Progressives betray voters and back a Zionist speaker

[RVonse]

Hakeem Jeffries is slated by the Democrats to become our next speaker of the house. And no one else is even pretending to be in the running.
The Democrats don't even bother pretending they are not being steered by special interests. This is the first step towards fulfilling my prediction absolutely nothing will change with either the Iran war or our unhealthy relationship with Israel.

Jefferies might even claim differently but he will be fighting right along side Trump for their blow jobs on Netanyahu's cock. Just wait and see. Look for the proof as to what he does and not what he says.

The blue wave in congress will not change anything about the Iran war or the economy. And we won't fix our problems by voting either.

 

[Toni]

Sigh. It should make you pretty happy that there is a big movement t to scuttle the speakership position for Jeffries, which I find very short sighted. Also worth noting that one can be anti-Zionist without being anti- Semitic. I’m quite concerned that this is being very muddled.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Hakeem Jeffries is slated by the Democrats to become our next speaker of the house. And no one else is even pretending to be in the running.
The Democrats don't even bother pretending they are not being steered by special interests. This is the first step towards fulfilling my prediction absolutely nothing will change with either the Iran war or our unhealthy relationship with Israel.

Jefferies might even claim differently but he will be fighting right along side Trump for their blow jobs on Netanyahu's cock. Just wait and see. Look for the proof as to what he does and not what he says.

The blue wave in congress will not change anything about the Iran war or the economy. And we won't fix our problems by voting either.

What is a "zionist speaker"? Yes, it will be very difficult for us to get out of Iran. Trump got us there. Would a democrat have been bambzelled into invading Iran? Probably not. Netananu tried to talk Biden into it, but he was too savvy.

 

[steve_bank]

From other threads rvonse based in a long dead author thinks the world is destined to and is becoming Jewish.

He is a self described Jew.

 

[Patooka]

Hakeem Jeffries is slated by the Democrats to become our next speaker of the house. And no one else is even pretending to be in the running.
The Democrats don't even bother pretending they are not being steered by special interests. This is the first step towards fulfilling my prediction absolutely nothing will change with either the Iran war or our unhealthy relationship with Israel.

Jefferies might even claim differently but he will be fighting right along side Trump for their blow jobs on Netanyahu's cock. Just wait and see. Look for the proof as to what he does and not what he says.

The blue wave in congress will not change anything about the Iran war or the economy. And we won't fix our problems by voting either.

Stop pretending that you give a flying fuck what Democrats do and maybe look into your own house.

 

[bilby]

From other threads rvonse based in a long dead author thinks the world is destined to and is becoming Jewish.

He is a self described Jew.

I think you may have @RVonse confused with @No Robots, who endlessly spruiks the work of Harry Waton.

 

[Patooka]

Sigh. It should make you pretty happy that there is a big movement t to scuttle the speakership position for Jeffries, which I find very short sighted. Also worth noting that one can be anti-Zionist without being anti- Semitic. I’m quite concerned that this is being very muddled.

I've always found it pretty easy.
"I'm against genocide" - Anti-Zionism
"I'm just asking questions" - Anti-Semitic

 

[Tigers!]

Sigh. It should make you pretty happy that there is a big movement t to scuttle the speakership position for Jeffries, which I find very short sighted. Also worth noting that one can be anti-Zionist without being anti- Semitic. I’m quite concerned that this is being very muddled.

What is your definition of "anti-Zionist"?

 

[Patooka]

Sigh. It should make you pretty happy that there is a big movement t to scuttle the speakership position for Jeffries, which I find very short sighted. Also worth noting that one can be anti-Zionist without being anti- Semitic. I’m quite concerned that this is being very muddled.

What is your definition of "anti-Zionist"?

I suspect being against the concept of Greater Israel for starters. Something the US ambassador to Israel wholeheartedly supports by the way.

 

[RVonse]

What is a "zionist speaker"? Yes, it will be very difficult for us to get out of Iran. Trump got us there. Would a democrat have been bambzelled into invading Iran? Probably not. Netananu tried to talk Biden into it, but he was too savvy.

We will never know whether Trump was coerced or whether he was just stupid.

What we do know is that the Ukraine war was entered with the Biden administration so Biden was not really a peacemaker. And based on all the other stupid wars Democrat POTUS have started (including LBJ) I'm inclined to believe the party of the POTUS would not have mattered in the end.

 

[Harry Bosch]

What is a "zionist speaker"? Yes, it will be very difficult for us to get out of Iran. Trump got us there. Would a democrat have been bambzelled into invading Iran? Probably not. Netananu tried to talk Biden into it, but he was too savvy.

