Angela Merkel wants to ban the burka?

[bilby]

Australians certainly don't have any rational basis to fear terrorists (of any kind).

That's only because Australia did the right thing and did not let in millions of fakefugees last year alone.

Yeah, right.

And we don't have elephants roaming the streets, because the government spreads invisible elephant powder everywhere.

 

[Trausti]

That's only because Australia did the right thing and did not let in millions of fakefugees last year alone.

Yeah, right.

And we don't have elephants roaming the streets, because the government spreads invisible elephant powder everywhere.

So if several million Muslim Pakistanis migrated to Australia, you don't think the rate of terrorism in Australia would change?

 

[bilby]

Islam is a religion of peace. If only stinky Islamophobes accepted that Western liberals understand Islam better than practicing Muslims. Gosh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll

Oh, come on.

Are you seriously going to believe that Irish Republicans have only carried out 8 terrorist attacks?

Your graph is a joke - it's so obviously not an accurate portrayal of reality that the only way it could possibly be taken seriously is if someone had absolutely zero knowledge of the subject.

Shit, even the pathetic post IRA splinter group that calls itself the 'Real IRA' has committed more than eight attacks.

This kind of shit is unworthy, even by the pathetic standards of modern neo-fascist, post-factual debate. It's an outright, bare-faced and bleeding obvious lie.

 

[Trausti]

Islam is a religion of peace. If only stinky Islamophobes accepted that Western liberals understand Islam better than practicing Muslims. Gosh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll

Oh, come on.

Are you seriously going to believe that Irish Republicans have only carried out 8 terrorist attacks?

Your graph is a joke - it's so obviously not an accurate portrayal of reality that the only way it could possibly be taken seriously is if someone had absolutely zero knowledge of the subject.

Shit, even the pathetic post IRA splinter group that calls itself the 'Real IRA' has committed more than eight attacks.

This kind of shit is unworthy, even by the pathetic standards of modern neo-fascist, post-factual debate. It's an outright, bare-faced and bleeding obvious lie.

You keep throwing around that word "fascist"; yet you're one of posters here who keep making apologies for Islam. Cognitive dissonance without equal.

 

[bilby]

Yeah, right.

And we don't have elephants roaming the streets, because the government spreads invisible elephant powder everywhere.

So if several million Muslim Pakistanis migrated to Australia, you don't think the rate of terrorism in Australia would change?

I don't see why it should. But as that scenario is as plausible as my being attacked by feral elephants, who knows? Anything is possible in alternate realities.

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Oh, come on.

Are you seriously going to believe that Irish Republicans have only carried out 8 terrorist attacks?

Your graph is a joke - it's so obviously not an accurate portrayal of reality that the only way it could possibly be taken seriously is if someone had absolutely zero knowledge of the subject.

Shit, even the pathetic post IRA splinter group that calls itself the 'Real IRA' has committed more than eight attacks.

This kind of shit is unworthy, even by the pathetic standards of modern neo-fascist, post-factual debate. It's an outright, bare-faced and bleeding obvious lie.

You keep throwing around that word "fascist"; yet you're one of posters here who keep making apologies for Islam. Cognitive dissonance without equal.

I take it that you don't actually care to attempt a defence of your mind-bogglingly stupid graph then?

An ad-hominem is less appropriate than a retraction and apology; but perhaps not less expected.

Btw, I have never made any apologies for Islam. It's a stupid and backward belief system that has no place in the modern world. But that's not an excuse for pretending that its adherents are all violent terrorists. Nor is defending Muslims from irrational attacks on their character in any way an apology for Islam. Stereotyping leads to stupidity. Muslims are not terrorists, in the exact same way that Christians and Jews are not terrorists. Of course, plenty of terrorists are Muslims, Christians or Jews.

Your reasoning is fallacious. Banning men from entering the country would be far more effective as an anti-terrorism measure than banning Muslims. But it would be a fucking stupid idea - just as banning Muslims is a fucking stupid idea.

 

[Trausti]

So if several million Muslim Pakistanis migrated to Australia, you don't think the rate of terrorism in Australia would change?

