How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[ZiprHead]

Putin never wanted to work with the west unless they wanted to roll over and concede whatever he wanted,

Everything you say is patently false and opposite is true.

You already admitted it was true when you said this:

No, what you excrete here at nauseam is BS and lies.

"Yep, take a good deal or we fuck you up, which you more than deserved 10 times over."

Yes, that was the offer. Russia cannot have this shit on its border.

You caused to have this shit on your border. You tried to stop one and got two others. How's that plan working out for you?

Nuland vehemently disagrees with taking credit from her.

Cite?

Her Phone call to one pg her "students"

That's not a citation. That's another of your cold statements with nothing backing it up.

 

[Elixir]

If Russia had taken Kyiv in a few days, and Zelenskyy had fled as planned and expected, Ukraine would have become a shitty nightmare for the occupying forces, with no prospect of ever producing a return on the investment of the costs of invading. Every harvest would be sabotaged; Every Russian administrator or policeman would live in constant fear; Every resource would cost far more in both lives and money to acquire.

Hmmm
Not much of that occurred when the orcs appropriated Crimea.

 

[barbos]

Putin never wanted to work with the west unless they wanted to roll over and concede whatever he wanted,

Everything you say is patently false and opposite is true.

You already admitted it was true when you said this:

No, what you excrete here at nauseam is BS and lies.

"Yep, take a good deal or we fuck you up, which you more than deserved 10 times over."

Yes, that was the offer. Russia cannot have this shit on its border.

You caused to have this shit on your border. You tried to stop one and got two others. How's that plan working out for you?

Nuland vehemently disagrees with taking credit from her.

Cite?

Her Phone call to one pg her "students"

That's not a citation. That's another of your cold statements with nothing backing it up.

Stop diminishing Nulannd life's work.

 

[barbos]

Preliminary reports indicate Ukraine US/UK Flamingoed Russia's Progress Space Rocket Center

Fixed for you. Assiming it's true and "Ukraine" is successful, why is it Ukraine and not Russia begging for stopping air strikes?

 

[TV and credit cards]

Preliminary reports indicate Ukraine US/UK Flamingoed Russia's Progress Space Rocket Center

Fixed for you. Assiming it's true and "Ukraine" is successful, why is it Ukraine and not Russia begging for stopping air strikes?

Knowing Russia will decline and reiterate its maximalist demands?
Can't imagine.

 

[barbos]

By the way, fun fact, with recent Russian attacks reaching 100% success rate (because Ukraine has no air defense) civilian casualty rate in Ukraine from these strikes hit insanely low level.
I wonder why, I wonder why.

 

[barbos]

In other news, Putin issued order to cease Western cargo ships in ..... asian Pacific region.
British assholes are trying frantically to call Russian military.

 

[barbos]

Criminal Case was opened against a german "journalist" who asked Elensky how they (the west) can help Ukraine to kill more russians. The guy I understand is proud of his SS nazi piece of shit grand father.

 

[barbos]

Story is likely to be BS but some russian hackers claim they got Ukrainian military database with all the losses and names. They claim it's 2.4 million (including deserters)
Kiev regime likes to write killed soldiers as deserters in order to not pay compensation to families.

 

[barbos]

Reality:

 

[Elixir]

Reality:

No, babs. What you see when you close your eyes is NOT reality.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Reality:

What's the news here? Yea, Ukraine wants peace. They've offered it many many times. It's your side that rejects it. It's the big difference between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine cares about the lives of their citizens. The old fucks running Russia don't give a shit.

 

[Bronzeage]

The latest rumor out of Russia is Wildberries has moved phones, cameras, and other electronics from the as yet unbombed warehouses to secret locations and when the drones strike, tell the dealers everything was lost in the fire.

 

[Elixir]

The latest rumor out of Russia is Wildberries has moved phones, cameras, and other electronics from the as yet unbombed warehouses to secret locations and when the drones strike, tell the dealers everything was lost in the fire.

The technique of disassembling things and scattering the parts over a wide area, has proven very effective at discouraging shoplifting. Burning some of them also helps.

 

[barbos]

Reality:

What's the news here? Yea, Ukraine wants peace.

Elensky is not Unkraine. He wants something which saves his ass.

They've offered it many many times.

That's absolute falsehood. They offered ceasefire, in order to get some rest.

It's your side that rejects it. It's the big difference between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine cares about the lives of their citizens. The old fucks running Russia don't give a shit.

Yes we reject ceasefire. We want lasting peace with Ukraine which never again used against us.

 

[barbos]

 

[barbos]

An american discuss your fellow russophobes and overall nazis of Baltics:

 

[barbos]

from comment section:

Brian Berletic's basic argument is simpler than that. He understands that the U.S. is not run by politicians with sincere ideological perspectives but by corporations and banks (the investor class) whose only instinct is to grow profits and markets. The Citizens United decision cemented that trend, which is now a fact of American life. Our country's politicians are bought. Trump's appeal is that he gave the false impression that he was different,. He was not bought, or so he claimed.
Maybe because Brian was born here, he gets this. He understands why we abandoned any pretense of the sort of social safety net that still exists in Europe. He has seen the U.S. turn its back on its own workers so as to allow the rich to grow an ever greater share of wealth, without, of course, paying taxes on that wealth. This is why I believe I live in a fascist country. Government no longer exists except for show. This too, makes the Ukraine conflict so dangerous. Putin is dealing with a country (the U.S.) that is above the rule of law. We are a rogue nation and utterly out of control.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Preliminary reports indicate Ukraine Flamingoed Russia's Progress Space Rocket Center that produces Soyuz-2 launch vehicles used to deploy Russian military satellites and the Rassvet low-Earth-orbit network (Russian Starlink).
Will be watching for updates on that one for sure. I've been hoping Ukraine would go after Russia's military space force. The supply chain for it has got to be on shaky ground. It can't take much to put it out of business.

Yep. ISW followed it as did a couple other western news sources. Zelensky said it was a good score. So no Starlinkski for the foreseeable future. And it's not like they have reusable Soyuz rockets stockpiled. Let's see if they try to get SpaceX to put the satellites up for them, marked "Weather Satellites".

In other news, 7 out of 10 Wildberries main warehouses are no more. And Ukraine also hit a solid rocket fuel plant. Hopefully that will crimp Russian missile production.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Reality:

What's the news here? Yea, Ukraine wants peace.

Elensky is not Unkraine. He wants something which saves his ass.

They've offered it many many times.

That's absolute falsehood. They offered ceasefire, in order to get some rest.

It's your side that rejects it. It's the big difference between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine cares about the lives of their citizens. The old fucks running Russia don't give a shit.

Yes we reject ceasefire. We want lasting peace with Ukraine which never again used against us.

Ukraine has offered that it is very open to peace talks. They've signaled over and over that they are willing to give up land for peace. But they aren't going to give up defensive positions, de-arm, and make themselves vulnerable for future Russian aggression.