Lesbian Bishop

[SLD]

Sarah Fisher installed as first openly lesbian Episcopal bishop in the South

The Rev Sarah Fisher has been installed as bishop of an Episcopal Church diocese, reportedly becoming the first woman in a same-sex relationship to be elevated to that position in the southern United

www.christianpost.com

So the fundy's on facebook are going apeshit over this one. It's like the creator of the universe, all worlds, stars, billions of galaxies, is obsessed with what people do to get their jollies off. I mean doesn't he have more important shit to do? Like stopping a Klingon invasion? Preventing a black hole from gobbling up an entire galaxy? Nannh. He's upset because someone's eating pussy. Sheeesh.

Here's the facebook post for follow Jesus: https://www.facebook.com/FollowJesus153

You can see their posting and the comments on it are fucking hilarious.

 

[laughing dog]

What would Jesus say?

 

[SLD]

What would Jesus say?

A first century judean from galillee probably would not approve of women having lesbian sex with each other, but he'd be hard pressed to find it in the old testament so he may in the end have to admit that's it's not prohibited.

 

[steve_bank]

Jesus is probably rolling over inn his grave, oh wait he rose from rte dead and walked out of his tomb.

As I like to say on Christianity and gay Christians, I don't care. Christianity is all nonsense to begin with. Gay or straight.

Given what the bible says I don't see how one can be Christian and gay, but that is a personal choice for gays.

It is like a conservative republican promoting socialism or communism.

 

[ideologyhunter]

This encourages me. I have it on my bucket list to be the first atheist Pope. I'm gonna drag that church into materialist reality and make 'em like it.

 

[Tigers!]

What would Jesus say?

Go and sin no more?

 

[Politesse]

Sarah Fisher installed as first openly lesbian Episcopal bishop in the South

The Rev Sarah Fisher has been installed as bishop of an Episcopal Church diocese, reportedly becoming the first woman in a same-sex relationship to be elevated to that position in the southern United

www.christianpost.com

So the fundy's on facebook are going apeshit over this one. It's like the creator of the universe, all worlds, stars, billions of galaxies, is obsessed with what people do to get their jollies off. I mean doesn't he have more important shit to do? Like stopping a Klingon invasion? Preventing a black hole from gobbling up an entire galaxy? Nannh. He's upset because someone's eating pussy. Sheeesh.

Here's the facebook post for follow Jesus: https://www.facebook.com/FollowJesus153

You can see their posting and the comments on it are fucking hilarious.

In today's upside-down world, all the ancient, traditional denominations of the church are declared to be "going woke" while American innovations like Mormonism and Evangelicalism reward tgemselves the label "conservative" (while they worship a human egotist and declaim the Beatitudes as naive).

 

[SLD]

Sarah Fisher installed as first openly lesbian Episcopal bishop in the South

The Rev Sarah Fisher has been installed as bishop of an Episcopal Church diocese, reportedly becoming the first woman in a same-sex relationship to be elevated to that position in the southern United

www.christianpost.com

So the fundy's on facebook are going apeshit over this one. It's like the creator of the universe, all worlds, stars, billions of galaxies, is obsessed with what people do to get their jollies off. I mean doesn't he have more important shit to do? Like stopping a Klingon invasion? Preventing a black hole from gobbling up an entire galaxy? Nannh. He's upset because someone's eating pussy. Sheeesh.

Here's the facebook post for follow Jesus: https://www.facebook.com/FollowJesus153

You can see their posting and the comments on it are fucking hilarious.

In today's upside-down world, all the ancient, traditional denominations of the church are declared to be "going woke" while American innovations like Mormonism and Evangelicalism reward tgemselves the label "conservative" (while they worship a human egotist and declaim the Beatitudes as naive).

You would enjoy the comments on the facebook page.

 

[Jarhyn]

What would Jesus say?

"If the sex ain't risking makin' babies, it's none of your business".

Or so Matthew 19:12 leads me to believe.

 

[Learner]

What would Jesus say?

A first century judean from galillee probably would not approve of women having lesbian sex with each other, but he'd be hard pressed to find it in the old testament so he may in the end have to admit that's it's not prohibited.

If the degree of the sexual act is in that area of lust, then it's mentioned in the OT. That also includes males with males,even heterosexuals.

Some Christians believe Eve's sin was of a sexual nature - interestingly, not a sin that starts with Adam (then who and Eve?). Anyway... fruit of a particular sort is described in a song.