We will never know whether Trump was coerced or whether he was just stupid.

What we do know is that the Ukraine war was entered with the Biden administration so Biden was not really a peacemaker. And based on all the other stupid wars Democrat POTUS have started (including LBJ) I'm inclined to believe the party of the POTUS would not have mattered in the end.

?? Amigo, what are you talking about? Russia invaded Ukraine. Biden very clearly warned Russia into not invading Ukraine. Biden was much much tougher on the aggressor than Trump has been. You can make a strong case that Trump is helping Putin keeping this war going.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Sigh. It should make you pretty happy that there is a big movement t to scuttle the speakership position for Jeffries, which I find very short sighted. Also worth noting that one can be anti-Zionist without being anti- Semitic. I’m quite concerned that this is being very muddled.

What is your definition of "anti-Zionist"?

I suspect being against the concept of Greater Israel for starters. Something the US ambassador to Israel wholeheartedly supports by the way.

? And Jefferies is for the "concept of Greater Israel"? This is an odd thread...

 

[Patooka]

Sigh. It should make you pretty happy that there is a big movement t to scuttle the speakership position for Jeffries, which I find very short sighted. Also worth noting that one can be anti-Zionist without being anti- Semitic. I’m quite concerned that this is being very muddled.

What is your definition of "anti-Zionist"?

I suspect being against the concept of Greater Israel for starters. Something the US ambassador to Israel wholeheartedly supports by the way.

? And Jefferies is for the "concept of Greater Israel"? This is an odd thread...

You might need some context then. This thread was created by someone who loves listening to anti-Semitic white supremacists (Tucker Carlson etc). It's a bad faith argument right from the get go (and not the first or even hundredth time RVonse has done this BTW). Toni pointed out (rightly IMO) that in this current climate the media almost always conflate anti-Zionism/criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic and went on to clarify there is a distinction. Tigers! is of the opinion Israel can do no wrong and that Gaza can't do anything right. They decided to be obtuse and ask what anti-Zionism is and I gave my thoughts. Now you're up to speed.

All in all, I wouldn't take this thread seriously either. It is predicated on something Jimmy fucking Dore ranted about. Don't ever take people who listen to him seriously.

 

[steve_bank]

From other threads rvonse based in a long dead author thinks the world is destined to and is becoming Jewish.

He is a self described Jew.

I asked mods to delete. Wrong reference.

 

[Toni]

What is a "zionist speaker"? Yes, it will be very difficult for us to get out of Iran. Trump got us there. Would a democrat have been bambzelled into invading Iran? Probably not. Netananu tried to talk Biden into it, but he was too savvy.

We will never know whether Trump was coerced or whether he was just stupid.

What we do know is that the Ukraine war was entered with the Biden administration so Biden was not really a peacemaker. And based on all the other stupid wars Democrat POTUS have started (including LBJ) I'm inclined to believe the party of the POTUS would not have mattered in the end.

Biden invaded Ukraine? I did not know that! Here I thought it was Putin.

It would be news to the entire world that any US President was able to stop Russian aggression.

 

[bilby]

We will never know whether Trump was coerced or whether he was just stupid.

¿Porqué no los dos?

 

[bilby]

What we do know is that the Ukraine war was entered with the Biden administration so Biden was not really a peacemaker. And based on all the other stupid wars Democrat POTUS have started (including LBJ) I'm inclined to believe the party of the POTUS would not have mattered in the end.

Of course the party of the POTUS didn't matter with regards to the Ukraine war - the USA is not a belligerent in that conflict, so neither the Whitehouse nor the State Department was in a position to prevent it.

If you can't see the big difference between a war in which the US was a direct participant, firing missiles and dropping bombs from day one, and one in which she was a mere bystander who may perhaps be dragged in at some future point, then I don't know how anyone can help you.

 

[RVonse]

If you can't see the big difference between a war in which the US was a direct participant, firing missiles and dropping bombs from day one, and one in which she was a mere bystander who may perhaps be dragged in at some future point, then I don't know how anyone can help you.

They are both proxy wars. The only difference in the case of Ukraine the US is financing that war so that Ukraine can die against Russia but in the case of Iran, US is cuckolded by Israel as its proxy for bombing Iran for them. More to the point, both wars involve US tax money being used to kill people.

 

[RVonse]

Yes, it will be very difficult for us to get out of Iran.

Why? Congress did not declare the war in the first place and they do not need to fund it further now.

 

[RVonse]

It is predicated on something Jimmy fucking Dore ranted about. Don't ever take people who listen to him seriously.

Text book ad hominem attack or a genetic fallacy.