How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[TV and credit cards]

This could become significant. I can't imagine Zelensky would bluff.
Zelenskyy issues one-week ultimatum to Lukashenka over drone-guidance equipment

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has issued a one-week ultimatum to Belarus to shut down relay equipment on the border with Ukraine that he claimed was being used to guide Russian drone attacks.

"If he doesn’t do it, we will."

Would Lukashenka comply or just look the other way given his recent conciliatory statements toward Ukraine?

The larger deal here is Lukashenka apologizing to Ukraine today; and backing away a little from Russia.

Lukashenka apologized a few days back.
Lukashenka apologises to Zelensky

Belarus leader Aliaksandr Lukashenka said his country poses no military threat to Ukraine and claimed his earlier statements were only in response to what Lukashenka said were threats from Kyiv to Minsk.
"If (Ukrainian President) Volodymyr Oleksandrovych (Zelenskyy) was offended, I apologise to him for these words," Lukashenka said.
“Perhaps I shouldn’t have said that, given that he is after all at war. Perhaps I shouldn’t have spoken so bluntly about it. But, on the other hand, he must understand that, as we often say: ‘you reap what you sow,'" Lukashenka said.
At the same time, he argued that Zelenskyy should be more careful in his statements and avoid provoking Belarus.
"No military action should be expected from Belarus, and especially from me," Lukashenka said as he called Zelenskyy “young and inexperienced,” and "not a military man”.

Bold - Not so "young and inexperienced" that he's not telling Lukashenka to back his words up with deeds.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Trump would be furious, unless he's finally decided to drop his loser friend Putin, which may very well be.

I still believe that Putin has some explosive kompromat* on Trump. Trump cannot drop Putin.
Tom

*However you spell that...

I find myself unsure on this. It's just The Felon is too stupid to maintain cover. Thus I suspect it might be someone in his inner circle rather than him.

 

[barbos]

Polish president revoked Medal Poland awarded Mr. Bean on crack.
All because Mr. Bean on crack keeps on cosplaying a nazi.

Yea, there is a row right now between the countries. Actually, if you had a better knowledge of their history, you'd know that Ukraine and Poland have a very long and bitter competition against each other. As is the same as most of Europe. But they are all banding together against Russian imperialism.

Wow, just wow. He is lecturing me on Polish history, just wow.
What a fucking clown show.

 

[barbos]

This could become significant. I can't imagine Zelensky would bluff.
Zelenskyy issues one-week ultimatum to Lukashenka over drone-guidance equipment

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has issued a one-week ultimatum to Belarus to shut down relay equipment on the border with Ukraine that he claimed was being used to guide Russian drone attacks.

"If he doesn’t do it, we will."

Would Lukashenka comply or just look the other way given his recent conciliatory statements toward Ukraine?

The larger deal here is Lukashenka apologizing to Ukraine today; and backing away a little from Russia.

You are definetely tone deaf, if you think it was an apology.

 

[barbos]

No, not both sides. We don't go around EU/Canada/South America and give money to america haters.

You are not aware of your government giving money to America-haters. Doesn't mean it's not happening.

I am not aware that you are not a pedophile.....

It certainly used to happen--note how there used to be a bunch of Marxist terror groups around the world, they basically disappeared after your old government collapsed and got out of the business of funding them.

Nope, we never funded Any Marxist groups anywhere. In fact, Soviet Union starting with Stalin himself was strongly opposing them.

You fucking support current regime in Syria, which you installed - Al fucking Queda!

I can assure you that I installed no such thing. I have never even visited Syria.

I think what he's referring to is we have at times aided some of the groups opposed to the old Syria. Didn't last very long, though, because we realized they weren't actually interested in improving Syria. Any good guys in Syria certainly have either gotten out or gotten dead by now.

And you should be credited with that, because you fucking funded bad guys.
Same thing you did in Afghanistan

 

[barbos]

No, I most certainly will complain and did already.
There is difference with literally paying money to people to lie (You)
and supporting people who actually believe what they are doing.

You fucking assholes, claim openly "Democracy blah blah, blah, freedom"
In reality when doors are closed you say "We really want you to cause problems for Russia, here are the money, take it."

Freedom fighters you were supporting in Afghanistan in the 80s and democracy?

Afghanistan? Where we gave money to the groups trying to expel the group you gave money to in order to provide a pretext for invasion?

I have explained to you (with sources) that this is not what happened million times.
I understand that is painful for you to admit that it was actually your beloved president Carter who launched this garbage which resulted in 9-11.

Admittedly, I doubt your received an honest history education.

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[Tigers!]

Where's the Barbonator, Destroyer of Western Propaganda? Too many "fuck yous" or something?

Counting the $100 he gets per post. He will be back provided the RSI lets him.

 

[Patooka]

Where's the Barbonator, Destroyer of Western Propaganda? Too many "fuck yous" or something?

Counting the $100 he gets per post. He will be back provided the RSI lets him.

