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What do you do about rape?

That's two very different types of rapists.

1. The frustrated guy who really wants that hot girl he's had his eye, but she keeps denying him. He refuses to take no for an answer, so he gets her drunk until she's "willing", and then tells himself she wanted it, because of how she dressed, and how she acted towards him, etc.

2. The sadist who targets his victim, picks her up in a black van, ties her down, demeans her, tells her to scream, and stares her in her eyes as he penetrates and violates her, getting off on every whimper and tear.

I don't think it makes any sense at all to equate the motives of these two rapists. Sexual desire has a lot to do with the first, and little to do with the second. The second is about power. Not every rapist is the same, and they rape for different reasons.

I think the finding (presented in studies linked to above) that most rapists don't prefer rape to consensual sex says a lot. If it was all about power, they'd prefer rape, wouldn't they? And if it was all about power, they would want the victim to be awake and resisting the rape.
 
??? Why is it desirable for it to be an empirical question?

That it is an empirical question is a fact, I've said nothing about whether this particular epistemology is desirable.

Um.. Rapists?

I see the confusion. I'm not a rapist.

Which isn't directly measureable. What you're proposing measuring is clothing worn by rape victims. All lack of clothing is likely to do is make someone look more sexually desirable. It doesn't tell you if a rapist is motivated by wanting sex, or by wanting to exert power over sexually desirable people.

If sexually desirable people are more likely to be raped, that tells me that rape is at least partially about sex.

It's a reasonable precaution that I could be expected to make to keep myself safe. Something that doesn't apply to women's clothing.

One doesn't know if it's a reasonable precaution unless the question is allowed to be uttered and explored.

The insurance company is likely to disagree. It is likely that I will be compared to other people who did lock their doors, and that it will be suggested that I was being irresponsible by not locking my door. In a court of law it could be argued that because I knew of this simple precaution, I was in effect inviting burglars into my home, and thus would be legally responsible for the consequences.

You'd be legally responsible for the consequences of what? Are you suggesting that the police will refuse to investigate a robbery where you left the door unlocked, and that they will blame you rather than the robber? And that, should the goods be recovered, you won't get them back, because you left the door unlocked?

As for insurance companies -- they already profile people based on risk that has nothing to do with 'blame'. In Australia, your car insurance depends partly on your postcode and whether your car is garaged at night or parked on the street. That isn't about blame, it's about actuarial risk.
Whether you personally agree with such reasoning isn't particularly relevant.

Whether I agree is one thing. Whether it is right or wrong is another.

It's suggesting that they voluntarily reduce their choices to mitigate a problem not of their making.

We suggest this to people all the time.

I wouldn't let a 13 year old child (if I had one) walk home at night in a risky neighbourhood, even though it reduces their choice of where to go at night.

It's not unspeakable, it just raises my suspicions. If we have no intention of telling women to dress conservatively to avoid being raped, then it's not very useful information.

I've said nothing of 'telling' people to do anything. I want people to be aware of the facts. Being aware of the facts is a good thing.

Similarly, the question of whether homosexual men can be 'cured' of their sexual orientation by some form electroshock therapy is an empirical fact. As is the question of whether you can reduce the chances of homophobic assault simply by pretending to be heterosexual for your entire life. It's got some pretty nasty overtones though, and it's naïve to pretend otherwise.

It has nasty tones if you think a homosexual man is obligated to do these things. I don't. But it may indeed be the case that a homosexual man is less likely to experience violence if he is not openly gay. That does not mean I think homosexual men should be forced to stay in the closet, or that I think they deserved to experience violence.

But I'd also understand if a homosexual man chose to stay in the closet.
 
You have a girl who wouldn't have sex with you. If you go and get sex with someone who does, it's about sex. If you come back when she's unconscious and then have sex with her, yes it's a power play. She turned you down, but she's having sex with you now. That's a power thing.

That's using a really ... abstract ... definition of a power play. Is there any crime which isn't a power play using that type of definition?

Abstract? How so? he could have gone on and had sex with someone else. He could have masterbated rather than have sex with a limp body. But no, he wanted this particular girl, the one who turned him down, even though she doesn't want him. That's not about gettin your end away, that's about conquest. It's about having to face her, her friends, and your friends the next day knowing she had you chasing her all evening and you never got anywhere.

That's why it's so often accompanied by status-seeking behaviour, like taking pictures, telling all your friends, doing it in public, etc., even though advertising your rape is kinda a dumb thing to do.

