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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Ukraine is losing Starshield/Starlink again. WTF?

Musk?
Hagseth?
Trump?

Whoever is doing this to Ukraine needs to face serious consequences!


This is truely outrageous. If Musk is so incompetent, nationalize it. Musk has too much power that can lead to the deaths of people. I'd advise him to lawyer up, pronto.
Musk would not do it without permission/instruction from Trump. Nationalizing it would make no difference. This was Trump's decision. Another impeachable offense, IMO.
 
Ukraine is losing Starshield/Starlink again. WTF?

Musk?
Hagseth?
Trump?

Whoever is doing this to Ukraine needs to face serious consequences!


This is truely outrageous. If Musk is so incompetent, nationalize it. Musk has too much power that can lead to the deaths of people. I'd advise him to lawyer up, pronto.
I’ll bet it’s by direction of Trump. If both Starshield and Starlink are being slowed, the gov has control of Starshield and Musk, Starlink so it would come from Trump to slow both.
And it’s likely because Zelensky thumbed his nose at Trump about not striking refineries in Russia.
 
Massive hack of Rosstat, including deaths data, from which the hackers have extracted war deaths of nearly 400000 registered up until August 2026 and extrapolated, taking in to account the lag time of registrations to at least 500000 so far.


 
Massive hack of Rosstat, including deaths data, from which the hackers have extracted war deaths of nearly 400000 registered up until August 2026 and extrapolated, taking in to account the lag time of registrations to at least 500000 so far.


Looks like the Ukrainian war will overtake the Ethiopian-Tigray war as the most costly in lives in the 21st C.
Not a list to be pleased to be the 1st in.
 
Russian police are stepping up raids on moscow alternative youth gatherings to 'preserve public order', detaining hundreds of youths and giving them draft notices (minors were released). Not sure if these are isolated incidents or a sign of a new and larger development. According to DW News, raids like this are common in Moscow, and giving detained people the option to let themselves be drafted to avoid punishment is also normal, but the scale is not.

 
Putin's present demands for peace.



Yes, there is no compromise that will come from Putin. Very sad. We need to help Ukraine. Period...

We should have had US boots on the ground when Russia started assembling their troops at the border. We promised to protect them in exchange for giving up their nukes. We didn't uphold our end of the bargain.
 
Ukraine is losing Starshield/Starlink again. WTF?

Musk?
Hagseth?
Trump?

Whoever is doing this to Ukraine needs to face serious consequences!


This is truely outrageous. If Musk is so incompetent, nationalize it. Musk has too much power that can lead to the deaths of people. I'd advise him to lawyer up, pronto.
You can bet the rent money on it being Trump.
 
Ukraine is losing Starshield/Starlink again. WTF?

Musk?
Hagseth?
Trump?

Whoever is doing this to Ukraine needs to face serious consequences!


This is truely outrageous. If Musk is so incompetent, nationalize it. Musk has too much power that can lead to the deaths of people. I'd advise him to lawyer up, pronto.
You can bet the rent money on it being Trump.

Of course. But Musk is giving him cover.
 
The question is if he is crazy or crazy like a fox.

At the start he inferred he'd resort to nukes if he had to.

He is backed into a corner. Look at him lie Trump. Trump keeps blusterer despite the obvious that he is loosing politically and militarily.

All of the Russians can not be deluded and a blind followers of Putin.

There has to be opposition to the war.

If he really is crazy and delusional he has nukes.

It sounds plausible on Finland..


Finland has rejected reports that Russia wants the country to withdraw from Nato as part of negotiations to end the war in Ukraine. The Kremlin denied making such a demand on Friday, while Finnish ministers said the country's membership was not open to negotiation.

German newspaper Bild reported that Russian negotiators had presented an unofficial proposal in Abu Dhabi seeking to reverse Finland's Nato membership and restrict the alliance's military presence in Eastern Europe.
 
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Putin is showing off his delusions again. The Finnish Yle reports that accordig to the German newspaper Bild, Russia demands that Finland quits Nato and Nato bans military bases on the Baltic states.as condition to peace in Ukraine.

While all this is something Putin would no doubt like to happen, he cannot really expect this to become reality.
I think Putin is the only one in the room who knows the peace talks aren't to be take seriously.
I don't think that Putin is stupid.
I think he's helping his useful idiot in the White House explain Putin is true and brave and good for 'Murica. All those losers in Ukraine and Finland and NATO and such should shut up and sit down.
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Putin is showing off his delusions again. The Finnish Yle reports that accordig to the German newspaper Bild, Russia demands that Finland quits Nato and Nato bans military bases on the Baltic states.as condition to peace in Ukraine.

While all this is something Putin would no doubt like to happen, he cannot really expect this to become reality.
All he had to do was not fucking invade in the first place.
What? And eschew the National character, which has endured unimaginable ass-whupping after unimaginable ass-whipping for centuries?
Russian leaders habitually need conflict, conquest and brutality to survive. Never seems to change much. Could be something in the vodka.
 
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