Hillary and the 9/11 ceremony

[Trausti]

Either the health of a candidate matters or it doesn't.

Nope. Your response is an example of the fallacy of the excluded middle. And, it ignores the VP effect. But I realize rationality is lost on Clinton haters and Trump supporters.

Laughing dog a hypocrite? I am shocked!

 

[ZiprHead]

Is it true that we had a President who was shot nearly point-blank in the chest?

A lot of people questioned if he was fit to serve any more. It's good we did the prudent thing and pressured him to resign and let someone younger and fitter do the job for the next seven years.

Being shot in the chest is survivable. Trace Adkins - a country singer who was on Trump's show The Celebrity Apprentice - was shot in the chest once. Bullet passed through both lungs and his heart. He played a show in town just a few weeks ago. He's a bit of a grouch, but otherwise okay.

Pneumonia is also survivable. I've had it many time due to being a smoker. A quick round of antibiotics and a few days rest and she'll be alright.

 

[Trausti]

Campaign confirms Clinton has pneumonia.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-leaves-911-ceremony-after-feeling-overheated

You really believe that shit?

http://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/pneumonia/symptoms-causes-and-risk.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

 

[untermensche]

Is Hillary Clinton Right About Trump Supporters? This Is What The Polling Data Says

The polling data reveals that there is a substantial number of Trump supporters that are bigoted, intolerant, or worse.

Is percentage, as Clinton suggested, about 50 percent? That depends on how you define the various forms of bigotry within the Trump coalition. But, based on the polling, Clinton appears to be more likely to be downplaying the issue than overstating it.

https://thinkprogress.org/is-hillary-clinton-right-about-trump-supporters-this-is-what-the-polling-data-says-2b37625a1df3#.lwrt6t7we

 

[ZiprHead]

Campaign confirms Clinton has pneumonia.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-leaves-911-ceremony-after-feeling-overheated

You really believe that shit?

http://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/pneumonia/symptoms-causes-and-risk.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

What's not to believe?

 

[untermensche]

You really believe that shit?

http://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/pneumonia/symptoms-causes-and-risk.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

What's not to believe?

It's called I'm an expert on pneumonia because I read one article about it.

 

[Trausti]

What's not to believe?

It's called I'm an expert on pneumonia because I read one article about it.

Where's the symptom that leads to her collapsing like Weekend at Bernie's? And why, after the press catches up with her later, does she comment on how nice the weather is? Don't be so gullible.

 

[RavenSky]

Hillary is in good health. She may not have been drinking enough fluids prior to the event, or maybe her clothing was too warm or she was standing in direct sunlight. She's fine now. I see this as another stupid, sexist attempt to try and make a very qualified candidate look bad. We know nothing about Trump's health except that he exhibits many symptoms of mental illness and apparently suffers from sleep deprivation, since he spends a lot of time sending tweets in the middle of the night. Sleep deprivation can lead to serious health issues, and I find Trump's symptoms a lot more of a potential problem than Clinton getting a little overheated at an outdoor event. .

All of that.

HRC was diagnosed last Friday with pneumonia, yet still outperforms the Big Cheeto

 

[untermensche]

It's called I'm an expert on pneumonia because I read one article about it.

Where's the symptom that leads to her collapsing like Weekend at Bernie's? And why, after the press catches up with her later, does she comment on how nice the weather is? Don't be so gullible.

The symptom is called weakness.

A common feature of pneumonia.

 

[ZiprHead]

Where's the symptom that leads to her collapsing like Weekend at Bernie's? And why, after the press catches up with her later, does she comment on how nice the weather is? Don't be so gullible.

Did you not read your own link?

•Loss of appetite, low energy, and fatigue

As I said, I've had a lot of experience with pneumonia. I was the regional coordinator for a delivery service and had to work through one of my bouts because no one was available to cover my routes and I couldn't get in to see my doctor to get treated. I damn near collapsed picking up a run at the local airport after I finished loading. Most of my job was just sitting behind the wheel. Being a presidential candidate, IMO, is much more grueling.

 

[laughing dog]

Nope. Your response is an example of the fallacy of the excluded middle. And, it ignores the VP effect. But I realize rationality is lost on Clinton haters and Trump supporters.

Laughing dog a hypocrite? I am shocked!

No hypocrisy there. The importance of a candidate's health depends on many factors. You seem incapable of understanding that in a complex world, reality is rarely simple.

 

[Deepak]

Did you not read your own link?

•Loss of appetite, low energy, and fatigue

As I said, I've had a lot of experience with pneumonia. I was the regional coordinator for a delivery service and had to work through one of my bouts because no one was available to cover my routes and I couldn't get in to see my doctor to get treated. I damn near collapsed picking up a run at the local airport after I finished loading. Most of my job was just sitting behind the wheel. Being a presidential candidate, IMO, is much more grueling.