I don't see why it should. But as that scenario is as plausible as my being attacked by feral elephants, who knows? Anything is possible in alternate realities.

Yeah. In retrospect, the Byzantines had nothing to worry about when masses of Muslims migrated to Asia Minor. Didn't change their society at all.

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So if several million Muslim Pakistanis migrated to Australia, you don't think the rate of terrorism in Australia would change?

I don't see why it should. But as that scenario is as plausible as my being attacked by feral elephants, who knows? Anything is possible in alternate realities.

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Oh, come on.

Are you seriously going to believe that Irish Republicans have only carried out 8 terrorist attacks?

Your graph is a joke - it's so obviously not an accurate portrayal of reality that the only way it could possibly be taken seriously is if someone had absolutely zero knowledge of the subject.

Shit, even the pathetic post IRA splinter group that calls itself the 'Real IRA' has committed more than eight attacks.

This kind of shit is unworthy, even by the pathetic standards of modern neo-fascist, post-factual debate. It's an outright, bare-faced and bleeding obvious lie.

You keep throwing around that word "fascist"; yet you're one of posters here who keep making apologies for Islam. Cognitive dissonance without equal.

I take it that you don't actually care to attempt a defence of your mind-bogglingly stupid graph then?

An ad-hominem is less appropriate than a retraction and apology; but perhaps not less expected.

What I find mind mindbogglingly stupid is this attempt by you to apologize, yet again, for Islam. Are you seriously taking a position that Islamic terrorism doesn't eclipse by miles all other forms of political terrorism?

 

[DrZoidberg]

You'd have to stop tourists as well. And any cross-country trade. You didn't think of that, did you? Do you really think it's a good idea to shut down every countries borders because, perhaps, it might prevent terrorist attacks. If you thought it was bad in the Dark Ages, just wait until we do this.

There is a broad spectrum between closing borders entirely and opening them completely, including to unchecked Islamic migration.

What you are engaging in is actually a well known logical fallacy, that of the excluded middle.

Don't change the subject. This isn't about immigration. This is about preventing Muslims to travel to a country to commit Islamic terrorist attacks. They can do that on tourist visa. Known terrorists are already banned from travelling across borders. How's that been working out?

 

[Trausti]

Known terrorists are already banned from travelling across borders. How's that been working out?

They just have to call themselves "refugees" and they get to go right in.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Known terrorists are already banned from travelling across borders. How's that been working out?

They just have to call themselves "refugees" and they get to go right in.

Actually no. Known terrorists will have to acquire fake papers. Which of course is easy. But they're not let right in. Or they can travel on tourist visas. Which is much simpler and easier for them. Like the Paris attackers did.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Islam is a religion of peace. If only stinky Islamophobes accepted that Western liberals understand Islam better than practicing Muslims. Gosh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll

I don't get your graph. What's the time frame we're looking at here, because I can guaran-fucking-tee you there's more than 2 Zionist terrorist attacks in the entire world, in the span of the last 100 years.

Also not that it makes much difference to your point but I notice how your graph leaves out radical christian terror attacks

I'm not sure exactly what's going on as the graph does not appear on the page--since it's a Wikipedia URL I guess someone has edited it out.

However, the page linked does have a huge list of terrorist attacks going back 100 years--but I don't see any radical christian or Zionist ones on the list. If you have good sources update the list.

 

[LordKiran]

Yeah, right.

And we don't have elephants roaming the streets, because the government spreads invisible elephant powder everywhere.

So if several million Muslim Pakistanis migrated to Australia, you don't think the rate of terrorism in Australia would change?

Depends on how its done. The biggest problem with the refugee crisis is ultimately how it was handled. Merkel just said "Hey guys come on over. We don't have anywhere for you to stay or anything for you to do so you'll be sitting around in ghettos and slums loitering and committing petty crimes when you get here."

What Merkel really needed was a plan and some structure. She had neither, so this is what you get. You don't just invite people over. Far better to send your own people to collect them, sift through them, pick and choose the best candidates for integration and then bring them home, preferably to some German equivalent of Elis Island.

