Trump to Address Nation Tonight

[Bronzeage]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

Only if you don’t read the newspaper

So you can’t back up your claims.

Seriously? What kind of flat Earther nonsense are you promoting? Why don't you state that you don't believe any of these claims actually happened instead of demanding an explanation of common knowledge.

 

[TSwizzle]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

Only if you don’t read the newspaper

So you can’t back up your claims.

Seriously? What kind of flat Earther nonsense are you promoting? Why don't you state that you don't believe any of these claims actually happened instead of demanding an explanation of common knowledge.

Common knowledge amongst the conspiracy theorists.

 

[Bronzeage]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

Only if you don’t read the newspaper

So you can’t back up your claims.

Seriously? What kind of flat Earther nonsense are you promoting? Why don't you state that you don't believe any of these claims actually happened instead of demanding an explanation of common knowledge.

Common knowledge amongst the conspiracy theorists.

I'm not a missionary and I don't actually care what you think, but if you aren't willing to state what you believe to be the facts of the matter, there is no point to discussing it with you.

 

[Toni]

Threatening and intimidating news media is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Using governed t agencies to target domestic enemies or ‘enemies’ is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing paramilitary or military forces against citizens and residents is a threat to democracy.

What are you talking about?

Baselessly undermining public confidence in fair and free elections is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Calling into question the legitimacy of past election results is undermining democracy.

What are you talking about?

Utilizing a mob to try to prevent the certification of a free and fair election is undermining democracy and is in fact insurrrection.

lol, this garbage again.

Those are just starters. How many more do you need?

Tthese are claims without evidence.

Only if you don’t read the newspaper

So you can’t back up your claims.

Seriously? What kind of flat Earther nonsense are you promoting? Why don't you state that you don't believe any of these claims actually happened instead of demanding an explanation of common knowledge.

Common knowledge amongst the conspiracy theorists.

Really? I actually watched live the storming of the capitol. I've heard him say those things.

But you're correct: I cannot 'back up my claims' to someone who is so willfully ignorant and probably dishonest. No need to bother with you anymore. You'll have to seek attention elsewhere.

 

[TSwizzle]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

 

[Elixir]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

That’s all your stuffed up ears can hear.

Honestly though Swiz, just how delighted ARE you with your boy’s performance so far? I mean if “orange man bad” chants are the worst thing he brings, you must think he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Either that, or you secretly wanted the Republican Party to be put out of power for the foreseeable future all along.
If that’s the case, my hat’s off to you sir; masterfully executed!

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Just say "orange man bad" and boom, then you don't have to think about any of the criticisms of Trump whatsoever.

 

[ZiprHead]

These people are idiots.

 

[crazyfingers]

These people are idiots.

I can understand lying when the MAGA might be too stupid to know. But are MAGA really too stupid to know that this is a lie?

 

[ZiprHead]

These people are idiots.

I can understand lying when the MAGA might be too stupid to know. But are MAGA really too stupid to know that this is a lie?

MAGA don't go to those forun eatin' places.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Guy went on national television and lied through insinuation that the 2020 election (not the 1876 election) result was tampered with. So yes, Trump is bad. Very bad!

 

[ideologyhunter]

"Through insinuation"??? He said repeatedly that he won by a landslide in 2020. You're either certifiably nuts, bone ignorant, or hoping for an administration job if you claim to believe that Trump won.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

"Through insinuation"??? He said repeatedly that he won by a landslide in 2020. You're either certifiably nuts, bone ignorant, or hoping for an administration job if you claim to believe that Trump won.

He insinuated that foreign powers (China) tampered with the election. I don't think he straight up made the statement though, a bit like the W insinuations of Hussein and 9/11. Yes, he has lied repeatedly for 6 years that he won the 2020 election by a landslide.

 

[TSwizzle]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Guy went on national television and lied through insinuation that the 2020 election (not the 1876 election) result was tampered with. So yes, Trump is bad. Very bad!

Maybe so but what has that got to do with the so called "threat to democracy" and/or how does the MSM help Trump.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Guy went on national television and lied through insinuation that the 2020 election (not the 1876 election) result was tampered with. So yes, Trump is bad. Very bad!

Maybe so...

Not maybe. He did that. As in really did that. He juxtapositioned it in his address, he has not stopped saying 2020 was stolen, and the documents he released to support his allegations showed nothing regarding the votes being tampered with.

...but what has that got to do with the so called "threat to democracy"...

Saying a fairly held election was fraudulent is a "threat to democracy". There is no other way to resolve that. And that is ignoring his riot attempt at seizing the election of 2020.

and/or how does the MSM help Trump.

For whatever reason, you have decided to take a minor observation by someone in the thread and hammer it over and over, despite you potentially agreeing to the overall context that what Trump baselessly alleged was very bad.

 

[TSwizzle]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Guy went on national television and lied through insinuation that the 2020 election (not the 1876 election) result was tampered with. So yes, Trump is bad. Very bad!

Maybe so...

Not maybe. He did that. As in really did that. He juxtapositioned it in his address, he has not stopped saying 2020 was stolen, and the documents he released to support his allegations showed nothing regarding the votes being tampered with.

