Fraud in Minnesomalia

[Emily Lake]

I read Toni’s point is that the fraud is inexcusable but understandable.

Why should ANY large-scale fraud be considered "understandable"?

 

[laughing dog]

I read Toni’s point is that the fraud is inexcusable but understandable.

Why should ANY large-scale fraud be considered "understandable"?

No one said anything about any fraud, so your question seems pointless.

From a fraud prevention standpoint, understanding a fraud may make it easier to prevent.

 

[Toni]

Trump is definitely racist in dredging up the fraud committed several years ago, discovered by Minnesota and given to the FBI years ago as though it were cure t and ongoing

It has been current and ongoing though.

Nope.

So the Nick Shirley fraud expose video is totally without merit? The hell you say,,,

Total bullshit by a YouTuber chasing likes from bad Daddy Trump and fame, etc. he showed up after hours filming closed centers, claiming they were fraudulent. He failed to gain access to day cares that were open because the general public cannot just walk into a daycare center at will and film. Something something about safety of young children, privacy. Not that Trump gives a shot about that nor anyone does who is on his ‘team.’

 

[laughing dog]

Trump is definitely racist in dredging up the fraud committed several years ago, discovered by Minnesota and given to the FBI years ago as though it were cure t and ongoing

It has been current and ongoing though.

Nope.

So the Nick Shirley fraud expose video is totally without merit? The hell you say,,,

Total bullshit by a YouTuber chasing likes from bad Daddy Trump and fame, etc. he showed up after hours filming closed centers, claiming they were fraudulent. He failed to gain access to day cares that were open because the general public cannot just walk into a daycare center at will and film. Something something about safety of young children, privacy. Not that Trump gives a shot about that nor anyone does who is on his ‘team.’

I believe Millrat was being sarcastic.

 

[Toni]

Trump is definitely racist in dredging up the fraud committed several years ago, discovered by Minnesota and given to the FBI years ago as though it were cure t and ongoing

It has been current and ongoing though.

Nope.

So the Nick Shirley fraud expose video is totally without merit? The hell you say,,,

Total bullshit by a YouTuber chasing likes from bad Daddy Trump and fame, etc. he showed up after hours filming closed centers, claiming they were fraudulent. He failed to gain access to day cares that were open because the general public cannot just walk into a daycare center at will and film. Something something about safety of young children, privacy. Not that Trump gives a shot about that nor anyone does who is on his ‘team.’

I believe Millrat was being sarcastic.

Ah, I’m sure you’re right.

Sorry, Millrat!

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Trump team accused of ‘largest fraud’ in immigration history by taking $1 billion in fees from migrants

Recent Trump administration policies have stalled visa and legal status applications for citizens of 92 countries, hitting nations that send half of all legal immigrants to the U.S.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Trump team accused of ‘largest fraud’ in immigration history by taking $1 billion in fees from migrants

The Trump administration is allegedly carrying out a more than $1 billion scam on immigrants, the “largest fraud in the history of the U.S. immigration system,” according to a new analysis.

The Cato Institute study alleges that a combination of Trump administration policies, including freezing visa and status applications for citizens of 92 countries, has resulted in the government collecting more than $1 billion in fees for immigration petitions it never plans to finalize.

In order to charge someone money, you have to provide a good or service. You can't go into a coffee shop, hand them $10 for a latte and then have them keep the money without giving you the latte or a refund.

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump team accused of ‘largest fraud’ in immigration history by taking $1 billion in fees from migrants

Recent Trump administration policies have stalled visa and legal status applications for citizens of 92 countries, hitting nations that send half of all legal immigrants to the U.S.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Trump team accused of ‘largest fraud’ in immigration history by taking $1 billion in fees from migrants

The Trump administration is allegedly carrying out a more than $1 billion scam on immigrants, the “largest fraud in the history of the U.S. immigration system,” according to a new analysis.

The Cato Institute study alleges that a combination of Trump administration policies, including freezing visa and status applications for citizens of 92 countries, has resulted in the government collecting more than $1 billion in fees for immigration petitions it never plans to finalize.

