Trump to Address Nation Tonight

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FactChecking Trump's Election Security Speech - FactCheck.org

In a July 16 prime-time speech that warned of "shocking vulnerabilities in our election infrastructure," President Donald Trump cast doubt on the country's ability to hold "free and fair elections" but offered no evidence that widespread fraud had occurred.

www.factcheck.org

“The White House promised a bombshell, and they delivered a dud,” David Becker, the executive director and founder of the Center for Election Innovation & Research, a nonpartisan nonprofit, said in a July 17 press conference. “There was absolutely nothing here that was news, nothing here that even calls into question past elections and certainly not the 2020 election.”

Still, Trump distorted the facts on several issues:

• Trump said the documents he released show that China had acquired “220 million U.S. voter files” starting in the 2020 election cycle, and that this had been kept “secret” by U.S. intelligence officials. But state voter files are mostly publicly available, and an April 2020 intelligence assessment said Chinese officials were analyzing state voter rolls.
• The president said released documents revealed that U.S. election infrastructure is “vulnerable,” “easily compromised” and “people within our government knew that.” But one of the documents Trump cited said the election systems, for several reasons, “would be difficult to manipulate on a wide enough scale to alter the election outcome.”
• Trump said the U.S. election system was “dangerously” exposed to “foreign interference.” It has been publicly known for years that other countries have tried to influence elections. Trump focused on China; it was a “minority view” in an intelligence assessment that China had acted to undermine Trump’s reelection in 2020.
• The president’s speech may have suggested to some listeners that a foreign country changed votes in a U.S. election, but Trump never explicitly claimed that. An adviser to the president said after the speech: “The Intelligence Community has zero evidence that someone, that a foreign power flipped a vote in 2020, ’22 or ’24.”
• Trump claimed that a Department of Homeland Security investigation “identified approximately 278,000 noncitizens who are registered to vote in federal elections.” DHS hasn’t explained its methodology, and experts warn the figure is likely highly inaccurate. Past DHS-derived lists have proven unreliable.
• He cited an alleged instance of fraud from 2020 involving fake voter-registration applications in Michigan. Authorities say no one actually voted improperly as a result of the alleged scam, which stemmed from employees of a voter-registration company trying to defraud their employer and was not a deliberate effort to alter votes.
• The president exaggerated the time it took California to count its votes in its June election and falsely suggested that the long timeline indicates something nefarious occurred.
• Trump said that Congress needed to pass the SAVE America Act, describing its voter ID requirements as “simple.” That’s a matter of opinion. The bill’s ID rules would be stricter than those in most of the 36 states that already have a form of voter ID.

 

[Tigers!]

I am baffled that tRump is still going on and on about 2020.
If he had won, he could not be president now, right?
It must mental illness.

He will never forget that he lost. His ambitions were thwarted.

 

[TSwizzle]

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5970745-trump-threat-election-integrity/

Trump threatens survival of American democracy with election rigging efforts​

The president wants to prevent Democrats from gaining majority control of one or both congressional chambers in the midterm elections to stop them from blocking his favored legislation and investigating him and his administration. He has said a Democratic House majority would impeach him.

Showing his disrespect for elections, Trump continues to claim, falsely, that he won the 2020 presidential race that Joe Biden actually won. This lie could have deadly consequences.

Trump has irresponsibly endangered the lives of Americans and our national security by giving hundreds of FBI employees and members of the intelligence community the impossible mission of proving he was reelected in 2020. While they are wasting time on this, they are not working to protect us against possible terrorist attacks from Iran and America’s other enemies.


@Colonel Sanders Is The Hill considered part of MSM, if so, how are they complicit with Trump?

 

[Elixir]

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5970745-trump-threat-election-integrity/

Trump threatens survival of American democracy with election rigging efforts​

The president wants to prevent Democrats from gaining majority control of one or both congressional chambers in the midterm elections to stop them from blocking his favored legislation and investigating him and his administration. He has said a Democratic House majority would impeach him.

Showing his disrespect for elections, Trump continues to claim, falsely, that he won the 2020 presidential race that Joe Biden actually won. This lie could have deadly consequences.

