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And back on topic, I don't know if this link is paywalled. (I hope not. It's from the share button at the Boston Globe.)

ICE is back in Maine to a degree. Calls to the immigrant help line are up 75% all of a sudden.

But what I wanted to post was a statistic from the January operation that they called, in an attempt to belittle immigrants, "Operation Catch of the Day."

You may recall that back in January, the Department of Homeland Security deployed ICE agents in the state for a crackdown they called “Operation Catch of the Day.” At the time, ICE said it arrested more than 200 people in Maine from Jan. 20-24, whom they called “the worst of the worst.”

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But most of those arrested in the January operation did not have a criminal record — in fact, only 5 percent of those detained had criminal convictions, according to an analysis of ICE data conducted by the Bangor Daily News. And dozens of those arrested were asylum seekers with pending asylum applications – whom ICE has been arresting across the country since last year, if they lack other lawful status in the US.


One of the impacts of the Trump administration is that one can never trust what agencies say is actually true. They lie more often than not.
 
ICE doing their job.
How would you know that? Because ICE sez and The Rapist agrees? Employers, citizens and entire vital industries are suffering. I disagree that they’re doing their job. They’re generating an unprecedented human trafficking and imprisonment grift, hurting everyone but Trump’s pals in the torture business.
The missing have no voice.
Trumpsucking tumpassumptions are the simpleminded copout of a weak character.
 
She was deported without her toddler. Then ICE blamed her for his killing.

After U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained his mother, 2-year-old Orlin Hernandez Reyes moved into a shed.

His uncle, Samuel Maldonado Erazo, was charged with taking care of the toddler and his three cousins, the oldest of whom was 7, while Orlin’s mother and her sister waited in ICE detention to be deported to Honduras.

Maldonado had once served in the Honduran military, a co-worker later told investigators, and now lived in the Florida Panhandle. He was separated from Orlin’s aunt, and police said he drank heavily and whipped the children with a wire. Orlin repeatedly endured the worst of the abuse.

An autopsy showed he had multiple broken bones. There were signs his tiny body had been sexually battered. Authorities allege Maldonado repeatedly struck Orlin in the head, stomped on his body and burned his skin with a lighter. His hands bore bruises, a sign that Orlin had tried to shield himself from the blows. The coroner listed his cause of death as multiple blunt force traumas.
Maldonado has been charged with murder and pleaded not guilty.

In a statement a week after Orlin died, acting ICE director Todd M. Lyons berated Orlin’s mother, Wendy Hernandez Reyes, alleging that she had “abandoned” her child to the man who allegedly killed him — an undocumented immigrant who “never should’ve been in this country in the first place,” but was nonetheless allowed to care for the children while Orlin’s mother was in detention.

“Reyes chose to leave her son here with a violent murderer who took his life,” he asserted.
Like the mom had a choice...
 
ICE doing their job. What’s the problem?
Their job is extra-judicial detainment, abuse, and occasional murder? That’s okay?
Clearly, as long as people are working for the government, everything they do is OK. That makes it "official" (unless you're doing stuff like financial aid for the poors. That's bad).
 
But your assumption is false. I do not have the same hang-ups about it as you do. I fully understand and intend the words to mean exactly what they are: an alien who is here illegally. An alien is, in legal terms, any person who is not a us citizen or national. That's what it means, and that's all it means to me - and that's all I intend it to mean.
Except being here without authorization is not actually a crime.
 
It doesn't matter what such folks "intend" to say. What matters is the thing people will hear.

I have a friend who had a hard time talking about a fun park called "digger land" in public, because despite what she would have been intending to say, people would have interpreted it as something offensive, and directed at or around them.

The mere belief someone might have said the word that rhymes with it IS a reason to not say something.
And some of us disagree with that. One bad word should not take out a bunch of similar stuff.

Can the rigger not have a bigger jigger so long as he's not trying to lift the digger? It is the meaning that's the problem, not the set of sounds.
 
Is there something wrong with the following?

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Reality: That's the Washington Examiner. Far, far from neutral.