...but what has that got to do with the so called "threat to democracy"...

Saying a fairly held election was fraudulent is a "threat to democracy". There is no other way to resolve that. And that is ignoring his riot attempt at seizing the election of 2020.

I don't understand how saying off the wall shit is a "threat to democracy". I don't know what Trump said exactly, I didn't watch any of it. What has changed since Trump's crazy talk that threatens demcoracy?

and/or how does the MSM help Trump.

For whatever reason, you have decided to take a minor observation by someone in the thread and hammer it over and over, despite you potentially agreeing to the overall context that what Trump baselessly alleged was very bad.

That "minor observation" has died on the vine because it is not true and has devolved into "orange man bad" like almost every thread on here.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Guy went on national television and lied through insinuation that the 2020 election (not the 1876 election) result was tampered with. So yes, Trump is bad. Very bad!

Maybe so...

Not maybe. He did that. As in really did that. He juxtapositioned it in his address, he has not stopped saying 2020 was stolen, and the documents he released to support his allegations showed nothing regarding the votes being tampered with.

...but what has that got to do with the so called "threat to democracy"...

Saying a fairly held election was fraudulent is a "threat to democracy". There is no other way to resolve that. And that is ignoring his riot attempt at seizing the election of 2020.

I don't understand how saying off the wall shit is a "threat to democracy". I don't know what Trump said exactly, I didn't watch any of it.

Well, gosh... didn't The Daily Mail report it? He implied that foreign nations (China) fudged our election results.

What has changed since Trump's crazy talk that threatens demcoracy?

About half of Republicans agree now that 2020 was stolen. As a note, the crazy talk started in 2016 when he was saying only election fraud could cost him the election. Heck even in 2016/2017 he said he really won by millions of votes.

It is getting so bad, it is bleeding into the Democrat voters as well. Trump has singlehandedly put our secured elections into doubt along primarily his MAGA supporters, among some of the GOP supporters, and spreading across the aisle. When people doubt the veracity of elections, they will generally question anything, regardless the rationality the doubt has or doesn't have. Leads to things like riots at the US Capitol Building, where the cop friendly, MAGA hat wearing middle class white collar protestors started beating on cops and caused the US Capitol Building to be evacuated.

Your position that what Trump isn't threatening democracy is absurd in the light of the conspired attempt to throw the election of 2020 to a vote of Congress (not the certification vote, the vote where the states representatives vote state by state on the outcome), going as far as to editing the VP statement on the election. That wasn't a threat, it was a plot that was only held up in the GOP by two people, McConnell and Pence. Pence, that guy Trump said on social media didn't follow through on the theft "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done."

 

[laughing dog]

Jimmy:

If someone cannot comprehend that deliberately sowing mistrust about the security and fairness of our elections with blatant lies is not a threat to democracy in and of itself, let alone the attempts to reduce participation and to strong arm states to do his unconstitutional demands, no amount of explanation is going to change their opinion.

 

[TSwizzle]

Still can’t back up your claims. Sticking with the “orange man bad”.

Guy went on national television and lied through insinuation that the 2020 election (not the 1876 election) result was tampered with. So yes, Trump is bad. Very bad!

Maybe so...

Not maybe. He did that. As in really did that. He juxtapositioned it in his address, he has not stopped saying 2020 was stolen, and the documents he released to support his allegations showed nothing regarding the votes being tampered with.

...but what has that got to do with the so called "threat to democracy"...

Saying a fairly held election was fraudulent is a "threat to democracy". There is no other way to resolve that. And that is ignoring his riot attempt at seizing the election of 2020.

I don't understand how saying off the wall shit is a "threat to democracy". I don't know what Trump said exactly, I didn't watch any of it.

Well, gosh... didn't The Daily Mail report it?

I don't know if they did or not.

He implied that foreign nations (China) fudged our election results.

I don't know what you or Trump mean by "fudged our election results". And so what that he said it? Adam Schiff is probably still banging on about Russian interference, what ever that is.

What has changed since Trump's crazy talk that threatens demcoracy?

About half of Republicans agree now that 2020 was stolen. As a note, the crazy talk started in 2016 when he was saying only election fraud could cost him the election. Heck even in 2016/2017 he said he really won by millions of votes.

So? Why should I care what they think?

It is getting so bad, it is bleeding into the Democrat voters as well. Trump has singlehandedly put our secured elections into doubt along primarily his MAGA supporters, among some of the GOP supporters, and spreading across the aisle. When people doubt the veracity of elections, they will generally question anything, regardless the rationality the doubt has or doesn't have. Leads to things like riots at the US Capitol Building, where the cop friendly, MAGA hat wearing middle class white collar protestors started beating on cops and caused the US Capitol Building to be evacuated.

Get over it fella.

Your position that what Trump isn't threatening democracy is absurd in the light of the conspired attempt to throw the election of 2020 to a vote of Congress (not the certification vote, the vote where the states representatives vote state by state on the outcome), going as far as to editing the VP statement on the election. That wasn't a threat, it was a plot that was only held up in the GOP by two people, McConnell and Pence. Pence, that guy Trump said on social media didn't follow through on the theft "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done."

*yawn* You are still whining about a minor event from almost six years ago.