Trump has irresponsibly endangered the lives of Americans and our national security by giving hundreds of FBI employees and members of the intelligence community the impossible mission of proving he was reelected in 2020. While they are wasting time on this, they are not working to protect us against possible terrorist attacks from Iran and America’s other enemies.

Why did you vote for this atrocity, Swiz?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Did someone claim that Trump isn't a threat to democracy? Well, since The Hill has been fact checked to be one of the most unbiased sources of news, let's see what it says.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5970745-trump-threat-election-integrity/

This is an opinion piece but I think most of the reporters would agree. It was written shortly before his dementia speech.

Trump threatens survival of American democracy with election rigging efforts​

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The president wants to prevent Democrats from gaining majority control of one or both congressional chambers in the midterm elections to stop them from blocking his favored legislation and investigating him and his administration. He has said a Democratic House majority would impeach him.

Showing his disrespect for elections, Trump continues to claim, falsely, that he won the 2020 presidential race that Joe Biden actually won. This lie could have deadly consequences.

Trump has irresponsibly endangered the lives of Americans and our national security by giving hundreds of FBI employees and members of the intelligence community the impossible mission of proving he was reelected in 2020. While they are wasting time on this, they are not working to protect us against possible terrorist attacks from Iran and America’s other enemies.

There is more and it's free to read.

Free garbage.

Is The Hill considered part of MSM, if so, how are they complicit with Trump?

Charred snails and red herring.

 

[Toni]

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5970745-trump-threat-election-integrity/

Trump threatens survival of American democracy with election rigging efforts​

The president wants to prevent Democrats from gaining majority control of one or both congressional chambers in the midterm elections to stop them from blocking his favored legislation and investigating him and his administration. He has said a Democratic House majority would impeach him.

Showing his disrespect for elections, Trump continues to claim, falsely, that he won the 2020 presidential race that Joe Biden actually won. This lie could have deadly consequences.

Trump has irresponsibly endangered the lives of Americans and our national security by giving hundreds of FBI employees and members of the intelligence community the impossible mission of proving he was reelected in 2020. While they are wasting time on this, they are not working to protect us against possible terrorist attacks from Iran and America’s other enemies.


@Colonel Sanders Is The Hill considered part of MSM, if so, how are they complicit with Trump?

The Hill is considered to be centrist leaning conservative.

What’s your issue? Not fascist enough for you?

 

[Elixir]

Free garbage.

Please cite any part of the so-called garbage that is not true.
Sorry Swizzo, but your usual habit of trying to substitute “insufferable prick” or “garbage” in lieu of any rational argument, is not only transparent, but utterly predictable when your intellectual bankruptcy is highlighted.

 

[TSwizzle]

The Hill is considered to be centrist leaning conservative.

Doesn’t address what I asked.

 

[Elixir]

The Hill is considered to be centrist leaning conservative.

Doesn’t address what I asked.

Who the fuck cares why or how they are complicit with Trump?
Do you have a beef with the content of the article, or are you simply embarrassed as usual for having voted for a well known rapist, cheat and career fraudster?

 

[jonatha]

@Colonel Sanders Is The Hill considered part of MSM,

I will answer for him.

No, The Hill is not part of the MSM. It is neither a broadcast news organization (or one of its cable associates) nor a nationally known newspaper.

 

[Toni]

The Hill is considered to be centrist leaning conservative.

Doesn’t address what I asked.

You have Google. You can verify fir yourself if it is affiliated with any other news outlet.

 

[southernhybrid]

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5970745-trump-threat-election-integrity/

Trump threatens survival of American democracy with election rigging efforts​

The president wants to prevent Democrats from gaining majority control of one or both congressional chambers in the midterm elections to stop them from blocking his favored legislation and investigating him and his administration. He has said a Democratic House majority would impeach him.

Showing his disrespect for elections, Trump continues to claim, falsely, that he won the 2020 presidential race that Joe Biden actually won. This lie could have deadly consequences.

Trump has irresponsibly endangered the lives of Americans and our national security by giving hundreds of FBI employees and members of the intelligence community the impossible mission of proving he was reelected in 2020. While they are wasting time on this, they are not working to protect us against possible terrorist attacks from Iran and America’s other enemies.


