What do you do about murder?

[GenesisNemesis]

Just curious.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

You can't prove I do anything about it. Stop accusing me of stuff.

 

[Underseer]

Is this your way of complaining about the "what do you do about rape question"?

Because it is significant that men and women have very different responses to that question, despite all the "men have it just as bad" protestations by the usual woman-haters.

Was it your intention to point out that men and women have very different responses to "what do you do to avoid murder"?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I'll keep you guessing. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[GenesisNemesis]

So I'm guessing no one does anything about murder. Terrible, simply terrible.

 

[Hickdive]

I do about murder what I do about rape, I put on my bat cape and drive around in my rocket car dispensing justice to murderers and would-be-murderers.

 

[Unbeatable]

Just curious.

To make this a real parallel to the other thread, you need to have an anecdote about what people to to protect themselves from murder, and then pull a bait and switch where you ask us what we do to protect other people from murder.

What I do to protect myself from murder: I never go to clubs, bars, parties, or any place where there are a significant number of people who are intoxicated. I avoid physical proximity to/interaction with groups of young men. When interacting with others one-on-one, I avoid openly disagreeing or arguing with them and keep my true thoughts and feelings to myself to prevent conflict. I try to keep my interactions with other people in real life brief and infrequent. When out in public, I avoid physical proximity to others, I avoid eye contact, and I maintain a stoic expression. I try to avoid being in bad neighborhoods or unfamiliar urban settings in the first place, but in the event that I go to one, I tend to keep a box cutter in my pocket or under the cuff of my shirt. I keep car/house windows closed and doors locked.

What I do to protect other people from murder: I manage my anger. I avoid getting into arguments in real life. I avoid purchasing products which I know I would be tempted to use for murder, like machetes, ceramic knives, and firearms. Preventing other people from murdering each other is not my concern. It is the concern of the police. As far as I am concerned, everybody who is not me is a potential threat to my safety. To put my neck on the line for them is almost always an unacceptable risk.

 

[bigfield]

I don't murder anyone.

 

[Terrell]

Avoid committing murder, avoid dangerous situations as much as possible.

 

[Celldweller]

I dunno, call Dexter. He seemed to have it all figured out.

 

[dystopian]

What do you mean, what do I do about murder? You seem to be implying that my mass murdering ways are some sort of character flaw.

 

[Kharakov]

Ok, at this point, everyone has thought "hide the bodies", right? Ummm... right? Anyone?

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Because it is significant that men and women have very different responses to that question, despite all the "men have it just as bad" protestations by the usual woman-haters.

I still want to know why you think "woman-haters" here claim that "men have it just as bad" in regard to rape. You posted that same claim in two threads now. Women clearly get raped more than men do. Who has said otherwise?

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Ok, at this point, everyone has thought "hide the bodies", right? Ummm... right? Anyone?

LOL

What to do about Murder? Try to keep society harmonious, reduce hardships, and try to keep people from being ostracized is the best I think we can do. You will always have some nutters who are just plain sick in the head that want to kill people, but a better society may save some others from going down the killer's path.

 

[Unbeatable]

I still want to know why you think "woman-haters" here claim that "men have it just as bad" in regard to rape. You posted that same claim in two threads now. Women clearly get raped more than men do. Who has said otherwise?

You're missing the point. The point is that anyone on the opposite side of an argument from Underseer must be a misogynistic conservolibertarian. Only people who agree with Underseer have good reasons for thinking as they do. Everyone else is ideologically biased and probably evil.

 

[Rhea]

I keep an eye out for people walking alone in town, i there are other people who may be following oddly. If I'm in my car and see someone who is at risk, I slow down, so the car is visible to followers. If I'm not in my car I do something else to make it obvious that there are witnesses.

I call the cops when I see something suspicious, like a person with a bike hanging out by the side of the road last summer (very unusual here).

I make sure employees at my work site don't need to leave the building alone.
I pull the drapes during meetings to prevent people from targeting anyone from the outside.
I call the cops when I get a letter threatening "2nd amendment solutions" at a public meeting and have a sheriff attend.

I saw a woman yesterday, standing at the side of the road sobbing while a car sped away from her. I stopped to see if she needed a ride somewhere or felt danger from whoever that was.
When I see kids and teens walking alone where they aren't safe, I slow down, maybe even circle around to make sure they get home.

I look around me at convenience stores, just to be aware if someone is acting odd.

I report activities and odors that suggest meth lab activity when I encounter it.

I talk to people about the stupid and dangerous ideas that "2nd amendment" fears should be considered real or should be countered by threats.
I talk to people who say reckless and nasty things dehumanizing others about how wrong and antisocial they are.

I take keys from drunks.

 

[dystopian]

I keep an eye out for people walking alone in town, i there are other people who may be following oddly. If I'm in my car and see someone who is at risk, I slow down, so the car is visible to followers.

Sounds like the start of a driveby to me.

I call the cops when I see something suspicious, like a person with a bike hanging out by the side of the road last summer (very unusual here).

What's suspicious about that?

I'd be pretty annoyed if some random person called the cops on me just for standing around somewhere.

I pull the drapes during meetings to prevent people from targeting anyone from the outside.

That seems... paranoid.

When I see kids and teens walking alone where they aren't safe, I slow down, maybe even circle around to make sure they get home.

Hang on, hang on. When you see kids by themselves, you circle around them? That's... kind of creepy!

I take keys from drunks.

Isn't that theft?

 

[pegasus8]

Just remember people do not do something stupid that you will regret for the rest of your life!

Just curious.

