I Didn't Rape Her, I Slipped

[Tom Sawyer]

Da fuck?

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/12/16/millionaire-who-claimed-he-fell-into-teen-cleared-of-rape

A British jury only took 30 minutes to find a Saudi millionaire not guilty of rape after he claimed he accidentally penetrated an 18-year-old girl on his couch when he tripped and fell.

Abdulaziz claimed he came out of the bedroom to offer the girl a T-shirt to sleep in or pay for a cab ride home. But when she pulled him towards her, he fell. He said that’s when his erect penis must have accidentally penetrated her.

I have absolutely no response to that.

 

[ZiprHead]

Wasn't there a pastor who went to an emergency department with a potato stuffed up his ass and said he fell on it while hanging drapes?

One wonders about the mathematics of how these "accidents" happen.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Wasn't there a pastor who went to an emergency department with a potato stuffed up his ass and said he fell on it while hanging drapes?

One wonders about the mathematics of how these "accidents" happen.

Well, we know how they happen. The question is how the fuck do you convince a jury of this bullshit?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

As it should have happened! This story is totally believable. Why would you want to ruin this man's life, anyway? He's just a man. /s

 

[ZiprHead]

Wasn't there a pastor who went to an emergency department with a potato stuffed up his ass and said he fell on it while hanging drapes?

One wonders about the mathematics of how these "accidents" happen.

Well, we know how they happen. The question is how the fuck do you convince a jury of this bullshit?

Agreed. The defendant was a rich Saudi millionaire. So much of the culture of the middle east and Asia runs on graft and corruption, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 or 3 of those jurors suddenly ended up with a good bit of folding money in their pockets after the trial.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, we know how they happen. The question is how the fuck do you convince a jury of this bullshit?

Agreed. The defendant was a rich Saudi millionaire. So much of the culture of the middle east and Asia runs on graft and corruption, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 or 3 of those jurors suddenly ended up with a good bit of folding money in their pockets after the trial.

But this is in England. I assumed that they would have more safeguards on the integrity of their legal system than one would expect to find in a shithole like Saudi Arabia. Apparently, that was mistaken assumption on my part.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Better stone her so it doesn't happen again.

 

[ZiprHead]

I wouldn't say apparent, but I would call it a pretty good guess.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

"Million to one shot, doc."

 

[ZiprHead]

Better stone her so it doesn't happen again.

Damn skippy. Wouldn't want that lying bitch to falsely accuse someone else of rape.

 

[TSwizzle]

There will be a lot more to this case than what is reported in that snippet.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

There will be a lot more to this case than what is reported in that snippet.

One would think so. However, even though there should me more to it, I'm stumped as to how there could be more to it.

If your rape defence includes anything close to the phrase "I tripped and accidentally stuck my penis in her", you're essentially saying that you raped her but just don't give enough a shit to bother coming up with a denial. It's right up there with being found holding a severed head and a bloody knife and saying "Ya, the guy accidentally cut his head off while shaving and I was using the knife to clean up the blood from the floor". You're saying that you did it but everyone should just fuck the hell off and not give you any shit over it.

The jury heard him give this defence and yet found him not guilty after a half hour of deliberation. I don't know what else there is to it, but I can't think how there'd be anything else which would counter what's already known.

 

[TSwizzle]

There will be a lot more to this case than what is reported in that snippet.

One would think so. However, even though there should me more to it, I'm stumped as to how there could be more to it.

"Penetration" may not have actually occurred is my guess.

 

[4321lynx]

What about simply:

1. Didn't pay the girl enough therefore RAPE
2. Paid jury enough therefore NOT GUILTY


Now ARISE! ye defenders of all (esoecially female ) "victims".

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

There will be a lot more to this case than what is reported in that snippet.

One would think so. However, even though there should me more to it, I'm stumped as to how there could be more to it.

If your rape defence includes anything close to the phrase "I tripped and accidentally stuck my penis in her", you're essentially saying that you raped her but just don't give enough a shit to bother coming up with a denial. It's right up there with being found holding a severed head and a bloody knife and saying "Ya, the guy accidentally cut his head off while shaving and I was using the knife to clean up the blood from the floor". You're saying that you did it but everyone should just fuck the hell off and not give you any shit over it.

The jury heard him give this defence and yet found him not guilty after a half hour of deliberation. I don't know what else there is to it, but I can't think how there'd be anything else which would counter what's already known.

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He says she tried to seduce him, but tripped and fell and... well who hasn't that happened to. This then leads to the next question, if she tried to seduce him... isn't that enough. I'm a millionaire and she was trying to extort me. No... his defense is he tripped. Which apparently a defense that works back home. It is appalling that it worked in England.

 

[nightwyrm]

It's like that joke about someone tripping and falling onto my knife, thirteen times....

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Well, we know how they happen. The question is how the fuck do you convince a jury of this bullshit?

Agreed. The defendant was a rich Saudi millionaire. So much of the culture of the middle east and Asia runs on graft and corruption, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 or 3 of those jurors suddenly ended up with a good bit of folding money in their pockets after the trial.

Either that or they were threatened with very bad things if they convicted.

I would be very surprised if the jury actually bought the story.

 

[TV and credit cards]

I would've went with the magic-cumshot defense.

 

[fast]

One would think so. However, even though there should me more to it, I'm stumped as to how there could be more to it.

If your rape defence includes anything close to the phrase "I tripped and accidentally stuck my penis in her", you're essentially saying that you raped her but just don't give enough a shit to bother coming up with a denial. It's right up there with being found holding a severed head and a bloody knife and saying "Ya, the guy accidentally cut his head off while shaving and I was using the knife to clean up the blood from the floor". You're saying that you did it but everyone should just fuck the hell off and not give you any shit over it.

The jury heard him give this defence and yet found him not guilty after a half hour of deliberation. I don't know what else there is to it, but I can't think how there'd be anything else which would counter what's already known.

source

He says she tried to seduce him, but tripped and fell and... well who hasn't that happened to. This then leads to the next question, if she tried to seduce him... isn't that enough. I'm a millionaire and she was trying to extort me. No... his defense is he tripped. Which apparently a defense that works back home. It is appalling that it worked in England.

Hmmm, let me see if I can justify some immoral behavior. I suppose I might find some admiration in his defense should a very narrow set of circumstances actually occurred. I haven't the foggiest clue about what did or did not actually happen in each progressive stage of this drama, but if she and he had consensual sex later met by attempted extortion with little chance of truth being his saving grace, then all moral principles go out the window when faced with freedom being taken without just cause.

As Tom said, "fuck the hell off." That might be my stance too if I were in fact innocent but stood a dismal chance of prevailing in securing a better chance of deserved freedom. So yeah, people of the world, if you're going to expect me to play by a set of rules that'll guarantee my incarceration, then you may take your principles and shove them up your ass.

The story is so very unlikely that it strains the imagination--that he fell literally into her, and to think she could be a victim is so very unfortunate, but if there's some reason to think (be it direct or otherwise) that she was trying to extort money AND if the probability is over 20% that he would be found guilty after telling the truth despite inncocence, then I argue that dishonesty and immoral behavior is justified.

 

[gmbteach]

One would think so. However, even though there should me more to it, I'm stumped as to how there could be more to it.

"Penetration" may not have actually occurred is my guess.

If his penis was in her vagina, he penetrated her.

My question is this: Did she, at any time, say 'No', or 'Stop'? If not, then consent could be implied and therefore it isn't rape.