They All Look Alike

[ZiprHead]

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WATCH: Cops Tase black man mistaken for suspect — then arrest him for asking questions

 

[Loren Pechtel]

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WATCH: Cops Tase black man mistaken for suspect — then arrest him for asking questions

It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name? At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong. He's resisting, he gets tased.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

 

[whichphilosophy]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/watch-cops-tase-black-man-mistaken-for-suspect-then-arrest-him-for-asking-questions/

WATCH: Cops Tase black man mistaken for suspect — then arrest him for asking questions

The police should have asked him for his ID in the first place, before arresting him only to discover he was the wrong person. Don't they do this in police training school.

 

[Will Wiley]

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It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name? At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong. He's resisting, he gets tased.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

The guys in uniform aren't intelligent enough or responsible enough to serve as police officers. At the very least they should be forced to carry a photo of the person they are looking for.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

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It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name?

No.

At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong.

What weapon?

He's resisting, he gets tased.

He is insisting on being treated like a citizen with rights.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

I'm sure your hope springs eternal.

Do you think these two men look alike?



They don't to me, but then again, I'm one of THEM. Maybe the police should taze me too, along with my 70 year old mother in law and her 90 year old Aunt. Evidently we all look alike to the police, and to you too Loren.

 

[Deepak]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/watch-cops-tase-black-man-mistaken-for-suspect-then-arrest-him-for-asking-questions/

It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name? At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong. He's resisting, he gets tased.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

 

[Derec]

He is insisting on being treated like a citizen with rights.

Yeah, police love that.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

He is insisting on being treated like a citizen with rights.

Yeah, police love that.

You do know Breaking Bad isn't a documentary, right?

 

[Mumbles]

It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name? At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong. He's resisting, he gets tased.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

Actually, I wouldn't be shocked if he did somehow "violate his parole". Parole terms can be harsh and arbitrary, so it's possible that a judge would claim that, say, he didn't comply with the officer's orders, despite the fact that he obviously did.

 

[Deepak]

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

Actually, I wouldn't be shocked if he did somehow "violate his parole". Parole terms can be harsh and arbitrary, so it's possible that a judge would claim that, say, he didn't comply with the officer's orders, despite the fact that he obviously did.

Probation (for a drug offence) not parole, and it seems like he actually has a competent lawyer here. https://photographyisnotacrime.com/...ong-man-after-he-properly-identifies-himself/

I'd normally agree with you, but considering that he did answer the cop truthfully, and having just come back from a visit to his PO had good reason to believe that there wasn't a warrant out for his arrest, and as the video shows the officer didn't make a good faith attempt to identify that the person he was arresting was in fact the person named in the warrant I think Mumford has a pretty good argument. We'll see where things go in this post-Dallas environment, but the totality of circumstances would have any reasonable prosecutor (or PO) looking the other way on this one IMO.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

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The police should have asked him for his ID in the first place, before arresting him only to discover he was the wrong person. Don't they do this in police training school.

His conduct warranted arrest quite apart from the ID issue.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name? At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong. He's resisting, he gets tased.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

The issue is how he answered--it sounded false.

 

[Rhea]

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

The issue is how he answered--it sounded false.

"I don't know! Just... fly casual!" - Han Solo


but seriously? "I don't like your tone, boy!" ???

 

[AthenaAwakened]

The police should have asked him for his ID in the first place, before arresting him only to discover he was the wrong person. Don't they do this in police training school.

His conduct warranted arrest quite apart from the ID issue.

No, it didn't.

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The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

The issue is how he answered--it sounded false.

No, it didn't.

 

[fromderinside]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/wat...suspect-then-arrest-him-for-asking-questions/

It's not a matter of all looking alike, but rather that old pictures don't always match what someone looks like now.

And given his response when asked his name isn't it reasonable for the cops to think he's their man and giving a false name? At that point it's reasonable for the cops to want him out of his car before continuing things--less opportunity to grab a weapon if it goes wrong. He's resisting, he gets tased.

And I wouldn't be one bit surprised if his actions violated his probation.

So rather than gather evidence the cops are supposed to assume he's a villain. Great. New protocols needed for policing. We con't hunt slogans we hunt humans who've done bad things.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

The issue is how he answered--it sounded false.

"I don't know! Just... fly casual!" - Han Solo


but seriously? "I don't like your tone, boy!" ???

Answering While Black

 

[laughing dog]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/watch-cops-tase-black-man-mistaken-for-suspect-then-arrest-him-for-asking-questions/

WATCH: Cops Tase black man mistaken for suspect — then arrest him for asking questions

What's the problem? He could have ended up like Philando Castile.

 

[Will Wiley]

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

The issue is how he answered--it sounded false.

Clearly there are quite a few men in the police who think just like you. Yet if we take this forum as an example your views are extreme.
Could the problem be people with extreme views in the police?

Maybe they are being trained wrongly?

How many police forces in the US are trained by Israelis, for example? I'm sure I've heard that some are

 

[Crazy Eddie]

They treat black people the way Israelis treat Palestinians and then act all surprised when black people start shooting at them from sniper nests...

 

[RavenSky]

The cop asked his name and he provided a reasonable answer to such a question. If the cop was concerned about identifying him, which he wasn't, he would have asked for ID as he claimed he did 3 4 times.

What action exactly do you think violated his probation?

The issue is how he answered--it sounded false.

Of course you think so Loren