If any of us want to see murder or someone getting "jacked," you know a 187 just go down to your city's ghetto or barrio and act like you want to score some hubba. One can go down to Oakland, aka "O Town," and pretty much see or at least hear someone getting killed. There is about 100 to 160 murders a year in Oakland? I forget. I hear that Detroit has some pretty rachett neighborhoods too. And who can forget wonderful L.A. They do not call it the"home of the body bags," for nothing. There are people that will jack anyone for some crack if you break them off enough. They will kill their fregin mother if the price is right; sad but true.

So what do you do if you see someone getting jacked in the ghetto? Not a MF thing unless you want to get involved as a witness in some gang banger thug's trial. And I am sure that they would love to know who you are if you do. Keep you SH** close by and your doors lock at all times in the F*** up neighborhoods. And always have a good alarm at the house along with a good gun safe for your stuff.

Most assholes do not want to smoke you;they just want your shit. Ah but then if you have pissed someone off or owe them money$$ then that is whole other reason for a motive. Premeditated murder is way different then just a spur of the moment thing. People kill for drug deals all the time. The more people the more 187's.

So what do you do about murder? Well everything that you can silly. Oh and by the way most people get shot and killed in their homes from someone that they know. You know just like how most people get into a car accident close to home. Gee funny how that works. What you do not want to do, IMO, is end up like the "Tweakers," and have bars on you windows with cameras everywhere. I mean where does the shit end. Keep you stuff locked in a gun safe, it is worth the investment, and do not leave your house with a loaded gun if you are not going to use it. That is how people get killed. "I was just only going to scare him." OOPS Boya!

The concrete apartments are full of murderers and drug dealers. If it was not personal then it was only business.

Peace

Pegasus

 

[Archimedes]

I don't murder anyone.

That's a terribly flippant answer to the serious problem of murder. Shame on you!

 

[Archimedes]

If any of us want to see murder or someone getting "jacked," you know a 187 just go down to your city's ghetto or barrio and act like you want to score some hubba. One can go down to Oakland, aka "O Town," and pretty much see or at least hear someone getting killed. There is about 100 to 160 murders a year in Oakland?

That's about 1 murder every few days. So you'd need to hang around for an average of 2 or 3 days in order to be in Oakland at the same time as a murder happening. And I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that merely being in a city of 400,000 people at the same time a murder happens is not going to result in you seeing or hearing the murder take place.

I think that wanting to witness a murder is not quite so easy as you make it out to be.

 

[pegasus8]

Any time I see the yellow tape being rolled out I am ABC see yeh wouldn't want to be yeh!

If any of us want to see murder or someone getting "jacked," you know a 187 just go down to your city's ghetto or barrio and act like you want to score some hubba. One can go down to Oakland, aka "O Town," and pretty much see or at least hear someone getting killed. There is about 100 to 160 murders a year in Oakland?

That's about 1 murder every few days. So you'd need to hang around for an average of 2 or 3 days in order to be in Oakland at the same time as a murder happening. And I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that merely being in a city of 400,000 people at the same time a murder happens is not going to result in you seeing or hearing the murder take place.

I think that wanting to witness a murder is not quite so easy as you make it out to be.

You Archimedes are correct. I was just using hyperbole to make my point. It is like up here in Sonora. A local got shot and killed Sunday morning at his car shop. OMG you should have heard it in the town gossip and newspaper. No one has been killed, shot-jakced, in Sonora for like 7 years? So it is a big deal. My point is that in middle class suburbia and or upper class America it is a big deal if someone gets murdered. In the ghetto and barrio it is a common occurrence. It is like Meh! Home boy got jacked because he was slinging. This was my point. Oakland sucks pretty bad I was just using it for an example; people get jacked there all the time. The people go like "oh it is so terrible" then they turn on their TV's and watch their stupid shows all night. They even have people who put bricks in their bedrooms just in case they get some stray bullets when the drug dealers are shooting it out. From how I understand it is that Oakland has these speaker like systems that gather the sound of the guns shots in a particular neighborhood. They are high up on these poles mounted as to pick up the gun shots and send it to the corresponding center. It is used to help send the finite overburden cops to the sounds of gun shots since most people refuse to talk to the police for fear of retribution.

And we both know that it can be knives, bottles, fist, whatever is the weapon and vector of choice when someone gets killed. It just is an accepted way of life in the bad parts of town anywhere USA.

By the way excellent choice of name Archimedes. IMO one of the smartest men who ever lived as you know. He does not get the credit that he deserves like Newton, Einstein, Hawkins, et al.

All we do in America today is kill each other like some third world country. It is a shame. When it comes to the suburbs or the upper scale neighborhoods it then becomes an issue. All the poor, disenfranchised and people of color then it is "who cares and so what," as long as "those people," do not bring that to "our" neighborhood. I was a NRA member for years till they started to go all bonkers and crazy. They went from a cool guns rights, hunter, weapon enthusiast magazine to some paranoid, gun profits over people movement in the last 20 years. It used to be all about hunting, plinking and having a good time. Now it is all about the boogie man is out there trying to kill you, rape you wife and all the white women. So to arms to arms and then to WallMart for more over priced ammo!

What do you do about murders? You do what you can to protect yourself, your family and your love ones. IMO, it is these small phallic assholes with guns everywhere going into Starbucks, bowling alleys, etc., with AR-15's and stuff blowing it for everyone else. And it is going to get worse with all the paranoid crap being tossed out there.

Murder? Sad. Grown ups are not supposed to act stupid and immature. Life is sacred and precious.

Peace man and go California Chrome

Pegasus