Christians: what happens to the souls of unborn children that are aborted?

[PyramidHead]

Do they go straight to heaven?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Do they go straight to heaven?

First off, why do you think unborn have souls?
Biblically, life begins when the spirit enters the body at first breath.
The preborn are pre-ensouled.

 

[PyramidHead]

Do they go straight to heaven?

First off, why do you think unborn have souls?
Biblically, life begins when the spirit enters the body at first breath.
The preborn are pre-ensouled.

I just assumed they must since it's considered such a sin to abort.

 

[Keith&Co.]

First off, why do you think unborn have souls?
Biblically, life begins when the spirit enters the body at first breath.
The preborn are pre-ensouled.

I just assumed they must since it's considered such a sin to abort.

Nowhere does God indicate that it's a sin... That's just something they've added to the theology post-revelation.

 

[PyramidHead]

I just assumed they must since it's considered such a sin to abort.

Nowhere does God indicate that it's a sin... That's just something they've added to the theology post-revelation.

All the same, I'd like to get some input from our Christian members, because I think there's an interesting consequence of their belief that all unborn babies go to heaven, which I could be wrong in thinking they actually believe.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Nowhere does God indicate that it's a sin... That's just something they've added to the theology post-revelation.

All the same, I'd like to get some input from our Christian members, because I think there's an interesting consequence of their belief that all unborn babies go to heaven, which I could be wrong in thinking they actually believe.

Well, yes. If unborn babies go to Heaven when they get slaughtered by psychotic liberals for the sake of evil, then getting aborted is the best thing that can happen to anyone. There is a 100% chance that their soul will spend an eternity in Paradise as opposed to the less than 100% chance there is of this happening if they're born.

While Jesus wants people to make the choice to accept him and get into Heaven that way, he didn't actually get his attorneys to give his covenant with man a once-over and he was therefore stuck with this glaring legal loophole. I get that lawyers' fees can be expensive, but it's just poor judgment to sign contracts without them.

 

[ideologyhunter]

They come back as Phyllis Schlafly, Ann Coulter, and Kelly Ann.

 

[PyramidHead]

All the same, I'd like to get some input from our Christian members, because I think there's an interesting consequence of their belief that all unborn babies go to heaven, which I could be wrong in thinking they actually believe.

Well, yes. If unborn babies go to Heaven when they get slaughtered by psychotic liberals for the sake of evil, then getting aborted is the best thing that can happen to anyone. There is a 100% chance that their soul will spend an eternity in Paradise as opposed to the less than 100% chance there is of this happening if they're born.

While Jesus wants people to make the choice to accept him and get into Heaven that way, he didn't actually get his attorneys to give his covenant with man a once-over and he was therefore stuck with this glaring legal loophole. I get that lawyers' fees can be expensive, but it's just poor judgment to sign contracts without them.

Dude, you stole my thunder! Anyway, that's the point. Christians have no reason to be against abortion. If the souls of the aborted go straight to heaven, all women should be getting pregnant and aborting just to increase the number of people experiencing an eternity of paradise. If the unborn don't have souls yet, then there's nothing wrong with killing them, because a soul is the essence of a person. Even limbo is supposed to be a place of happiness (or at least a place without pain) where they just learn about God until they are ready for heaven. The only reason for Christians to be against abortion is if they believe the unborn are condemned to hell. So, I ask Christians of this forum again: is this what you believe happens to the unborn, and if so why?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Nowhere does God indicate that it's a sin... That's just something they've added to the theology post-revelation.

All the same, I'd like to get some input from our Christian members, because I think there's an interesting consequence of their belief that all unborn babies go to heaven, which I could be wrong in thinking they actually believe.

If it's a *logical* consequence then you've already lost this argument.

 

[Tigers!]

I'll bite.

If you want a clear cut biblical reference as the fate of the unborn I cannot give you that.
In 2 Sam 12:22-23 David notes that his very young son has died and that one day he will join him. (not quite unborn)
In Jer 1:5 the prophet notes that God knew him in the womb before he was born.

These 2 verses can suggest that God is interested in the unborn/very young.
Whether that also means they go straight to heaven I cannot tell you. I believe they will end up there but directly or not i do not know.