This seems like an argument that the rape is about status, and that the sex would still be largely about status even if it had been consensual.

I tend to find the whole sex/power dichotomy strange, because it seems to me, from the way men talk about consensual sex, that it is often about things like self-worth and peer approval in addition to things like physical pleasure and intimacy. Rape certainly isn't the only context wherein sex is equated with "conquest".
 
Some general observations about this “evidence”.
The cited claims do not assert that “rape is all about power and not about sex”, which is the idea that I have critiqued. Yes, this idea is extremist, which is precisely what makes it so unscientific, and why only political motives would generate such a idea. The cited “works” (some such bald assertions)only assert a much more nuanced and limited claim that power and dominance play a major role in rape, leaving plenty of room for a significant influence of sexual arousal and desire for sexual gratification, especially in some types of rape such as the date rapes that I focused upon as being especially influenced by sexual goals. In fact, my arguments repeatedly acknowledge that power must be a part of rape as matter of definition, since sex without use of power to thwart a person’s will is not rape. I have also repeatedly pointed out that use of power varies and is more central to some types of rape. IOW, this “evidence” cited below isn’t actually relevant to the claim in question or any of the core aspects of my arguments, and if intended as I response to me is a classic case of goal post moving in which evidence presented is for a for more modest claim that isn’t under dispute as though it supports the more extreme claim that is in dispute.
BTW, the reason I took on the extremist position is not only because it is rampant in public discourse, but it the assumption that underlies how this issue of sex-vs-power arose in this thread. It is this extremist assumption the inherently underlies any accusations of “victim blaming” against people who merely raise the possibility that female behavior related to sexual signals can play a role in some forms of rape (accusations made here repeatedly), and this extremist position underlies claims made here (especially by Sabine) that any effort to raise the issue of victim behavior is “off-topic” and not relevant to the OP issue of rape-prevention. Such claims rest directly upon the assumption that sexual arousal and everything else related to sexual signals have zero relevance to any incidence of rape, including anything about to who, when, where, and how the rape occurs. Unless this extremist position is completely true, then the objections about raising victim behavior factors are invalid.
So, now onto the cited “evidence” for this other, more modest and not actually disputed claim:
In support of Sabine and the rape-as-power idea, I give you the following links:
MSU: Sexual Assault Myths
http://www.mnsu.edu/varp/assault/myths.html

UMD: List of RAPE MYTHS
http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html
Myth: Rape is sex.
Fact: Rape is experienced by the victims as an act of violence. It is a life-threatening experience. One out of every eight adult women has been a victim of forcible rape. (National Victim Center and Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992) While sexual attraction may be influential, power, control and anger are the primary motives. Most rapists have access to a sexual partner. Gratification comes from gaining power and control and discharging anger. This gratification is only temporary, so the rapist seeks another victim.

These first two are from a victims advocacy sites that list numerous claims, most without supporting evidence. No reasonable person thinks that advocacy groups rigorously stick to scientifically supportable assertions, so the link doesn’t give us reason to think there is evidence, just more claims. The fact that victims experience rape as violence and not sex is so grossly unrelated to the issue of whether rapists are impacted by sexual arousal that to put them together as though they are the same “myth” shows severe intellectual dishonesty or incompetence. Also, note that the underlined part of “Rape is sex” which acknowledges the influential role of sexual attraction on the part of the rapist, which supports my arguments and directly contradicts the actual idea in dispute that “rape is all about power and not about sex.” The first myth that “The primary motive for rape is impulsive sexual desire”, allows for 49.9% of the variance in rape probability in any given situation to be due to sexual desire and even more than that for particular sub-types of rape given this is a claim about what is true on average across rape types. Despite its compatibility with my critiques, let’s look the evidence they use to support the claim that rape is primarily about power. “ The only evidence is that “between 2/3 and 3/4 of sexual assaults are planned in advance.” The problem with that is clear when you simply substitute “sexual assaults” with “loving consensual sex” and realize that the statement is equally true. IOW, “advance planning” has no implications for underlying psychological motives beyond the fact that people often plan to satisfy their desires of all various types.