My guess is that the above omits some facts which would clarify better what happened in these cases. It appears that in both cases the criminal is now in custody and faces prosecution, so the system does work at least partly, to catch the "worst of the worst" criminals, though it appears superficially that there's a bias toward releasing criminals if they're immigrants. Or rather, there is some mishandling of some such cases. Maybe very few such cases, and yet these get exaggerated into something sensationalist, to feed the populist frenzy to find villains somewhere to beat up on.
No, there is no such bias. The reality is the Republicans love to claim to be tough on crime--but it's always about throwing heavy sentences regardless of circumstances, but not actually providing the means of doing so. Criminals get released because the system is overloaded--they keep complaining about weak prosecutors but the capacity simply doesn't exist.
How typical are these cases of leniency to violent criminals? There's an impression that there are probably hundreds or even thousands of such cases (immigrants committing violent crimes) happening right now, and many of these criminals let back out onto the streets and likely to strike again, and that the crime rate is higher because of this -- all due to this bias in some states/cities to release violent criminal suspects if they are immigrants.
It is very much not representative. It's pretty clear this administration asked an AI for a list of non-citizen criminals--and got back the usual AI slop. Anyone ever named in a criminal complaint, even if only as a witness. Anyone with any sort of paperwork issue, regardless of fault. I have been an "overstay" in Romania (back in Iron Curtain days) because their official wrote down the wrong number. But, despite being a police state they were sane about it, my mother and the official ended up communicating in very broken German and he realized we had done no wrong. Would that matter to the current administration? Probably not. And something happened that caused my wife to get a notice to appear for a deportation hearing at [to be scheduled]. It was never scheduled so we did not find out what triggered it--at the time she was adjusting her status to permanent resident and something must have glitched. Again, would this administration care? I don't think it will become an issue as she's a citizen now--legally it's impossible to deport her as there's nowhere to deport her to (she holds no other citizenship), but I'm not sure that would stop these clowns.

And yet this makes no sense. No prosecutors or law enforcers intentionally want to see violent criminals released because they're immigrants. What possible hidden or ulterior motive could they have? If they want to pander to public demand for something, they'd do everything to get those criminals convicted, or deported, or anything other than just release them back to the streets.
It makes no sense because it isn't happening.

The only part that's actually real is states not notifying the Gestapo about releasing those who do not have legal status. And there's a good reason for this, "sanctuary" cities and states are those who recognize that society functions better if people do not fear contact with law enforcement. Yes, an occasional criminal gets released that should be deported, but the flip side is many other things get handled smoothly. The person without status who can get a driver's license and insurance is better than the person driving uninsured because they can't work with the system. And said person will not consider a traffic stop as dangerous.
What's the real cause of the anti-immigrant hysteria?

I think it can be shown that Democrats/liberals/progressives are more to blame than the immigrant-bashing right-wingers. Though the latter are deluded, yet they do have a reasonable demand for stricter enforcement of the immigration laws, which almost everyone agrees with (i.e., everyone agrees that the law should be better enforced). The difference between the Right and the Left is that the Right is now doing an aggressive full thrust toward enforcement, unlike before when everyone seemed to recognize the economic need for the immigrant labor, which the letter of the law disregarded by demanding unrealistic obstructions to immigrant workers.
No. The problem is the hate. On average, the immigrants are a plus for society. The fact that they were able to come here screens out most who would be a burden for society, they commit fewer crimes (other than status-related things) than citizens, they are less likely to be a welfare burden etc.

The fact that someone will relocate to a foreign land actually says a lot about them. This highly selects for those who can do--they are confident enough of themselves to be willing to isolate themselves from the support they had in their own society. Everywhere you look immigrants average better than locals, and any place with heavy emigration suffers from their loss. Doesn't even have to be foreign lands, you see the same forces at work in the inner cities (we say "white flight" but it's not--it's the ones that see the problem early and get out), we see it at work in rural America.
There is hysteria and hate by both the Left and Right. The Left has deliberately left in place very restrictive immigration barriers (employment barriers), and when these barriers are circumvented (out of economic necessity), they unleash their hate against the employers as the villain, because the Left has a basic hate for employers, or rather, those employers who pay competitive wages rather than artificially-high wages demanded by labor unions.
The left is much more liberal about employment than the right.

