia ended with you leaving Crimea.
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
*spit take*
Spit all you want, but your stupid aggression against Russia ended with you leaving Crimea.
Go for it. There are more guns in Alaska than people. Hell, I still have a small arsenal in storage up there.
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
*spit take*
Spit all you want, but your stupid aggression against Russia ended with you leaving Crimea.
Go for it. There are more guns in Alaska than people. Hell, I still have a small arsenal in storage up there.
We have 10 drones for each of your gun. Besides, once we take Canada who has no guns you will be isolated and and will not last through winter.
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
*spit take*
Spit all you want, but your stupid aggression against Russia ended with you leaving Crimea.
Go for it. There are more guns in Alaska than people. Hell, I still have a small arsenal in storage up there.
We have 10 drones for each of your gun. Besides, once we take Canada who has no guns you will be isolated and and will not last through winter.
And you will have a smoking crater that was once Moscow. What's the point?
 
Russia erred like they erred in the Ottoman Empire back during the Crimean War. They underestimated the opposition to their military action.
That's a stipid thing for you to say.
We won that war despite you helping turks and occupying (temporarily) Crimea.
The only thing we lost was Alaska. And I agree we need to get it back.
*spit take*
Spit all you want, but your stupid aggression against Russia ended with you leaving Crimea.
Go for it. There are more guns in Alaska than people. Hell, I still have a small arsenal in storage up there.
We have 10 drones for each of your gun. Besides, once we take Canada who has no guns you will be isolated and and will not last through winter.
And you will have a smoking crater that was once Moscow. What's the point?
Are you saying Russia cannot invade EU?
Damn, we had such a great plan - Greenland, France, England, Canada of course.
 
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