How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

No one takes Russian threats of "really" kicking Ukraine's ass. Russia has done their worst and came up short.

cool, why then euro-monkeys are peddling Russia invading EU theory?
I actually agree, Russia did worst by not going after ukro-regime people.

There's no sense in regretting not doing something that was never possible.

cool, why then euro-monkeys are peddling Russia invading EU theory?

 

[Bronzeage]

No one takes Russian threats of "really" kicking Ukraine's ass. Russia has done their worst and came up short.

cool, why then euro-monkeys are peddling Russia invading EU theory?
I actually agree, Russia did worst by not going after ukro-regime people.

There's no sense in regretting not doing something that was never possible.

cool, why then euro-monkeys are peddling Russia invading EU theory?

Well duh. So they can justify more military aid to Ukraine. Acting belligerent toward Europe just strengthens Ukraine, but Russia has never had a workable long range plan, so it's no surprise to see them fuck up again.

Russia can't launch any kind of military invasion because they have spent everything on the last one.

 

[ZiprHead]

No one takes Russian threats of "really" kicking Ukraine's ass. Russia has done their worst and came up short.

cool, why then euro-monkeys are peddling Russia invading EU theory?
I actually agree, Russia did worst by not going after ukro-regime people.

There's no sense in regretting not doing something that was never possible.

cool, why then euro-monkeys are peddling Russia invading EU theory?

Because Russian officials have talked about doing exactly that.

 

[Elixir]

Russian officials have talked about doing exactly that.

Yeah, not because fucking Russians have been doing EXACTLY that every chance they have gotten since time immemorial.

 

[TV and credit cards]

More signs of Russian desperation.

Russian drone strikes Galati Romania as Putin tries to draw NATO into their war.

Russian spies become more aggressive as Russia tries to figure out howstuffworks

Russia schemes to bus in tens of thousands of Russian-Armenians into Armenia with pro-western Nikol Pashinyan heavily favored to win reelection.

 

[ZiprHead]

Russia schemes to bus in tens of thousands of Russian-Armenians into Armenia with pro-western Nikol Pashinyan heavily favored to win reelection.

Sounds like exactly what was done in Ukraine. Sent in Russian Ukrainians. Start a revolt, increase to armed insurgents and separatists. Complain when Ukraine fights back against those armed insurgents and separatists. Then send in the unmarked Russian military (the green army guys). Then start a full on war "to protect the poor Russians living in Ukraine."

 

[TV and credit cards]

Russia schemes to bus in tens of thousands of Russian-Armenians into Armenia with pro-western Nikol Pashinyan heavily favored to win reelection.

Sounds like exactly what was done in Ukraine. Sent in Russian Ukrainians. Start a revolt, increase to armed insurgents and separatists. Complain when Ukraine fights back against those armed insurgents and separatists. Then send in the unmarked Russian military (the green army guys). Then start a full on war "to protect the poor Russians living in Ukraine."

Downloading the survey here, it looks like Pashinyan is a shoo-in but scrolling down to page 17 and 18, there is much discontentment among younger voters so even with a Pashinyan win, the Kremlin can still try to exploit this.

 

[Bronzeage]

Russian officials have talked about doing exactly that.

Yeah, not because fucking Russians have been doing EXACTLY that every chance they have gotten since time immemorial.

Putin wants Europe to feel threatened so they will keep their weaponry close at hand instead of sending it to Ukraine.
This only works as a vague threat, but once Putin starts actually preparing to cross a NATO border, either with boots or missiles, the smart response is to push the Russian circumstances in Donbas and Crimea to past desperate. It won't do Putin much good to capture Estonia when the world is looking at 10,000 Russian POWs standing around in a barbed wire stockade. Putin's Ukraine strategy has been based on poorly considered assumptions from the start. Assuming NATO will not respond with full force and fury, including the US, would be an even more poorly considered assumption.

Even as a vague threat, it rings very hollow. The only viable asset Putin has to spare is foot soldiers. There isn't going to be an armored spearhead. The steady degradation of Russian air defenses means any troop build up along the border would become a slaughter house after the first shot is fired.

Putin is still the guy lying on the bar room floor talking about what he's going to do when he stands up.

 

[barbos]

Well duh. So they can justify more military aid to Ukraine.

So you admit that they are lying.

 

[barbos]

More signs of Russian desperation.

Russian drone strikes Galati Romania as Putin tries to draw NATO into their war.

Why would we and not Ukraine do that? explain it to me.
Chances are that was an ukrainian drone, like multiple previous cases.

Russian spies become more aggressive as Russia tries to figure out howstuffworks

Russia schemes to bus in tens of thousands of Russian-Armenians into Armenia with pro-western Nikol Pashinyan heavily favored to win reelection.

Why the fuck not? they are citizens of Armenia, after all.
You banned russian-molodovans to vote in Moldova, remember that?

 

[barbos]

Putin wants Europe to feel threatened so they will keep their weaponry close at hand instead of sending it to Ukraine.

EU does not have any (conventional) weaponry. US has a little but they are not selling them to EU nazis in order to give it to NarcoFuhter in Kiev. US needs them in Iran.

 

[barbos]

Russian officials have talked about doing exactly that.

Yeah, not because fucking Russians have been doing EXACTLY that every chance they have gotten since time immemorial.