Song of Solomon 2:3 – “Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest is my beloved among the young men. I delight to sit in his shade, and his fruit is sweet to my taste.”

This could fit the scene when Adam and Eve felt the embarrassment standing in front of God...hence they needed to cover themselves with fig leaves to hide their feelings of shame.

...the world has been sexually charged from the very beginning, and look at the world now! Throughout mans existence... people would kill for it, bribe or blackmail with it, be enticed and trapped by it... ruining people's lives from the depravities at the most extreme, seriously harming adults and children etc. & etc.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

...the world has been religiously charged from the very beginning, and look at the world now! Throughout mans existence... people would kill for it, bribe or blackmail with it, be enticed and trapped by it... ruining people's lives from the depravities at the most extreme, seriously harming adults and children etc. & etc.

One could substitute many words there, for example, the above. Ultimately, people use things for good or for evil, like religion or sex. Lesbian sex in and of itself isn't evil. Neither is sex between men. People have used religion as an excuse to kill the first borns of neighbor populations and then claim goddidit, even celebrate it. And others use religion to commit to charity and humility. Neither lesbian sex nor religion are necessary for good or evil. It's people who decide how to use them.

 

[Learner]

...the world has been religiously charged from the very beginning, and look at the world now! Throughout mans existence... people would kill for it, bribe or blackmail with it, be enticed and trapped by it... ruining people's lives from the depravities at the most extreme, seriously harming adults and children etc. & etc.

One could substitute many words there, for example, the above. Ultimately, people use things for good or for evil, like religion or sex. Lesbian sex in and of itself isn't evil. Neither is sex between men. People have used religion as an excuse to kill the first borns of neighbor populations and then claim goddidit, even celebrate it. And others use religion to commit to charity and humility. Neither lesbian sex nor religion are necessary for good or evil. It's people who decide how to use them.

You could substitute many words...
...however,quite simply... ..adding your word substitutes has been introduced somewhat rather late in the game so to speak. If it ain't in the early scriptures, which would be noticeable like your example which you put the word religiously in bold. You would need to go further and change every relating verse in the same manner to be contextual. For this particular idea. IOW.. it would be too obvious a fake text.

I DO get your 'point of view' though... that doesn't need the flawed notion of changing words willy-nilly

 

[steve_bank]

Learner

Does the sight of an erect penis frighten you? Is the public display of an erect penis an offense against god?

Do you avert your eyes in horror at the sight of a naked vagina or female breasts? A female nursing a baby in public? A horrific immoral sight is it not? A woman in public breast feeding a baby.

Do you object to lesbians because it fundamentally offends you in some way, or is it just because of a scripture written by a tribal society over 2000 years ago?

Historical records show homosexuality goes far back in human history. I believe Native Americans had homosexuals.

The late Bob Dole a republican from Kansas said if homosexuality has a natural origin then tye shud not be suppressed. I forget the exact words. Enlightened for a Christian republican of his generation.

If homosexuality is natural why suppress it?

 

[southernhybrid]

This reminds me of something that happened at the huge Methodist Church on the corner of my street. A nice women I met at the Dem meetups told me that the church hired an openly gay choir director and half of the members left the church, while the other have remained. I once had a friendly acquaintance who was a member of that church and when I told her I was an atheist, she said' Cool, so is one of my sons". While I don't need mythology in my life, at least there are some good people who do. That church does lots of charity work, like their good book tells them to and I don't recall reading anything in the NT that said being gay was wrong. Besides their Jesus is supposed to be very loving and forgiving.

I did read some of the FB comments. I had to laugh at all the ones that said Jesus was returning soon. We've only heard that for over 2000 years. Plus didn't he say, "Surely I come quickly"? Then again, being on the young side, perhaps he was talking about having an orgasm.

 

[Learner]

Learner

Does the sight of an erect penis frighten you? Is the public display of an erect penis an offense against god?

Think what you are suggesting here Monsieur. In public?

I think we will all pretty much agree that having an erect penis in public would be offensive to us:

The strange phenomenon That non-acceptable boundaries will all of a sudden materialize when you happen to be walking down the street with your child, whereby that instinctive action of you hands, in a flash, is covering your childs eyes!

Do you avert your eyes in horror at the sight of a naked vagina or female breasts? A female nursing a baby in public? A horrific immoral sight is it not? A woman in public breast feeding a baby.