 

[bilby]

I don't see why it should. But as that scenario is as plausible as my being attacked by feral elephants, who knows? Anything is possible in alternate realities.

Yeah. In retrospect, the Byzantines had nothing to worry about when masses of Muslims migrated to Asia Minor. Didn't change their society at all.

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So if several million Muslim Pakistanis migrated to Australia, you don't think the rate of terrorism in Australia would change?

I don't see why it should. But as that scenario is as plausible as my being attacked by feral elephants, who knows? Anything is possible in alternate realities.

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Oh, come on.

Are you seriously going to believe that Irish Republicans have only carried out 8 terrorist attacks?

Your graph is a joke - it's so obviously not an accurate portrayal of reality that the only way it could possibly be taken seriously is if someone had absolutely zero knowledge of the subject.

Shit, even the pathetic post IRA splinter group that calls itself the 'Real IRA' has committed more than eight attacks.

This kind of shit is unworthy, even by the pathetic standards of modern neo-fascist, post-factual debate. It's an outright, bare-faced and bleeding obvious lie.

You keep throwing around that word "fascist"; yet you're one of posters here who keep making apologies for Islam. Cognitive dissonance without equal.

I take it that you don't actually care to attempt a defence of your mind-bogglingly stupid graph then?

An ad-hominem is less appropriate than a retraction and apology; but perhaps not less expected.

What I find mind mindbogglingly stupid is this attempt by you to apologize, yet again, for Islam. Are you seriously taking a position that Islamic terrorism doesn't eclipse by miles all other forms of political terrorism?

I am seriously taking the position that you have asserted this without evidence. It's up to you to demonstrate it to be true, or STFU - and the "evidence" you just presented is so obviously utter bullshit that it makes me strongly suspect that you are wrong - If your claim were true, why would you use such obvious nonsense to support it?

I note that you STILL haven't retracted your clearly untrue evidence, nor apologized for posting it. And it's not just wrong - it's WILDLY wrong. No person who can't immediately see that it must be wrong has any business discussing terrorism at all. It shows Irish Republicans as responsible for 8 terrorist attacks; In fact, they carried out at least 10 newsworthy terrorist attacks just in the period from 1971-73, and the number of attacks during the main period of the 'troubles' was in the thousands.

This is a list of notable bombings related to the Northern Ireland "Troubles" and their aftermath. It includes bombings that took place in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain since 1969. There were at least 10,000 bomb attacks during the conflict (1969–1998)

(Source).

The majority of that 'at least 10,000' figure was on the Republican side, But Unionists also carried out a sizable fraction of them. The idea that "Ulster Loyalism" is responsible of just 1 attack is equally crazy.

This is error on the scale of flat-earthism. It's not just wrong, it's so wrong as to severely damage your credibility. And yet you have not retracted nor apologized for it. Why not?

 

[TSwizzle]

The biggest problem with the refugee crisis is ultimately how it was handled.

The biggest problem is that many of them aren't refugees at all.

 

[LordKiran]

The biggest problem with the refugee crisis is ultimately how it was handled.

The biggest problem is that many of them aren't refugees at all.

Neither here nor there in regards to my post.

 

[TSwizzle]

The biggest problem is that many of them aren't refugees at all.

Neither here nor there in regards to my post.

Oh but it is.

 

[LordKiran]

Neither here nor there in regards to my post.

Oh but it is.

Nope.

 

[TSwizzle]

Yup.

 

[LordKiran]

Yup.

If you make it an issue to select people from a specific region rather than inviting everyone in, then by logical conclusion, you wont get people from other regions.

Nice try though.

 

[TSwizzle]

The idea was to help refugees and it turned into a free for all for every chancer from every shitanistan out there. That's a problem.

 

[LordKiran]

The idea was to help refugees and it turned into a free for all for every chancer from every shitanistan out there. That's a problem.

Which isn't related to what I'm saying. I'm saying what they SHOULD have done regardless of what they actually did. Get it now?