PubMed: Rape: power, anger, and sexuality
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/910975
Abstract
Accounts from both offenders and victims of what occurs during a rape suggest that issues of power, anger, and sexuality are important in understanding the rapist's behavior. All three issues seem to operate in every rape, but the proportion varies and one issue seems to dominate in each instance. The authors ranked accounts from 133 offenders and 92 victims for the dominant issue and found that the offenses could be categorized as power rape (sexuality used primarily to express power) or anger rape (use of sexuality to express anger). There were no rapes in which sex was the dominant issue; sexuality was always in the service of other, nonsexual needs.
(I personally like this one ↑↑ very much. It is meta-analytical and balanced.)
Unfortunately, my library won’t give me access to articles that old from that journal. But one thing that seems clear from the abstract is they used a selective sample of rapists, namely those caught and convicted of rape. Given the low reporting, arrest, and eventual conviction rates for rape in general, it is certain that particular subtypes of rape vary greatly in the odds of eventual convictions. It is highly likely that rapes by well known assailants, especially family members with whom one wouldn’t be expected to have consensual sex would be higher in conviction rates (because the victim knows who the perp is, its easy to find them, and any evidence of sex will be viewed more as evidence of rape than consensual sex). Other higher conviction rape types would be those by serial rapists, especially violent ones where the odds of forensic evidence is higher. Well, if you ranked the rape types by their likelihood of being motivated by power or anger, those by family members and violent serial rapists would be near the top. So, at best it tells us about a selective subset of rapes that differ in countless qualitative ways from other types of rape. But even for these subsets of rapists, their phrasing of the results imply that underlying motives was not measured in a clear objective way and instead the authors probably used therapy-based interviews (where the questions heavily determine the answers given), then constructed a coding scheme to use indirect information to categorize the rapes into primary motives. If they even have an clear and specified categorization rubric, such rubrics are inherently laden with a prior assumptions and thus cannot test any hypothesis that shares those assumptions). Even in a best case scenario rapist responses would likely focus heavily upon stated motives that make them rape at all rather than shed light on the precise details of why they raped the person they did, when they did, and how they did. Given the highly questionable science that came out of psychiatry in the 1970s, one really cannot glean anything without knowledge of these many critical methodological details about the sample, the setting, had the rapists already learned the therapeutic perspective at the time of data collection?, the questions asked of the rapists, the exact answers given, and the assumptions of the categorization scheme that was used.
Those are the just the kind of particulars that would be most impacted by sexual arousal and determine and relate to the probability of rape for a given situation and therefore relate rape prevention by victims and those around them. After all, the victim cannot prevent the rapist from being a person likely to rape. They can only prevent themselves or those around them from being the one that gets victimized. This makes so much of the information on what distinguishes a rapist from those who’d never rape of limited utility to the issue of what make a rapist rape the person they do, when they do, and how they do. Confusing these issue lead to erroneous inferences like “Rapists differ from non-rapists in the severity of their power and dominance issues, therefore whether a rape occurs in a given situation is unaffected by issues surrounding sexual arousal.” The latter does not follow from the former.

Finally, Togo cited a paper which he/she intended as support for the “rape is about power” meme but in fact reviewed evidence that sexual arousal is very much a driving factor in many rapes and that power is often just a means to an end, thus recommending interventions with some rapists that would be sure to backfire if power and dominance were their driving motivations. So, at best we have a body of literature that supports an important role for power, but also for sex and with varying roles for these depending upon the nature of the rape. Thus, “rape is all about power, and not about sex” is not scientifically supported and is in fact refuted and just as wrong as “Rape is only about sex, and has nothing to do with power”
 
I alluded to this problem with how research on rapists is often misapplied to causes of particular rape events, but it deserves more direct attention because I think it represents an honest reasoning error among those discounting the relevance of sexuality to rape. Most of the research underlying claims about “Rape is about power” focuses upon the things that differ between rapists and non-rapists, the ways in which they are abnormal. While relevant to understanding what allows a person to ever rape at all compared to only engage in consensual sex, it is of more limited use (and somewhat misleading) in understanding the causal determinants of the particular details of to whom, when, under what circumstances, where, and how a particular rape occurs. Thus, while the abnormalities of rapists are important for treatment of the rapist themselves, they are of limited utility in rape prevention strategies for potential victims they cannot hope to eliminate potential rapists from their environment or avoid any person with power issues, but can do things to reduce the odds that they personally are the victim of a rapist.
The reason why the abnormalities of rapists are an insufficient source of information about the causes of particular aspects of a rape event is because the rapist are still human and still normal in most ways and thus their behaviors, including sexual ones, are still heavily shaped by the ways in which they are normal and similar to non-rapists interacting with the ways in which they differ. This principle actually applies not just to the behavior of people but of objects, so we can illustrate the issue with an analogy to a basic physics problem and building a causal model of the motion of a specific object. Imagine two identical balls perched at the top of two identical ramps, each with identical twists and turns and ending in the same spot. Now imagine that one of the balls has a force applied to it that makes it go down the ramp and wind up at the bottom. The ball still at the top represents a non-rapist while the ball now at the bottom represents a rapist. The fact that the ball is at the bottom represents that rape occurred, but the specific details of the process by which the ball wound up there (how fast it went, changes in acceleration, changes in trajectory, etc.) represent the specific details of to whom, when, where, and how the rape occurred.
IF we ask “Why is one ball at the top and the other at the bottom?”, this is like asking “What differs between rapists and non-rapists?”. The answer lies entirely in what is different between the two situations. For the balls, the difference is the force that pushed the ball off its perch and started it down the ramp. For rapists, it would be the psychological differences that motivate rape rather than normal consensual sex. This is where things like “power” and “dominance” come in, but also (as other cited research shows) things like lack of empathy, lack of awareness of the extreme harm done, presence of false beliefs that women enjoy rape, and anger. However, if we ask a very different questions of why did the actual event (the process of the ball going down the ramp, or the who, when, where, and how of rape) unfold the way it did?, then the answer is no longer just about how the two balls differ or how the rapist and non-rapist differ. Now, the answer relies heavily on the things that are actually the same between the two. The precise shape of the ball, the material its made of, smoothness of surface, its mass, the same feature of the ramp, etc.. All of these things about the ball at the bottom are “normal” and the same as the ball still at the top, but they played a huge role in determining how exactly the ball got to the bottom, even though that differential force at the top was a critical ingredient in the process happening at all. This maps onto to whom, when, where, and how rapes occur. Normal aspects of human psychology and sexuality, the same one’s that play a role in consensual sex play a determining role in the details of rape. Questions about these details cannot be answered just by focusing on what makes rapists different, but also what makes them the same, including normal sexual arousal responses, and how those factors interact with each other. Finally, how much normal psychology goes into a particular rape event is likely to correspond (negative) to how extreme and abnormal the event is relative to normal human interaction. This maps onto our discussions about the varying types of rape and the corresponding varying influence of power issues and sexual arousal. Average normal people have intoxicated sex. It happens pervasively all the time and is happening in countless places right now among people who never have and never will rape. Some rape acts differs from these situations only in the level of intoxication and how “out of it” the other person is. It is a critical difference from a moral and legal standpoint, but from a psychological standpoint the difference is much smaller than the differences of violent, pull-you-in-van, serial rape acts. Thus, pretty much everything known in psychology would predict that the psychology of the former rapists and the factors underlying his behavior are more shaped by the psychology of normal, non-rape acts compared to the psychology underlying the more abnormal behavior of the latter types of rape.
 
There are many more types of rapists than you just described. What they all have in common is that they get off--not just sexually--on forcing themselves upon their victim who may or may not be female.
 
I alluded to this problem with how research on rapists is often misapplied to causes of particular rape events, but it deserves more direct attention because I think it represents an honest reasoning error among those discounting the relevance of sexuality to rape. Most of the research underlying claims about “Rape is about power” focuses upon the things that differ between rapists and non-rapists, the ways in which they are abnormal. While relevant to understanding what allows a person to ever rape at all compared to only engage in consensual sex, it is of more limited use (and somewhat misleading) in understanding the causal determinants of the particular details of to whom, when, under what circumstances, where, and how a particular rape occurs. Thus, while the abnormalities of rapists are important for treatment of the rapist themselves, they are of limited utility in rape prevention strategies for potential victims they cannot hope to eliminate potential rapists from their environment or avoid any person with power issues, but can do things to reduce the odds that they personally are the victim of a rapist.
The reason why the abnormalities of rapists are an insufficient source of information about the causes of particular aspects of a rape event is because the rapist are still human and still normal in most ways and thus their behaviors, including sexual ones, are still heavily shaped by the ways in which they are normal and similar to non-rapists interacting with the ways in which they differ. This principle actually applies not just to the behavior of people but of objects, so we can illustrate the issue with an analogy to a basic physics problem and building a causal model of the motion of a specific object. Imagine two identical balls perched at the top of two identical ramps, each with identical twists and turns and ending in the same spot. Now imagine that one of the balls has a force applied to it that makes it go down the ramp and wind up at the bottom. The ball still at the top represents a non-rapist while the ball now at the bottom represents a rapist. The fact that the ball is at the bottom represents that rape occurred, but the specific details of the process by which the ball wound up there (how fast it went, changes in acceleration, changes in trajectory, etc.) represent the specific details of to whom, when, where, and how the rape occurred.
IF we ask “Why is one ball at the top and the other at the bottom?”, this is like asking “What differs between rapists and non-rapists?”. The answer lies entirely in what is different between the two situations. For the balls, the difference is the force that pushed the ball off its perch and started it down the ramp. For rapists, it would be the psychological differences that motivate rape rather than normal consensual sex. This is where things like “power” and “dominance” come in, but also (as other cited research shows) things like lack of empathy, lack of awareness of the extreme harm done, presence of false beliefs that women enjoy rape, and anger. However, if we ask a very different questions of why did the actual event (the process of the ball going down the ramp, or the who, when, where, and how of rape) unfold the way it did?, then the answer is no longer just about how the two balls differ or how the rapist and non-rapist differ. Now, the answer relies heavily on the things that are actually the same between the two. The precise shape of the ball, the material its made of, smoothness of surface, its mass, the same feature of the ramp, etc.. All of these things about the ball at the bottom are “normal” and the same as the ball still at the top, but they played a huge role in determining how exactly the ball got to the bottom, even though that differential force at the top was a critical ingredient in the process happening at all. This maps onto to whom, when, where, and how rapes occur. Normal aspects of human psychology and sexuality, the same one’s that play a role in consensual sex play a determining role in the details of rape. Questions about these details cannot be answered just by focusing on what makes rapists different, but also what makes them the same, including normal sexual arousal responses, and how those factors interact with each other. Finally, how much normal psychology goes into a particular rape event is likely to correspond (negative) to how extreme and abnormal the event is relative to normal human interaction. This maps onto our discussions about the varying types of rape and the corresponding varying influence of power issues and sexual arousal. Average normal people have intoxicated sex. It happens pervasively all the time and is happening in countless places right now among people who never have and never will rape. Some rape acts differs from these situations only in the level of intoxication and how “out of it” the other person is. It is a critical difference from a moral and legal standpoint, but from a psychological standpoint the difference is much smaller than the differences of violent, pull-you-in-van, serial rape acts. Thus, pretty much everything known in psychology would predict that the psychology of the former rapists and the factors underlying his behavior are more shaped by the psychology of normal, non-rape acts compared to the psychology underlying the more abnormal behavior of the latter types of rape.

WOW That is one mighty big block of text.
 
Thus, “rape is all about power, and not about sex” is not scientifically supported and is in fact refuted and just as wrong as “Rape is only about sex, and has nothing to do with power”

That is what the PubMed article is saying. ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/910975 )

In any case, the human mind can be very twisted. This is not a surprise, since primates are known to use sex as an instrument to social ends (read: power and building relationships i.e. power once more). The social part does not preclude reproduction. But heck, if you're going to spread your genes, might as well succeed in getting them and/or yourself to a good social spot.
 
Thus, “rape is all about power, and not about sex” is not scientifically supported and is in fact refuted and just as wrong as “Rape is only about sex, and has nothing to do with power”

That is what the PubMed article is saying. ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/910975 )

In any case, the human mind can be very twisted. This is not a surprise, since primates are known to use sex as an instrument to social ends (read: power and building relationships i.e. power once more). The social part does not preclude reproduction. But heck, if you're going to spread your genes, might as well succeed in getting them and/or yourself to a good social spot.
According to the article all the rapes in the study could be categorized as either power rapes or rage rapes. None were about sex but sex was used to serve either of the two non sexual needs.
 
Sexual needs and wants are two separate things. In my youth sex was forever on my mind 24/7. A few times I even got an erection by seeing a beautiful girl wearing a short mini skirt. But did I ever contemplate grabbing such a girl and forcing her to have sex with me? It never once occurred to me, never crossed my mind. I regard myself as quite an average male, but like most I would rather walk away from trouble than confront it. For a man to force himself on a helpless woman is the pits. This type of guy is prone to violence and thinks himself superior to his peers.
 
Given all the evidence cited in this thread, would someone please explain this:

Rape suspect found sleeping in victim’s bed

The victim, who is 88, told police she was asleep and awakened by a man who climbed into her bed and repeatedly raped her over several hours. When he fell asleep, the victim ran out of her Cherry Street home and alerted neighbors, who called police, Gallow said.
 
Given all the evidence cited in this thread, would someone please explain this:

Rape suspect found sleeping in victim’s bed

The victim, who is 88, told police she was asleep and awakened by a man who climbed into her bed and repeatedly raped her over several hours. When he fell asleep, the victim ran out of her Cherry Street home and alerted neighbors, who called police, Gallow said.

What an asshole. I can understand taking a couple of hours to rape somebody, but what kind of dickhead goes and sleeps in someone else's bed? That's just rude.
 
Why, granny panties, of course. Phhhhhhhhhhhrow!!
Slut.
Again, what was granny wearing? Here is a classic case of power over the victim not sexual urges.

Its a classic case of ideologues who don't care about real evidence focussing on an anecdotal cases and disregarding the fact that this case is the rarity of this exception proves the rule. It is identical to those who point to their 100 year old grandpa who smoked 2 packs a day his whole live as evidence that "lung cancer is not about smoking".

80% or rape victims are under 31 years old, and females 16-19 are 4 times as likely to get raped as the rest of the population, and women over 50 are 10 times less likely to be raped than women 20-50.. I wonder why that is??? I'm sure it is pure coincidence that those age ranges are also who non-rapists are more sexually attracted to and that's why they get all of the modelling work and actress jobs. It can't be because younger women are more sexually attractive to most men and that the very same factor that makes men want to have consensual sex with them also impacts the desire to target them for rape? No, that is far too simple, parsimonious, rational, and consistent with the fact that rapists are humans impacted mostly by all the same things normal humans are. I'm sure there is some post-hoc invented bullshit excuse that could be invented to make it seem like the it is somehow a greater show of "power" to rape an 19 year old than a 40 year old.

So great, you can claim this case as one in which power was the driving force and not sexual attraction, so long as you use the same reasoning to admit that the vast majority of rapes conform to a pattern of age-of-victims that is better predicted by sexual arousal and attraction playing a critical role in victim selection.
 
Why, granny panties, of course. Phhhhhhhhhhhrow!!
Slut.
Again, what was granny wearing? Here is a classic case of power over the victim not sexual urges.

Its a classic case of ideologues who don't care about real evidence focussing on an anecdotal cases and disregarding the fact that this case is the rarity of this exception proves the rule. It is identical to those who point to their 100 year old grandpa who smoked 2 packs a day his whole live as evidence that "lung cancer is not about smoking".

80% or rape victims are under 31 years old, and females 16-19 are 4 times as likely to get raped as the rest of the population, and women over 50 are 10 times less likely to be raped than women 20-50.. I wonder why that is??? I'm sure it is pure coincidence that those age ranges are also who non-rapists are more sexually attracted to and that's why they get all of the modelling work and actress jobs. It can't be because younger women are more sexually attractive to most men and that the very same factor that makes men want to have consensual sex with them also impacts the desire to target them for rape? No, that is far too simple, parsimonious, rational, and consistent with the fact that rapists are humans impacted mostly by all the same things normal humans are. I'm sure there is some post-hoc invented bullshit excuse that could be invented to make it seem like the it is somehow a greater show of "power" to rape an 19 year old than a 40 year old.

So great, you can claim this case as one in which power was the driving force and not sexual attraction, so long as you use the same reasoning to admit that the vast majority of rapes conform to a pattern of age-of-victims that is better predicted by sexual arousal and attraction playing a critical role in victim selection.

According to the DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics, most males who attempt sexual assault or rape against female victims are white guys (70%) and most are over the age of 30. Alcohol and/or drug use was involved in only about 40 percent of the cases. Most attackers are known to the victim to some degree but most are not intimate partners.

Perhaps what makes these victims so attractive to would be rapists is the very fact that they are young and not as powerful. Easy access to victims by rapists certainly is a bonus, made greater by implied levels of trust.

Young victims--teenagers, in fact, are most common. That is correct. Black girls are more likely to be raped than white girls. Yet most models and actresses--those you deem as 'most sexually attractive' are not black and are not teenagers. So, what is it that you think makes those victims most attractive to their attackers: that they resemble the images in media? Or that they are close by and can't get away and are less strong--not even full grown, in fact.

It seems to me that most rapists target victims they see as easy to overcome, vulnerable, easy targets less likely to be able to fight back. So, that's what you claim is so sexually attractive that rapists just can't help themselves?
 
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