The scientists are clearly biased - just follow the money trail. Johns Hopkins also mentions weakness as a symptom, so clearly the conspiracy goes deep. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healthlibrary/conditions/respiratory_disorders/pneumonia_85,P01321/

If you want my opinion she's got Teh Grids

 

[Derec]

For the record, Hillary Clinton is 68 years old. She turns 69 on October 26 of this year. Donald Trump is 70.

She is 68.87 years old, which is properly rounded up, not down.

Not that the HRC haters are going to grant any of these possibilities are reasonable.

Many possibilities are reasonable. But she is of advanced age and has had health problems before.
I think that this is highly unlikely: Clinton Debunks Rumors About Health By Telling Audience Exact Day She Will Die

 

[Derec]

If she is unable to continue because of her health, which is not likely, that's what the chain of succession is for.

If she is already president. My question was about what would happen if she has to withdraw during the campaign.

The woman is not young.

Exactly.

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HRC picked a very competent vice president: Kaine. Kaine would do fine if HRC were to step down.

My question was not whether he would do fine, but whether he would get the nomination automatically of if the party would get a chance to nominate a candidate of their choosing.

 

[repoman]

 

[Derec]

Uh... did you know that HRC's tax returns for the last twenty years have been released and that her medical records are quite public? Apparently you are watching too much faux news.

And you have been watching too much MSNBC if you think that the Clintons are not very secretive in all things. And I don't think her "medical records are quite public". Care to back that up?

Well, one of them is going to win. I hope it's not the cheeto-faced serial con artist, because he'd probably appoint some mini-Putin to the Supreme court.

I agree that Trump would be a bad choice, his good idea with the Wall notwithstanding, but I am concerned about how far left the Dems have moved, especially on things like energy. Obama already killed Keystone XL and is poised to kill DAPL as well, to Putin's (the real deal, not some fantasy of yours) and King Salman's great benefit.

Yeah, that's going to dominate the news cycles... for ten minutes or so. She's not as entertaining as Trumples, and we already know about everything there is to know about her. But her opponent is a mystery - completely incoherent, obviously incompetent and has a fairly well-covered lifelong history of dirty dealings just waiting to be made public.

Amazing how in a thread about Hillary people like you want to make it all about Trump. Almost as if there was some derangement syndrome going around ...

 

[Derec]

Campaigning is grueling.

Yes, and she wants to do it again in 2020, when she is 73.

Much less strenuous than sitting in the White House talking to people.

You do not think governing itself is not grueling? Then why do presidents visibly age in office almost as if they picked a wrong cup in an Indiana Jones movie.

This is really reaching considering Trump fits the physical description of elderly men that have heart attacks.
He is obese and red faced.

And yet he didn't faint and he didn't have a blood clot four years ago. If/when something like that happens to him I am sure we'll have a thread about it.

 

[repoman]

 

[barbos]

Being shot in the chest is survivable. Trace Adkins - a country singer who was on Trump's show The Celebrity Apprentice - was shot in the chest once. Bullet passed through both lungs and his heart. He played a show in town just a few weeks ago. He's a bit of a grouch, but otherwise okay.

Pneumonia is also survivable. I've had it many time due to being a smoker. A quick round of antibiotics and a few days rest and she'll be alright.

Pneumonia is what most otherwise "healthy" but old people die from.
And Hillary is neither smoker nor young. I am bothered by the fact it appears they let her go to the event when it seemed pretty clear that she was sick.

 

[Derec]

Hillary is in good health.

Is she?

She may not have been drinking enough fluids prior to the event, or maybe her clothing was too warm or she was standing in direct sunlight.

This happened at 9:30 in the morning.

I see this as another stupid, sexist attempt to try and make a very qualified candidate look bad.

Oh, please! If this had happened to Trump it would be a big deal as well. It's like with clothes or general appearance. Comment about Edward's and Kerry's expensive haircuts and nobody bats an eye but mention Hillary's expensive haircuts and everybody loses their minds alleging sexism.

We know nothing about Trump's health except that he exhibits many symptoms of mental illness and apparently suffers from sleep deprivation, since he spends a lot of time sending tweets in the middle of the night. Sleep deprivation can lead to serious health issues, and I find Trump's symptoms a lot more of a potential problem than Clinton getting a little overheated at an outdoor event.

Again, if something similar happens to Trump I am sure it will be a big deal media-wise. I don't like Trump either, but this hatred of him is completely overblown, as is the praise for Hillary.

And shit. Gary Johnson didn't even know what Aleppo was.

Still a better candidate than either Hillary or Trump.

Does he never read a newspaper?

Does anybody any more?

He and Trump seem to be very poorly informed candidates when you compare them to Clinton.

Well given that she was SecState it would really be embarassing if she didn't know what Aleppo was. But she doesn't know much about server wiping.