And you're missing the fact that under-the-table workers get mistreated. I'm thinking of the place that she used to stop by occasionally to buy duck feet. During Covid it vanished--but later I find out it wasn't done in by Covid, but because the owner hadn't been paying the employment taxes and worker's compensation for those working under the table. He owed the state millions.
Left-wing talk-show host Thom Hartmann repeatedly blames employers as guilty and imagines that crackdowns on them would solve most of the illegal immigration problem. Heavy fines and even imprisonment of callous employers -- it's always some dirty capitalist who is to blame for whatever is wrong. And he blames Reagan for having changed federal policy of enforcing the law to punish the employers. But this too would be just another artificial interference with the market, which left to itself responds efficiently to the consumer demand, and that demand can best be satisfied with increased immigrant labor, not a crackdown on employers, which hurts everyone. Equal enforcement of the labor laws for domestic or immigrant labor is reasonable, but not interference with the competition from immigration. More competition is always better.
I don't listen to talk shows. But this is a very simplistic solution. The reality is that most of them are working on forged paperwork. The employer might suspect but if they act on suspicion that means that legal immigrants become pretty much unemployable. And we lack adequate means of verification--a crackdown on forged paperwork will end up with them working on stolen identities rather than being driven out. Under-the-table, yes, go after the employers. Otherwise, solve identity theft first. And there is a lot of opposition from the left about H1-B visas--because while in theory they are only supposed to be hired if they can't find a citizen and are to be paid competitively that is very far from reality.

Personally, I'd scrap the current labor approach completely. Instead, it becomes legal to hire non-residents so long as the unemployment in the field is below some threshold and the unemployment in the area is below some threshold. And employers have to pay say a 10% tax on hiring them.
 
One bad word should not take out a bunch of similar stuff.
That is, unfortunately, how it works.

Otherwise, solve identity theft first.
I expect that they will.

I have the unfortunate privilege of having read the Left Behind series. I've talked about this several times now, and there is a very Trumpy solution to this: a two-part combination loyalty pledge mark/ID tattooed right on the skin.

And as a bonus, they could have well controlled points of validation: get the pledge and mark and we know you aren't an undesirable, to boot!

They did this AFTER they decided that it was a capital offense to be against the regime, so they had the guillotines all ready to go for all the opt-outs.

I would say that this shouldn't have to be taken seriously or worried about. I would absolutely want that to be true, and yet the people who made those novels exist in the first place and popularized them and built publishing houses and bookstores and had the means to do so are the likes of Peter Thiel, who has empowered and backed the Trump admin in a stunning recreation of an unfortunate number of the plot points in that trash.

So, I'm going to really hope that it doesn't happen, while making every attempt to make the people I care about aware of the things that mean it os starting to happening and maybe some ideas about what they can do about it or how to prevent the happening of it, but literal buy-a-presidency-and-court billionaires are really interested in seeing this unholy passion play unfold.

And part of it is exactly "solving" identity theft.

*There are much better ways to solve identity theft that don't involve genocidal surveillance state bullshit, but those were rejected decades ago, ironically enough by those paranoid a national ID would be too much like what will happen with those same people's enthusiastic support.
 
In this case, here are two issues:

(1) So far as Abdul Jalloh, the prosecutor's big boss, Descano, claims his office contacted the victims but they refused to testify which led to prosecutorial cases crumbling. Follow-up coverage investigated and found most were not subpoenaed and so one might conclude that Descano contacted them, they did not consent to testify and then he not knowing what they might say or assenting to their choice, failed to force them to testify.
Thanks. I only looked as far as seeing the sidebar on the Washington Examiner, I knew it was junk.

Note that this is normal--prosecutors will generally not prosecute if victims don't want to testify.
Secondly, in order to say that these people are being treated differently you'd have to show some statistics of A versus B. I think having him out in society is pretty shitty job by the system, but it is perhaps just as bad when measuring how often bad non-immigrants are let out as well. These are anecdotes meant to scare people into thinking there is a pro-immigrant-criminal bias that goes all the way to the governor so the fascists can boot her. It's like when they accused Bill Clinton of being a communist.
Yeah, no comparison = nothing.
 
Why should we have to put up with you using deliberately racist and inflammatory terms without calling it out?
Your inability to consider race unimportant in how you evaluate and interact with people does not make me racist, nor does it make legal terms magically transform into racist slurs.

Your name calling and attempts to shame me into kowtowing to your own biases isn't going to make me pretend that an accurate legal term which does not in any fashion involve or reference race can only be used in a racist way.

YOU hear the phrase and YOU think about race - YOU have an implicit bias that it means race. That's what YOU think.

It's not what I think. Your implicit beliefs are not my beliefs.
I knew exactly what my father meant when he used the n word. Without it being explained to me.

He saw nothing wrong with his word choice, either.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Using a legal term for a non-citizen who is in the country without authorization is just as bad as the n-word now?
We are avoiding a word that often isn't true.

Being in the US without proper approval is not a crime. The only ones that are actually illegal are those who were deported and given a ban against future entry. Violating the ban is illegal, presence per se is not.