Look at the post just before yours. I suspect the reason Moscow Bob has been absent the last few days is...um...because of something else.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Meanwhile Ukraine continues to strangle Crimea by hitting radar stations, oil supplies, ports and ferries around the Kerch bridge, both on the Crimea and Krasnodar Krai side. Seems Russia has been using ferries rather then the bridge to get supplies across. They had seven total. Ukraine just hit three.
Ukraine is shutting down the Kerch Strait. If Ukraine can hit the bridge itself, constant drone harassment will preclude carrying out any repairs.

 

[SLD]

A few months old, but an interesting perspective of the conditions in which ordinary Russian soldiers find themselves fighting.

Russia soldiers tell BBC they saw fellow troops in Ukraine war executed on commanders' orders

Four men expose the horror and brutality of conditions in the Ukraine war, with two saying they saw soldiers being shot for refusing orders.

www.bbc.com

Seems like Russians kill more of their own soldiers than Ukrainians. I wonder why some don’t just start fragging these commanders. I sure as hell would.

Another story indicates that even the wounded are being executed since they can’t go forward.

Occupiers order their own wounded to be executed — Air Assault Forces interception

Air assault troops intercepted a conversation of Russian occupiers in which they ordered their own wounded soldiers to be eliminated.

armyinform.com.ua

O of the things that makes me wonder is whether commanders are basically using the cover of the war to simply enrich themselves. Part of the story is that they simply took these people’s bank cards.

 

[Tigers!]

O of the things that makes me wonder is whether commanders are basically using the cover of the war to simply enrich themselves. Part of the story is that they simply took these people’s bank cards.

A mob called fronts.co I have found to be a good source of information that the MSM cannot or will not cover about fighting, now or soon to be. They did a video clip about the corruption from Putin to the front line commanders. It was disturbing viewing.
I need to find it again.

 

[barbos]

A few months old, but an interesting perspective of the conditions in which ordinary Russian soldiers find themselves fighting.

Do you understand concept of lying?

 

[barbos]

Speaking of lying. It was determined that ukro-regime in its recent drone attacks on Moscow used drones armed with ...... extra fuel. Fucking clowns know damn well that damage they cause is pretty inconsequential, but if they load it with fuel, resulting propaganda footage looks much better.

 

[barbos]

Costa is embarassing himself:

 

[Harry Bosch]

Speaking of lying. It was determined that ukro-regime in its recent drone attacks on Moscow used drones armed with ...... extra fuel. Fucking clowns know damn well that damage they cause is pretty inconsequential, but if they load it with fuel, resulting propaganda footage looks much better.

You sure were upset last week regarding the attacks in Russia proper. Damn Ukrainians, they have the nerve to defend themselves from the Orcs!

 

[barbos]

Speaking of lying. It was determined that ukro-regime in its recent drone attacks on Moscow used drones armed with ...... extra fuel. Fucking clowns know damn well that damage they cause is pretty inconsequential, but if they load it with fuel, resulting propaganda footage looks much better.

You sure were upset last week regarding the attacks in Russia proper. Damn Ukrainians, they have the nerve to defend themselves from the Orcs!

You are not making any sense as usual.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Speaking of lying. It was determined that ukro-regime in its recent drone attacks on Moscow used drones armed with ...... extra fuel. Fucking clowns know damn well that damage they cause is pretty inconsequential, but if they load it with fuel, resulting propaganda footage looks much better.

You sure were upset last week regarding the attacks in Russia proper. Damn Ukrainians, they have the nerve to defend themselves from the Orcs!

You are not making any sense as usual.

You want me to find your post? You got pissed and threw a tizzy because a few Russian civilians were killed by a Ukrainian attack on Russian infrastructure. I just found it so ironic since Ukrainians civilians are being killed nearly daily by your side.

 

[barbos]

Speaking of lying. It was determined that ukro-regime in its recent drone attacks on Moscow used drones armed with ...... extra fuel. Fucking clowns know damn well that damage they cause is pretty inconsequential, but if they load it with fuel, resulting propaganda footage looks much better.

You sure were upset last week regarding the attacks in Russia proper. Damn Ukrainians, they have the nerve to defend themselves from the Orcs!

You are not making any sense as usual.

You want me to find your post? You got pissed and threw a tizzy because a few Russian civilians were killed by a Ukrainian attack on Russian infrastructure. I just found it so ironic since Ukrainians civilians are being killed nearly daily by your side.

Nazi regime attacked teacher's college and killed 21 children, mostly girls.
Then they attacked a bus with Belorussian children socker team killing a wife of a trainer.
Now Mr. Bean on crack is threatening Belarus with strikes unless they kick out russian radio link posts.

And no, unlike your scum we don't kill civilians daily. Even during massive drone attacks we conduct the number of people killed which are usually linked to military target anyway are minuscule. Usual numbers is 2-3 people. Ukro-scum target civilians.

 

[barbos]

 

[TV and credit cards]

Ukraine continues to isolate Crimea seemingly at will. The strikes are daily and numerous now. Energy infrastructure, bridges. Betcha Russia will have to make an excuse to leave Crimea to fend for itself in order to concentrate forces in Donbas.
But Ukraine's capabilities grow by the day. Shallow Don smells it now and wants to get in on the win. Lukashenka has a decision to make. Russia is putting economic pressure on Belarus.