Um no...it doesn't affect me. Wrong question:

You should ponder instead on the provocative portrayal of images of the human body on...who it does affect in a negative way! Meaning people out there who can't control their extreme urges, that so much so. they will act on them seriously harming both adults or children or even themselves.

Do you object to lesbians because it fundamentally offends you in some way, or is it just because of a scripture written by a tribal society over 2000 years ago?

The scripture is talking about the harmful perspective of harmful lust. In those terms 2000 years ago the "society" was quite right!

Historical records show homosexuality goes far back in human history. I believe Native Americans had homosexuals.

The erogenous zones were known way back from the beginning (Adam and Eve). The bible described this loooong ago. How it affects a variety of individuals who act on them, varies. That should be the crucial bit for your curiosity.

The late Bob Dole a republican from Kansas said if homosexuality has a natural origin then tye shud not be suppressed. I forget the exact words. Enlightened for a Christian republican of his generation.

If homosexuality is natural why suppress it?

Sex...as you (plural) keep emphasizing on...in a manner of speaking, is not everything ! But it is to you.

The sexuality aspect is not valuable as, say: loving your neighbour as yourself etc & etc.. These are totally different human aspects from each other. That's the context I'm getting at (for lack of decent vocabulary).

 

[steve_bank]

Learner

I will rephrase, does the image of an erect penis trouble you in any way? A vagina? Women;s bare breasts?

To me from a science view nothing in nature is binary in a broad sense. There is always variation.

For us humans hair color, ears, body types, skin color, height, teeth, eyes, mouth, nose all have variation

Hetero females can have masculine voices, hetero males can have female quality voices.

Is it so srrange and unbelievable that sexuality also has variations?

Are lesbians statistically more dangerous to society that hetero women?

Public nudity is generally legal in Seattle, but it is heavily regulated by intent and location. Nudity alone is not a crime, but you can be arrested or fined if your actions intentionally cause a "reasonable affront or alarm," or cross into indecent exposure or lewd conduct.

You say lesbianism is 'lust'. How do you know that? So as I asked is it just bcau8se of something written thousands of years ago by a superstitious tribal couture allegedly ordained by god, or is it a reasoned decision to oppose lesbianism on factuall grounds?

Nakedness doe not get a and kind of rise out of me. Back in the 70s I shared an apartment with two brothers. Or girlfriends were fiends and students at the Hartford Ballet company.

We did not walk around naked, but seeing and being seen naked is no big deal once you get over the novelty

Some of my girlfriends friends were gay. I got to know the stage manager of the company, he was gay. When passing through his neighborhood I'd stop in and say hello.

I think thousands of years of Christianity has warped and twisted human sexuality.


The worse of it is the RCC with sexless presuming to dictate sexuality to the world in the name of a god.

Oh god help m,e!! I was walking down the street and saw a woman and I had thoughts of sex!!! Please god don't let my penis get hard!!

 

[Politesse]

What would Jesus say?

A first century judean from galillee probably would not approve of women having lesbian sex with each other, but he'd be hard pressed to find it in the old testament so he may in the end have to admit that's it's not prohibited.

He would also disapprove of bishops, churches, and social media outrage.

 

[ideologyhunter]

What would Jesus say?

A first century judean from galillee probably would not approve of women having lesbian sex with each other, but he'd be hard pressed to find it in the old testament so he may in the end have to admit that's it's not prohibited.

He would also disapprove of bishops, churches, and social media outrage.

Also fig trees in general, the Pledge of Allegiance (and other oaths), the National Prayer Breakfast (and other fart-worthy public displays of piety),
Mariology, and ministers who own their own jets. Not sure he'd be thrilled to see crosses hanging around people's necks or over car dashboards.

 

[Politesse]

. Not sure he'd be thrilled to see crosses hanging around people's necks or over car dashboards.

"Is that supposed to be some sort of... threat?"

 

[steve_bank]

Actually it would be a Saint Christoper medallion hanging over the car dashboard, he is the patrol saint of travelers.

One needs to invoke the proper saint in order to get the benefit and protection. There are thousands of them.

How many saints are there?

The precise number of Catholic saints is debatable, but revisions to the canonization process ensured we will see more saints in the future.

uscatholic.org

These 802 men and women will join the more than 10,000 saints the Catholic Church already venerate

If you like mythology and rituals and dead mystical saints with supernatural powers to intervene with humans then the Catholic church is for you.

Kind of like dead Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars.