An Unbelievable Story of Rape

[Toni]

So when Derec is brought up on charges of knowingly falsely reporting that someone falsely reported a crime, what is the punishment. Right now the computer says Divide by 0 error.

Pretty sure that's a death penalty case because it has a gravitational well that pulls in all false reports and therefore all crimes and he has to answer for the whole lot.

I say Loren stands trial with him, as a co-conspirator. Same crime/same penalty.

 

[RavenSky]

2) The penalty for filing a false police report of a rape is only a misdemeanor!!! It needs to be a felony of the same degree that rape is. Women are putting innocent men in jail and ruining their lives. There should be a penalty for even trying to file a rape claim.. Women must then prove themselves as having provided a true statement to avoid mandatory jail time.

I'd make the penalty for a knowingly false police report automatically be treated as the crime thus falsely reported.

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

 

[Rhea]

I'd make the penalty for a knowingly false police report automatically be treated as the crime thus falsely reported.

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

Good point! And you can just blame the person making the false-claim claim as bringing it on themselves for wearing a penis in public. And leave their claim and its evidence on the shelf for 10 or 20 years.


That works.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'd make the penalty for a knowingly false police report automatically be treated as the crime thus falsely reported.

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

I suppose you believe that people don't knowingly lie about reporting that someone knowingly lied about someone reporting someone knowingly lied.

 

[Derec]

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

False rape accusations are already virtually never prosecuted. Not even Crystal Magnum was prosecuted!
Which means that Marie must have acted really shady for police to bother prosecuting her.

 

[laughing dog]

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

False rape accusations are already virtually never prosecuted. Not even Crystal Magnum was prosecuted!
Which means that Marie must have acted really shady for police to bother prosecuting her.

No it doesn't. This is not the same police force or DA as the other cases in your hobby horse list.

 

[Derec]

No it doesn't. This is not the same police force or DA as the other cases in your hobby horse list.

No, but false rape accusations are almost never prosecuted throughout the US. So it doesn't matter which police force/DA we are talking about. Unless you think police acted maliciously Marie led them to believe she was lying about her rape.

 

[RavenSky]

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

False rape accusations are already virtually never prosecuted...

Neither are real rapes

Which means that Marie must have acted really shady for police to bother prosecuting her.

Or more likely - that the prosecutor involved was named "Derec"

 

[RavenSky]

No it doesn't. This is not the same police force or DA as the other cases in your hobby horse list.

No, but false rape accusations are almost never prosecuted throughout the US.

and neither are real rapes

So it doesn't matter which police force/DA we are talking about. Unless you think police acted maliciously Marie led them to believe she was lying about her rape.

The cop DID act maliciously. He BULLIED her.

But leave it to you to blame her.

 

[Derec]

and neither are real rapes

They are prosecuted much more frequently than false claims of rape.

But leave it to you to blame her.

Not so much blame her, but I do not think police were malicious either. They really thought she was lying. As I said, I do not blame her - she seems to have some psychological problems which is why she seemed "off". It was a tragic mistake by police, but I see no malice.

 

[Arctish]

They are prosecuted much more frequently than false claims of rape.

But leave it to you to blame her.

Not so much blame her, but I do not think police were malicious either. They really thought she was lying. As I said, I do not blame her - she seems to have some psychological problems which is why she seemed "off". It was a tragic mistake by police, but I see no malice.

I don't think malice is the right word to describe the cops behavior.

The cops succeeded in badgering and frightening her into retracting her original report, but after she went home she found the moxie to come back again and report that she really had been raped. At that point the cops came down on her hard. The sought to have her charged, which she eventually was. They forced her to recant in court through a plea bargain to ensure she would not continue to say she was raped.

I think the cops were determined to make the retraction the final word on Marie's case, and I think their ready dismissal of the first call from another police department that noticed similarities with another rape shows it pretty clearly. For whatever reason they believed she was making it all up, and that was that.

 

[RavenSky]

They are prosecuted much more frequently than false claims of rape.

Proportionately, far fewer rapes are prosecuted.

But leave it to you to blame her.