In order to charge someone money, you have to provide a good or service. You can't go into a coffee shop, hand them $10 for a latte and then have them keep the money without giving you the latte or a refund.

I don't believe a stand up guy like Trump would involve himself in such a scheme.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Back of napkin calculation: there are 50 states and Minnesota is average population size, so about 2% of $1B of Trump's fraud happened there. A little more refinement: Minnesota is 1.7% of the population of the US but this is more than $1B total. So, 2% is still a fair approximation. That puts Trump's fraud in Minnesota at about $20M. Is the problem that he hasn't assimilated to our culture or that he is in the thick of it?

 

[laughing dog]

Back of napkin calculation: there are 50 states and Minnesota is average population size, so about 2% of $1B of Trump's fraud happened there. A little more refinement: Minnesota is 1.7% of the population of the US but this is more than $1B total. So, 2% is still a fair approximation. That puts Trump's fraud in Minnesota at about $20M. Is the problem that he hasn't assimilated to our culture or that he is in the thick of it?

Embracing the thick of it!

 

[TSwizzle]

The Midwest mother who masterminded the roughly $250 million Somali-linked fraud in Minnesota was sentenced to more than 41 years in prison on Thursday morning. Aimee Bock, 45, was convicted last March of multiple counts involving conspiracy, wire fraud and bribery for her role in the Feeding Our Future scam, which prosecutors called the country's largest COVID-era fraud.

Daily Mail

That's a pretty heavy sentence.

 

[ZiprHead]

The Midwest mother who masterminded the roughly $250 million Somali-linked fraud in Minnesota was sentenced to more than 41 years in prison on Thursday morning. Aimee Bock, 45, was convicted last March of multiple counts involving conspiracy, wire fraud and bribery for her role in the Feeding Our Future scam, which prosecutors called the country's largest COVID-era fraud.

Daily Mail

That's a pretty heavy sentence.

Why is it a Somali fraud when the ringleader was a white American woman?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

What sentence did Trump get?

 

[ZiprHead]

What sentence did Trump get?

Yup, this is a pale shadow compared to the fraud and criminality coming out of the White House.

 

[TSwizzle]

Ilhan Omar’s day will come soon.

 

[Derec]

What sentence did Trump get?

Why should Trump get any sentence in a criminal scheme he is not even alleged to have been involved in?

In other words, not everything is about Trump and not every thread should be derailed with TDS whataboutsisms.

 

[Derec]

Why is it a Somali fraud when the ringleader was a white American woman?

Because most of those involved and charged have been Somali.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

What sentence did Trump get?

Why should Trump get any sentence in a criminal scheme he is not even alleged to have been involved in?

I wasn't talking about the white lady and Somalis' scheme.

In other words, not everything is about Trump and not every thread should be derailed with TDS whataboutsisms.

I was talking about Trump's fraud in Minnesota.

 

[Derec]

I wasn't talking about the white lady and Somalis' scheme.

No, you were engaging in tired old "every thread should be about Trump" whataboutisms.

I was talking about Trump's fraud in Minnesota.

If he is engaged in some fraud not connected to the Somali Daycare Scheme, maybe you should start a thread about it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I wasn't talking about the white lady and Somalis' scheme.

No, you were engaging in tired old "every thread should be about Trump" whataboutisms.

I was talking about Trump's fraud in Minnesota.

If he is engaged in some fraud not connected to the Somali Daycare Scheme, maybe you should start a thread about it.

It's relevant because you (or perhaps someone else) claimed that people from Somalia didn't fit into the culture because of their corruption.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

My point is that when you ( generic) point your finger at someone else, four fingers are pointing back at you.

That's a childish pseudo-argument.

This ‘unable to assimilate’ is just bs garbage code for: they are awfully dark.

Nonsense! It does not matter how "dark" they are. But certain cultures are certainly far more incompatible with the West than others, and that affects integration. Note also that this holds in the aggregate, but not for every individual. Somalis like Iman (model and David Bowie's widow) and Ayan Hirsi Ali are very-well integrated for example.

See Derec, right here is where you were talking about compatibility and assimilation!