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The US Murder Rate Is on Track to Be Lowest in a Century

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Some good news:

The US Murder Rate Is on Track to Be Lowest in a Century

This is fairly preliminary data, but Rick Nevin reports that if current trends keep up, we'll end 2013 with the murder rate in America at its lowest rate in over a century.

Analytically speaking, murder is an especially interesting crime because we have pretty good homicide statistics going all the way back to 1900. Most other crimes have only been tracked since about 1960. And if you look at the murder rate in the chart below (the red line), you see that it follows an odd double-hump pattern: rising in the first third of the century, reaching a peak around 1930; then declining until about 1960; then rising again, reaching a second peak around 1990. It's been dropping ever since then.

The article posits the lead exposure in childhood leads to violence hypothesis to explain the trend:

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Interesting, I do remember reading something about this. Removing lead from paint has also correlated to increasing scores in schools and a greater poverty penalty, the poor are more likely to live in places that still have lead paint.

Maybe the problems created by leaded paint is why the collective will of the free market decided to remove lead from paint, another triumph of the free market over intrusive freedom robbing government regulation. </sarcasm - this is not what happened>
 
Freakonomics anyone?

By far the most interesting chapter of that book is the one that correlated the drop in crime with the legalization of abortion. It got some press, but many find the topic distasteful. Neither the press nor the politicians want to brag about unwanted children never existing who would have been far more disposed to poverty and therefore crime.

In the same year(s) that crime began falling, it also began falling in New York City. A couple of years before, the NYPD had begun implementing different practices (I don't know what kinds of practices) and so those practices were given credit for the drop. However, the same drop occurred all over the nation whether or not the NY practices were implemented.

OTOH, in what might be a more disturbing thought is that of incarceration and stiffer penalties for criminal acts. The U.S. has an enormous prison population and maybe that's led to the drop in crime. But I don't have any statistics on that, so maybe someone who does can share.
 
I read that lead poisoning does not correlate with murder rates in other countries so well.
Lead graph is bit weird, why does it have a dip between 1916 and 1956?
 
I read that lead poisoning does not correlate with murder rates in other countries so well.

The homicide rate is much lower in general in most other developed democratic nations, due to lack of guns.
Lead exposure could be a factors that emerges most in the context of guns that make killing so quick and easy and requiring only a half second of rage.
Guns make homicide many many times more likely because it makes killing many time easier and quicker than other methods. A half second of rage and lack of self-control and the guy across the room is dead. If lead poisoning leads to short-lived spikes in rage and negative spikes in self-control, then it would increase the odds that an available gun is used to commit a homicide. Also, if it just makes some people more generally violent, it will make them more homicidal but mostly if they have a gun since killing without one takes more skill, time, and/or planning. IOW, it is quite plausible that gun availability has both a general impact on massively increasing homicides, but also that it serves as an enabling condition that allows other factors to lead to homicide that otherwise would only lead to lesser aggression.

However, other nations do have other non-lethal crimes not impacted by gun availability. The OP research shows that in 9 countries, lead exposure over time predicts an 18 year lagged fluctuation in burglary and robbery (non-linear correlation coefficients in the .70-.90 range), and also assault in both the US and Britain.

Here is a link to an extensive paper with many analyses.



BTW, both race and SES independently relate to lead exposure, thus it probably can also account for some of the differences in violent crime related to those variables as well. A variable that can account for different group level comparisons, plus account for whole population fluctuation over time is compelling as a plausible causal factor, especially if it tracks the outcome variable in a complex non-linear pattern as shown in the OP.

Lead graph is bit weird, why does it have a dip between 1916 and 1956?

Prevalence of using lead paint peaked up until just after 1900 and then fell dramatically. However, from the 1950s to 1970s exposure to lead from gas fumes skyrocketed, especially in the denser cities. The author claims that the phase out of leaded gas in the 1980s is why the much higher murder rate in the biggest cities (over 1 million people) dropped down to similar levels of homicides as medium cities with 250K to 1 million. He also shows that independent of city size and lead gas exposure, differences in violence between cities of similar size can be partly explained by the differences in the lead paint exposure in sub-standard slum housing that was built around 1900 and not well maintained, removed, or at least painted over, so that by 1950s-1970s the paint was chipping and mixing with dust and being ingested by the kids.
 
I'd like to see the same chart superposed with the number of people we have killed by drones. Maybe Obama ate lead paint as a child or should have been aborted.
 
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I read that lead poisoning does not correlate with murder rates in other countries so well.
Lead graph is bit weird, why does it have a dip between 1916 and 1956?

It's hardly the only correlate for crime (for example, religiosity also affects the violent crime rate), and the reason we know it affects the crime rate is not just the correlation. Lead makes people dumber and results in poorer impulse control. We even understand how and why lead does this to the brain.
 
Now, how about the mercury in fish and arsenic in rice?

Well I don't know that Arsenic in rice is much of a problem in the developed world, but in places like Bangladesh, it's a big problem caused largely by inadequate testing of groundwater used in irrigation.

Mercury in fish, on the other hand, is almost entirely the result of burning coal for fuel; the solution to that problem is to replace coal power with nuclear power.
 
The article posits the lead exposure in childhood leads to violence hypothesis to explain the trend:

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The region around 1946-1956 seems to disagree with this hypothesis. Or at least implies a different value for the lag.
 
Wait, I thought we needed "law and order" and our nation was devolving into anarchy.
 
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