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Nice Squirrel
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The responses are beautiful. I suspect she'll claim an organized liberal conspiracy. Obummercare is here to stay.
I added mine:
Oh, the horrors--I found a bug in H&R Block's tax program It gets confused trying to figure subsidies when the spouse of the person with the exchange plan is over 65. I had to spend a whole 5 minutes in chat with them to get a workaround--obviously a far worse outcome than being uninsurable in the pre-ACA days.
Oh, the horrors--I found a bug in H&R Block's tax program It gets confused trying to figure subsidies when the spouse of the person with the exchange plan is over 65. I had to spend a whole 5 minutes in chat with them to get a workaround--obviously a far worse outcome than being uninsurable in the pre-ACA days.
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God let's hope not.
Obamacare's an expensive, complicated Rube Goldberg, with compromises letting every corporate interest keep a finger in the pie.
We have dozens of examples of other, simpler systems that deliver better care at a fraction of the cost.
That being said, the ACA is a huge improvement over our previous "system."
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Yeah, when you are used to being in shit up to your necks, I can see why people are happier now that they are only up to their waists. But those of us standing in inch-deep shit wearing (taxpayer funded) stout rubber boots are still amazed at the amount of shit you are prepared to tolerate.
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*comforting pat on shoulder* There, there. You'll get over it one day, you'll see.
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Tolerate? The idiots on the right think ACA is socialism. That a fucking mandate to buy private insurance... is socialism. It isn't about what we'll tolerate, it is more about how fucking stupid the right-wing is.
The Republican Party - Getting 35% of America to vote against their own self interest for 30 years.
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It appears that the ACA made an inroad in somebody's profit profile somewhere. The ACA is far from perfect, but it does seem to have expanded the number of people with access to quality healthcare. If it survives the frontal attack of the Republicans, I wonder how much longer people will be calling it Obamacare? One of the things that seemed obvious to me is that it came from the legislature and Obama really just put his name on it. According to Robert Reich it can morph into a more inclusive plan once the Republican assault subsides if it ever does.
2016 will be a watershed political year no matter what happens. I think the common man, being totally excluded from consideration has made this a difficult issue for many of us. It amazes me that so many get so much medical care, but it does appear to be working better. Now we have Cruz with his big stupid mouth...He an his wife just got signed on to Obamacare....and we are to take him at his word... "I will repeal every word of Obamacare." People who follow men like him need to have their heads examined.
2016 will be a watershed political year no matter what happens. I think the common man, being totally excluded from consideration has made this a difficult issue for many of us. It amazes me that so many get so much medical care, but it does appear to be working better. Now we have Cruz with his big stupid mouth...He an his wife just got signed on to Obamacare....and we are to take him at his word... "I will repeal every word of Obamacare." People who follow men like him need to have their heads examined.
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Isn't this hilarious?
They believe their own bullshit. They really do, and this incident is proof. This outcome probably did not occur to patriot Rogers when she made that post on the Internet. A politician who believes her own bullshit is no different from a drug dealer who uses his own drugs, and frankly I feel sorry for her.
PS -- My deepest apologies to any conservolibertarian protofascists who were offended that I openly criticized a patriotic Real AmericanTM. Can you ever forgive me for being politically incorrect?
They believe their own bullshit. They really do, and this incident is proof. This outcome probably did not occur to patriot Rogers when she made that post on the Internet. A politician who believes her own bullshit is no different from a drug dealer who uses his own drugs, and frankly I feel sorry for her.
PS -- My deepest apologies to any conservolibertarian protofascists who were offended that I openly criticized a patriotic Real AmericanTM. Can you ever forgive me for being politically incorrect?
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Whether or not it occurred to her, she got material that was useful as "examples" of disappointment with Obamacare and is, in fact, using those stories in her press conferences. But I also agree with the OP article point, what may not have occurred to her is that "This is mostly just an object lesson in social media use. As many brands have discovered, opening yourself up to this kind of dialogue is basically an open invitation to get trolled."
Indeed it is. Ask the dependency class if they like free (or massively subsidized) stuff and woo hoo, they do! What a shock.
Still as every politician knows they need to pay attention to more important stuff than anecdotal trolling, stuff like the polls of everyone else that vote.
or:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
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"Dependency Class"
"Dependency Class"
"Dependency Class"
"Dependency Class"
What kind of an asshole would use those words?
Social media and conservatives don't mix well. 
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Most public opinion polls are trolling with numbers - garbage in, garbage out.
I do think collecting verified and accurate stories of ACA "horror stories" is a good idea. How else do we, as a country, fix things if we don't know what is really wrong?
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Whether or not it occurred to her, she got material that was useful as "examples" of disappointment with Obamacare and is, in fact, using those stories in her press conferences. But I also agree with the OP article point, what may not have occurred to her is that "This is mostly just an object lesson in social media use. As many brands have discovered, opening yourself up to this kind of dialogue is basically an open invitation to get trolled."
Indeed it is. Ask the dependency class if they like free (or massively subsidized) stuff and woo hoo, they do! What a shock.
Still as every politician knows they need to pay attention to more important stuff than anecdotal trolling, stuff like the polls of everyone else that vote.
or:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
The belief that we have to choose between universal coverage and lower costs should tell us that we are doing something wrong.
The fact that capitalism and its for profit model failed to provide the country with what we need, high quality, widely available and inexpensive medical care, doesn't mean that capitalism is a failure. The for profit model produces exactly what we saw, an expensive and restricted system that only covers the rich and the healthy.
And no, capitalism wouldn't produce better results if there were fewer regulations. There are so many regulations because the for profit model is so unsuitable for the delivery of health care. We have to force it against its own nature to provide what is needed.
The overly complex ACA is the ultimate expression of that fact. Rather than being socialism it is the opposite, it is a further attempt to bend, squeeze and mutilate capitalism into a form that can deliver the health care that we need but that capitalism is so ill suited to provide.
NobleSavage
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Are there any Republicans saying we should improve on the ACA instead of repealing it? Maybe start by working on cost cutting...
The estimated costs of the ACA already continues to be adjusted downward. So what cost cutting are you referring to?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/u...-on-cost-of-the-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0
If you could remove the overpriced and unecessary insurance companies from the equation and replace them with government departments, costs would go down considerably. Insurance company CEOs may have to settle for boring old silver toilets in their fifth houses, though, instead of the proper golden ones, so it's a bit of a trade off.
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That'd be a nice thing. Problem with cutting costs is that it is almost impossible to tell how much any procedure or service in the hospital costs in the first place!