LordKiran
Veteran Member
What a crock. Please provide a quote from ANYBODY on here saying that 'gun bans prevent mass shootings'.
Gun restrictions and tight regulation of gun ownership massively reduces mass shootings.
That makes restricting gun ownership and regulating it tightly a very good idea.
That we should not be "making perfect the enemy of good" is something of a mantra of at least one poster on here:
You're letting perfect be the enemy of good.
... what you are doing it going for perfect--which is as usual the enemy of good.
Guns are NOT banned in Australia nor in England. But they are tightly regulated.
The main benefit of this with regards to illegal guns is that it means that a gun seen by a cop in public is grounds for an arrest; and it means that severe penalties can be imposed on people found with guns in public - even in the absence of any other offence.
When you don't need to prove that the guy with the gun was planning to rob a bank, in order to arrest and charge him, criminals quickly find that carrying (or even owning) a gun is not worth the risk. An English petty criminal doesn't want the risk that a gun will be found if police search his home. A US petty criminal needn't worry - merely finding a gun in his nightstand is not sufficient for the police to drag him off to jail.
In England (and more recently in Australia), this has meant a much smaller number of guns used by criminals, compared with the USA. That's a GOOD THING, even if the decline has not been to zero.
Australian and English hunters and target shooters still have the means available to participate in their chosen sports. What they can't do is go around armed in public. So when road rage strikes, they have to resort to punches, rather than bullets (or blades - knives are also restricted in both jurisdictions).
What a dreadful OP:
Straw Man + Confirmation Bias =/= Logic.
The problem here is that the 'right to bear arms' or rather the romanticist view of it is (Like it or not) an integral part of the American national identity, and is furthermore protected by a legal document who's legal primacy is deeply ingrained in our culture. It's not something that can just be circumvented without consequence, especially now when stability is beginning to deteriorate. The simple truth is that in the US this kind of law would be completely unprecedented and wholely unacceptable for reasons outside of anyone person's control.
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no I asked you to clarify, maybe not formallyYou're the one who's misinterpreting me. -_- Are you trolling me right now?
here:
do you think more injuries and death is caused by legal guns or by illegal guns?
Are we including accidental deaths and injuries in this inquiry? If so it'd be difficult to say as I am not versed in any hard numbers or figures in that regard. If not then I'd say my previous entries here speak for themselves, the issue is that you've simply not understood them. When I say 'Most gun-related crime in America is committed with illegally owned firearms' that's pretty self-explanatory.