Putin wants Europe to feel threatened so they will keep their weaponry close at hand instead of sending it to Ukraine.
This only works as a vague threat, but once Putin starts actually preparing to cross a NATO border, either with boots or missiles, the smart response is to push the Russian circumstances in Donbas and Crimea to past desperate. It won't do Putin much good to capture Estonia when the world is looking at 10,000 Russian POWs standing around in a barbed wire stockade. Putin's Ukraine strategy has been based on poorly considered assumptions from the start. Assuming NATO will not respond with full force and fury, including the US, would be an even more poorly considered assumption.

Even as a vague threat, it rings very hollow. The only viable asset Putin has to spare is foot soldiers. There isn't going to be an armored spearhead. The steady degradation of Russian air defenses means any troop build up along the border would become a slaughter house after the first shot is fired.

Putin is still the guy lying on the bar room floor talking about what he's going to do when he stands up.

Some fine bullshit. Russia is out of Air Defense, and yet it is Elensky who is begging Trump for Patriot missiles and. Of course if we to believe you Russia had run out of missiles in May 2024.

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile in real news which do not get reported to western cretins is another Nazi scandal in Poland-Kiev relations. Elensky took part in moving remnants of WW2 ukro-nazi to another grave and Poland is predictably unhappy. Some express threats to stop transit or NATO weapons to attack Russia.
Valensa is not happy too.

 

[bilby]

EU does not have any (conventional) weaponry.

EU member states have plenty of conventional weaponry. They also manufacture it for their own use, and for export.

Your claim here is absurd. Not only is it laughably wrong, but also easy to disprove.

 

[Bronzeage]

Russian officials have talked about doing exactly that.

Yeah, not because fucking Russians have been doing EXACTLY that every chance they have gotten since time immemorial.

Putin wants Europe to feel threatened so they will keep their weaponry close at hand instead of sending it to Ukraine.
This only works as a vague threat, but once Putin starts actually preparing to cross a NATO border, either with boots or missiles, the smart response is to push the Russian circumstances in Donbas and Crimea to past desperate. It won't do Putin much good to capture Estonia when the world is looking at 10,000 Russian POWs standing around in a barbed wire stockade. Putin's Ukraine strategy has been based on poorly considered assumptions from the start. Assuming NATO will not respond with full force and fury, including the US, would be an even more poorly considered assumption.

Even as a vague threat, it rings very hollow. The only viable asset Putin has to spare is foot soldiers. There isn't going to be an armored spearhead. The steady degradation of Russian air defenses means any troop build up along the border would become a slaughter house after the first shot is fired.

Putin is still the guy lying on the bar room floor talking about what he's going to do when he stands up.

Some fine bullshit. Russia is out of Air Defense, and yet it is Elensky who is begging Trump for Patriot missiles and. Of course if we to believe you Russia had run out of missiles in May 2024.

Okay, you are making it very difficult to keep my personal pledge to point out the falsehoods and contradions that you have to post. There is a different between offensive missiles and air defense assets. Russia can no longer defend critical targets from Ukrainian drones and missiles. Why Russia thinks bombing apartment buildings and grocery stores will give them an advantage is a mystery, but Russia hasn't done much right from the beginning. It would be nice if Ukraine could stop all the drones and missiles fired at their cities, but they don't have to. Every missile that hits a daycare is a missile that didn't kill a single Ukrainian soldier, or destroy any military asset. Wasting missiles on civilian targets just makes the Russian army weaker.

Your position as a paid propagandist puts you in a position to know how badly the war is going for your nation. It must be very hard for you, but it probably won't last much longer.

 

[barbos]

Okay, you are making it very difficult to keep my personal pledge to point out the falsehoods and contradions that you have to post. There is a different between offensive missiles and air defense assets

Fuck! I merely pointed out your past bullshits.

Russia can no longer defend critical targets from Ukrainian drones and missiles

Says who?! The same people who claimed that Russia had run out of "offensive" missiles in March of 2024?

95% of ukrainian drones do not reach their intended targets.
In fact, the reason why assholes started to hit distant target is because targets that are close to the border are well protected. Do you fucking understand this? It is Ukraine who is running out of easy targets.
And distant targets require more fuel to reach and hence less explosive payload.
Success of ukrainian regime are mostly fiction designed to keep degenerates going in this proxy war until something happens.

 

[barbos]

EU does not have any (conventional) weaponry.

EU member states have plenty of conventional weaponry. They also manufacture it for their own use, and for export.

Then send it to Ukraine, why are you trying to buy american shit?
Fact is, Ukraine needs air defense and human meat and the West has none to give.

Your claim here is absurd. Not only is it laughably wrong, but also easy to disprove.

You are projecting

 

[barbos]

Everything that you are spewing here is propaganda and lies.
Again, designed to keep western public supportimg this aggression against Russia.

 

[bilby]

EU does not have any (conventional) weaponry.

EU member states have plenty of conventional weaponry. They also manufacture it for their own use, and for export.

Then send it to Ukraine, why are you trying to buy american shit?

It is being sent to Ukraine. Nearly 400 Leopard tanks have already been sent to Ukraine. They were built in Germany and donated by various EU nations. For just one example.

Fact is, Ukraine needs air defense and human meat and the West has none to give.

Fact is Ukraine only needs air defences in the unlikely event that Russia learns how to hit military targets. And unlike Russia civilised nations don't waste lives of "human meat".

Your claim here is absurd. Not only is it laughably wrong, but also easy to disprove.

You are projecting

Nope.

 

[barbos]

It is being sent to Ukraine. Nearly 400 Leopard tanks have already been sent to Ukraine. They were built in Germany and donated by various EU nations. For just one example.

Ukraine need more. To many russians with showels