National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC)

[Shadowy Man]

It would be worth exactly the same. One person one vote.

That's the point.
What possible important concerns could people in Wyoming have that people in Illinois don't?

@Toni, I agree that the traffic business you described was a big problem. But it looks completely like a local issue. Local folks needed to deal with it, not the state or federal government.
Tom

The local people could NOT do what they wanted because the state DOT refused. A portion of a road was also considered a highway although it was in an exclusively residential area surrounded by residential area. Except for some churches and schools, Plus local felt compelled to defer to state DOT. Until that kid got killed. Btw, I snatched my own kid out of harms way more than once.

Those sound like state issues so how would you relate that to whether a President is elected by the states versus by the people. Will these issues get solved better if the President, who doesn’t legislate, is more elected by Wyomingites than Californians? The legislature (Congress) would still have the same local representation it currently has.

 

[bilby]

Each state is a constituency for the senate - it has two senators to represent it.

Each district is a constituency for congress - it has one congressman to represent it.

Each nation is a constituency for the president - it has one president to represent it.

Every voter within a single constituency should have a vote of equal weight in a representative democracy. This happens for senators and congressmen, but for obsolete historical reasons, does not happen for presidents.

And people who can immediately see the problem with a suggestion that each voter should have their vote weighted by how many kids they have, or how many cars, or how many dollars, or the floor area of their residence, seem for no good reason to think it's OK to let voters in presidential elections have a vote weighted by the population density of the state in which they live.

It's bizarre.

 

[Toni]

It would be worth exactly the same. One person one vote.

That's the point.
What possible important concerns could people in Wyoming have that people in Illinois don't?

@Toni, I agree that the traffic business you described was a big problem. But it looks completely like a local issue. Local folks needed to deal with it, not the state or federal government.
Tom

The local people could NOT do what they wanted because the state DOT refused. A portion of a road was also considered a highway although it was in an exclusively residential area surrounded by residential area. Except for some churches and schools, Plus local felt compelled to defer to state DOT. Until that kid got killed. Btw, I snatched my own kid out of harms way more than once.

Those sound like state issues so how would you relate that to whether a President is elected by the states versus by the people. Will these issues get solved better if the President, who doesn’t legislate, is more elected by Wyomingites than Californians? The legislature (Congress) would still have the same local representation it currently has.

It’s the same thing, just different scale. Another example talked about on this board is whether pipelines that go through geologically fragile areas and/or reservation land/historical or cultural sites should be allowed. People in those areas largely say no. People from other states whose land, water, homes won’t be affected might think it’s a great idea.

I don’t think that people in urban areas should be able to force their view of the best land use in rural people who live in the area the urbanites want to impose their control. I don’t think that rural people should be able to skittle state or federal funds for urban infrastructure.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It would be worth exactly the same. One person one vote.

That's the point.
What possible important concerns could people in Wyoming have that people in Illinois don't?

@Toni, I agree that the traffic business you described was a big problem. But it looks completely like a local issue. Local folks needed to deal with it, not the state or federal government.
Tom

The local people could NOT do what they wanted because the state DOT refused. A portion of a road was also considered a highway although it was in an exclusively residential area surrounded by residential area. Except for some churches and schools, Plus local felt compelled to defer to state DOT. Until that kid got killed. Btw, I snatched my own kid out of harms way more than once.

Those sound like state issues so how would you relate that to whether a President is elected by the states versus by the people. Will these issues get solved better if the President, who doesn’t legislate, is more elected by Wyomingites than Californians? The legislature (Congress) would still have the same local representation it currently has.

It’s the same thing, just different scale. Another example talked about on this board is whether pipelines that go through geologically fragile areas and/or reservation land/historical or cultural sites should be allowed. People in those areas largely say no. People from other states whose land, water, homes won’t be affected might think it’s a great idea.

I don’t think that people in urban areas should be able to force their view of the best land use in rural people who live in the area the urbanites want to impose their control. I don’t think that rural people should be able to skittle state or federal funds for urban infrastructure.

And how does electing the President by popular vote instead of the electoral college effect this particular scenario do you propose?