Not so much blame her, but I do not think police were malicious either. They really thought she was lying. As I said, I do not blame her - she seems to have some psychological problems which is why she seemed "off". It was a tragic mistake by police, but I see no malice.

You are blaming her. Her reactions to her rape were not "off". If you had bothered to read the articles linked in this thread, you would know that. Had the police and her idiot foster mother bothered to get the training both should have had, they would have known that, too. And the police ARE 100% to blame for their bullying. That was pure malice.

Stop blaming the victim.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'd make the penalty for a knowingly false police report automatically be treated as the crime thus falsely reported.

So when Derec is brought up on charges of knowingly falsely reporting that someone falsely reported a crime, what is the punishment. Right now the computer says Divide by 0 error.


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He didn't file such a police report.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Proportionately, far fewer rapes are prosecuted.

But leave it to you to blame her.

Not so much blame her, but I do not think police were malicious either. They really thought she was lying. As I said, I do not blame her - she seems to have some psychological problems which is why she seemed "off". It was a tragic mistake by police, but I see no malice.

You are blaming her. Her reactions to her rape were not "off". If you had bothered to read the articles linked in this thread, you would know that. Had the police and her idiot foster mother bothered to get the training both should have had, they would have known that, too. And the police ARE 100% to blame for their bullying. That was pure malice.

Stop blaming the victim.

Was the $500.00 refund to stop a massive lawsuit? The police have an inherent problem of assuming some people are guilty because they think they are. Sifting through evidence even if there are inconsistencies is still essential. Some are stupid and assume guilt and then tailor their investigations accordingly.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'd make the penalty for a knowingly false police report automatically be treated as the crime thus falsely reported.

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

Keyword: "knowingly". Being mistaken isn't a crime. Telling the police something you know to be false is.

 

[laughing dog]

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

Keyword: "knowingly". Being mistaken isn't a crime. Telling the police something you know to be false is.

Being mistaken is also not lying. Prove beyond a reasonable doubt this woman told the police something she KNEW to be false freely and without being under duress. If you cannot, you really should STFU.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They are prosecuted much more frequently than false claims of rape.

But leave it to you to blame her.

Not so much blame her, but I do not think police were malicious either. They really thought she was lying. As I said, I do not blame her - she seems to have some psychological problems which is why she seemed "off". It was a tragic mistake by police, but I see no malice.

Wow. What type of character does it take for a person to remark that a woman who was abused as a child, and then just recently was brutally sexually assaulted has "psychological problems" because of the way she reacted?

Seems quite inhuman.

 

[coloradoatheist]

They are prosecuted much more frequently than false claims of rape.

Not so much blame her, but I do not think police were malicious either. They really thought she was lying. As I said, I do not blame her - she seems to have some psychological problems which is why she seemed "off". It was a tragic mistake by police, but I see no malice.

Wow. What type of character does it take for a person to remark that a woman who was abused as a child, and then just recently was brutally sexually assaulted has "psychological problems" because of the way she reacted?

Seems quite inhuman.

Unfortunately the only way we could really tell is from the questioning interviews but we don't have them.

 

[Malintent]

Not sure what this discussion is about, then... OP says read the article and discuss.. no input, commentary, or any guidance as to what the point should be. so, I posted one of many possible impressions that can be taken from reading the entire serial rapist stories. It could be a mini series. However, the OP was barely a caption.

So like several posters before you, you didn't read the OP article but you're commenting on what you suppose it might say that could be used in support of an assertion you wish to make, and the rest of us can ignore your posts until it becomes apparent you have read it and understand the topic of this thread.

Your false accusation that I didn't read the report should be responded to in kind... but I have a higher moral standard than you, so I wont.

 

[Malintent]

I'd make the penalty for a knowingly false police report automatically be treated as the crime thus falsely reported.

Which means - in the case of rape - virtually never prosecuted

The op you linked does not support that. There were, what, 5 serial rapes reported? 4 were investigated correctly and 1 was not... the 1 that was from the mentally ill girl.
And the criminal was caught, prosecuted, and arrested.