@Colonel Sanders Is The Hill considered part of MSM, if so, how are they complicit with Trump?

https://factually.co/fact-checks/media/is-the-hill-credible-evaluate-news-credibility-bf5181

1. The Hill's standing in third‑party ratings: broadly center and often "least biased"
Independent media‑rating services consistently place The Hill near the political center: AllSides assigns a Center rating with high confidence based on crowd-sourced reviews [1], Ad Fontes Media ranks it neutral/balanced and highly reliable [2], and Ground News rates The Hill as high factuality while noting a centrist bias composite [3]. Media Bias/Fact Check lists The Hill among its "Least Biased" sources and emphasizes its straightforward, attributed reporting style [7]. These converging assessments support the argument that The Hill is broadly credible as a mainstream political news source [1] [2] [7].
2. Institutional pedigree and reach: why influence follows readership
Founded in 1994 to cover Capitol Hill, The Hill expanded into a national political brand and—according to public records—was ranked second for online politics readership in 2020, distributed free around Washington, D.C., and is owned by Nexstar Media Group since 2021, facts that explain its institutional reach and why its reporting matters to policymakers and the public [5]. InfluenceWatch notes the outlet's stated branding as "trusted and non‑partisan," a positioning echoed by multiple bias ratings that call its news coverage centrist [4] [5].

If you don't like this source, I'm sure there are plenty of other sources that give evidence of Trump's threat to democracy. I did mention that what I posted was an opinion piece, but you don't have to have a high IQ to see the damage that Trump and his toadies are doing to our democracy. Our democracy was never perfect, but the current administration is the worst and considered the biggest threat to democracy by any reliable source of news or anyone with a thinking brain. I choose The Hill because it's considered centrist and usually reliable.

 

[TSwizzle]

If you don't like this source, I'm sure there are plenty of other sources that give evidence of Trump's threat to democracy. I did mention that what I posted was an opinion piece, but you don't have to have a high IQ to see the damage that Trump and his toadies are doing to our democracy. Our democracy was never perfect, but the current administration is the worst and considered the biggest threat to democracy by any reliable source of news or anyone with a thinking brain. I choose The Hill because it's considered centrist and usually reliable.

It's the same rehashed garbage from years ago.

In what way is Trump a threat to democracy? What damage has been done by Trump and his toadies to democracy?

But my original question wasn't about Trump's so called assault on democracy, it was about what is the evidence that the MSM is complicit with Trump, in what way does the MSM accommodate Trump?

"He's always been horrible, is horrible now, and will always be horrible. He'll tell provable lies, sputter nonsensical shit like a 2nd grader trying to describe astrophysics, and none of it will change any of his supporter's minds. Mainstream news will treat it seriously, while his propaganda outlets will treat it like the Gettysburg address."

"The MSM, which use to attempt to be responsible and ethical has found itself trying to accommodate the most reprehensible POTUS in American history. Their very existence has been threatened by Trump. He's actually sued these spineless fucks yet some of them went blank when it came to endorsing a presidential candidate. They simply bowed the fuck out. The cunts refer to themselves as "The Fourth Estate" yet vacate the responsibilities the term implies by failing to sound the alarm bell if things might get hard for them.

They've been cowed; threatened into complicity by an authoritarian pool of vomit. Fox News figured out how to reach people, yet the spineless pricks at formerly legitimate networks can't find their ass with both hands."

 

[Toni]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

 

[TSwizzle]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

There's evidence, you just laugh it off, probably because you don't hear about in the Daily Mail.

 

[Elixir]

you just laugh it off, probably because you don't hear about in the Daily Mail.

Not hearing the truth about the fat ugly rapist traitor he voted for, is a diligently cultivated skill. Could be his only one.

 

[southernhybrid]

you just laugh it off, probably because you don't hear about in the Daily Mail.

Not hearing the truth about the fat ugly rapist traitor he voted for, is a diligently cultivated skill. Could be his only one.

Some people don't want to believe the truth and some people don't ever admit they've made a mistake. That sums it up for now.

 

[Toni]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

Only if you don’t read the newspaper

 

[TSwizzle]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

Only if you don’t read the newspaper

So you can’t back up your claims.