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Filming police crime vs. filming other criminals
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arkirk
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You are asking for a statistic that would be skewed by police seizing cameras and arresting their owners. People are generally more afraid of videoing cops than crooks. I have witnessed a peculiar form of swarming of cops at even minor arrest situations here in L.A. that generally precludes getting good shots of police doing their shit to people. They set up a crude perimiter and don't let folks with or without cameras watch what they are doing.
What is behind that assumption?
Filming a drug dealer strikes me as far more dangerous than filming a cop.
Thus I don't think we can draw any conclusions from the numbers.
Thus I don't think we can draw any conclusions from the numbers.
arkirk
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I have seen it happen three times not a block from my home. The cops secure a perimeter around the arrest area and block public view of what they are doing. It is not something mysterious. Remember the Eric Garner case? While the cops pinned the guy down and strangled him, there were not enough cops to stop the guy from taking the pictures. The next day the videographer was in jail of "unrealted charges." If you have been following these cases, you would know that most of the videos the public tries to take end with a cop or more occluding the visibility of the action intentionally and frequently demanding the camera.
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Also they might arrest you for "obstructing justice".
arkirk
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Sorry, lack of clarity on my part. It was in reference to the assumption in the OP that we would see more videos of drug dealers, not to your statements on police behaviour.
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I would imagine that drug dealers and criminals would try not to do their business in the public. And certainly not in crowded places where people are filming them. The police, on the other hand, have no choice.
Underseer
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Do they not broadcast news on whatever planet you're from?
Frankly, I would feel safer with more criminals and fewer cops on the streets, but then I'm not a "small government" type like you are.
Videos of criminals will make it online if they are doing something funny, or really stupid.
Kharakov
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Ramsey Orta was arrested long after the Eric Garner video was released.
An incorrect claim about Ramsey Orta, followed by an unsubstantiated claim about most of the videos that the public takes of the police.
Am I supposed to take your comments seriously?
Kharakov
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The prevalence of cameras. Pretty sure there are lots of videos of all sorts of violence- I just wanted statistics. If nobody knows of any, take the conversation whichever way you want.
# of videos of crime, non-police vs. # of videos of crime, police
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arkirk
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It might be simpler if we admit to ourselves that people who are heavily armed and regard being heavily armed as necessary in their lines of work are apt to be more dangerous to you than people who are not armed. When it comes to being johnny on the spot with your camera, you take your chances with criminals and police. Your problem with your camera will be the reaction of an armed person who may or may not feel your photographing him in some act will compromise him.