And it used to be that it was entirely legal to walk across the border and report to the officials as soon as practical. That's still how it happens with boats--a boat that is not prohibited entry to the US may enter without any procedures, but it must proceed (to the extent that it can--a sailboat isn't required to defy the wind) to a port of entry and may not stop elsewhere first (again, to the extent that it can--it's not prohibited from seeking shelter from a storm in a port etc.)

(And it used to be that way with Canada, also. The Pacific Crest Trail crosses into Canada--the crossing point is in the wilderness with no border post. These days you're not allowed to walk across that point in either direction.)
 
ICE doing their job. What’s the problem?
You think that targeting Maine is them "doing their job"?

It's a vindictive fucking farce.

Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama are all states with far, far more illegal immigrants than Maine. Peculiar. I wonder what all those states have in common.

But hey, murdering citizens in Minnesota in full public view in the fucking street makes it all worthwhile.
 

Being in the US without proper approval is not a crime. The only ones that are actually illegal are those who were deported and given a ban against future entry. Violating the ban is illegal, presence per se is not.

And it used to be that it was entirely legal to walk across the border and report to the officials as soon as practical. That's still how it happens with boats--a boat that is not prohibited entry to the US may enter without any procedures, but it must proceed (to the extent that it can--a sailboat isn't required to defy the wind) to a port of entry and may not stop elsewhere first (again, to the extent that it can--it's not prohibited from seeking shelter from a storm in a port etc.)

(And it used to be that way with Canada, also. The Pacific Crest Trail crosses into Canada--the crossing point is in the wilderness with no border post. These days you're not allowed to walk across that point in either direction.)
From a ten second Google search:

1. Simple Unlawful Presence (Civil Violation)
If a foreign national legally enters the U.S. on a valid visa but stays after it expires, or if they are in the country without legal authorization (but did not bypass border inspection), this is a civil infraction. It is not a criminal charge. The consequence is removal or deportation by federal authorities, not incarceration. [1, 2]

2. Unlawful Entry (Criminal Misdemeanor/Felony)
If a person physically enters the U.S. without being properly inspected by an immigration officer (e.g., crossing a border without authorization), it is a federal crime. [1, 2]
  • First Offense: Under 8 U.S.C. § 1325, improper entry is classified as a misdemeanor, which can carry a fine and up to six months in prison.
  • Subsequent Offenses: Multiple improper entries can be prosecuted as felonies. [1, 2]

3. Unlawful Reentry (Criminal Felony)
If a person has previously been formally deported or removed from the U.S. and then returns without explicit legal permission, it is a federal felony under 8 U.S.C. § 1326. This can result in significant federal prison time.

Clearly, being here without government approval carries with both civil and criminal violations.

The way the Trump administration is going about this is horribly wrong, but even the civil misdemeanor statute(s) that existed long before him provide for deportation.
 
ICE doing their job. What’s the problem?
You think that targeting Maine is them "doing their job"?

ICE is still doing its job even if you do feel it is "targeting" Maine. I believe most ICE activity is targeted. Why do you think Maine should be exempt.

It's a vindictive fucking farce.

Is it?
Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama are all states with far, far more illegal immigrants than Maine. Peculiar. I wonder what all those states have in common.

You want more ICE raids? You are in favor of more illegals being deported?
But hey, murdering citizens in Minnesota in full public view in the fucking street makes it all worthwhile.

We've already been through this.
 
ICE doing their job. What’s the problem?
You think that targeting Maine is them "doing their job"?

It's a vindictive fucking farce.

Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama are all states with far, far more illegal immigrants than Maine. Peculiar. I wonder what all those states have in common.

But hey, murdering citizens in Minnesota in full public view in the fucking street makes it all worthwhile.
Exactly was it was and still is in Minnesota.
 
Anyway, ICE is cleaning up the mess that Brandon and the democrats created.
1) The Gestapo is making more mess than they are solving. You see criminals under every bush, they weren't there. So you're grabbing everyone flagged by AI slop that doesn't even know the difference between the accused and a witness or victim.

2) The Republicans explicitly refused to allowed the Democrats to do anything. To the extent there is a problem it is of Republican origin.
 
ICE in Minnesota arrested several Native Americans —and continued to hold them illegally in an attempt to force NA tribes to allow access to reservation land. Native Americans elsewhere in the US have been arrested with their tribal IDs confiscated or torn up, ICE insisting they were fake.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened” for $500, Alex.
Dead wrong as usual.
 
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