 

[PyramidHead]

I'll bite.

If you want a clear cut biblical reference as the fate of the unborn I cannot give you that.
In 2 Sam 12:22-23 David notes that his very young son has died and that one day he will join him. (not quite unborn)
In Jer 1:5 the prophet notes that God knew him in the womb before he was born.

These 2 verses can suggest that God is interested in the unborn/very young.
Whether that also means they go straight to heaven I cannot tell you. I believe they will end up there but directly or not i do not know.

In that case, do you believe abortion is wrong?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I'll bite.

If you want a clear cut biblical reference as the fate of the unborn I cannot give you that.
In 2 Sam 12:22-23 David notes that his very young son has died and that one day he will join him. (not quite unborn)
In Jer 1:5 the prophet notes that God knew him in the womb before he was born.

These 2 verses can suggest that God is interested in the unborn/very young.
Whether that also means they go straight to heaven I cannot tell you. I believe they will end up there but directly or not i do not know.

Well, where else would they go? There's Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. They have to end up somewhere, so where would they be?

 

[Keith&Co.]

I'll bite.

If you want a clear cut biblical reference as the fate of the unborn I cannot give you that.
In 2 Sam 12:22-23 David notes that his very young son has died and that one day he will join him. (not quite unborn)
In Jer 1:5 the prophet notes that God knew him in the womb before he was born.

These 2 verses can suggest that God is interested in the unborn/very young.
Whether that also means they go straight to heaven I cannot tell you. I believe they will end up there but directly or not i do not know.

Well, where else would they go? There's Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. They have to end up somewhere, so where would they be?

Well according to Revelation, no one's getting into Heaven until Judgment day. So mostly the dead are just sitting in their tombs, urns, coffins and shallow unmarked graves in my backyard.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

We have to wait for Judgement Day?

Fucking Sarah Connor, wasting everybody's time by just continually pushing it back.

 

[credoconsolans]

I'll bite.

If you want a clear cut biblical reference as the fate of the unborn I cannot give you that.
In 2 Sam 12:22-23 David notes that his very young son has died and that one day he will join him. (not quite unborn)
In Jer 1:5 the prophet notes that God knew him in the womb before he was born.

These 2 verses can suggest that God is interested in the unborn/very young.
Whether that also means they go straight to heaven I cannot tell you. I believe they will end up there but directly or not i do not know.

Are you sure David didn't mean he'd join his son...in the grave?

I thought early Hebrews didn't believe in an afterlife.

 

[Lion IRC]

Well, yes. If unborn babies go to Heaven when they get slaughtered by psychotic liberals for the sake of evil, then getting aborted is the best thing that can happen to anyone. There is a 100% chance that their soul will spend an eternity in Paradise as opposed to the less than 100% chance there is of this happening if they're born.

While Jesus wants people to make the choice to accept him and get into Heaven that way, he didn't actually get his attorneys to give his covenant with man a once-over and he was therefore stuck with this glaring legal loophole. I get that lawyers' fees can be expensive, but it's just poor judgment to sign contracts without them.

Dude, you stole my thunder! Anyway, that's the point. Christians have no reason to be against abortion. If the souls of the aborted go straight to heaven, all women should be getting pregnant and aborting just to increase the number of people experiencing an eternity of paradise. If the unborn don't have souls yet, then there's nothing wrong with killing them, because a soul is the essence of a person. Even limbo is supposed to be a place of happiness (or at least a place without pain) where they just learn about God until they are ready for heaven. The only reason for Christians to be against abortion is if they believe the unborn are condemned to hell. So, I ask Christians of this forum again: is this what you believe happens to the unborn, and if so why?

This is quite a logical fallacy you've got going on here.

There's lots of starving people - we should put them out of their misery?
Marriage is a good institution - we should let humans and animals get married?
All aborted babies go to heaven - we should abort all pregnancies?


Come on people. You can do better than this.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

You can just say that lives are God's to take and he made a whole commandment prohibiting this exact sort of action, without including an addendum to it on how it wouldn't apply when they would be various consequences.

There's no need to get all snarky about it.

 

[Lion IRC]

Yes, but that wouldn't answer the Op

"Christians: what happens to the souls of unborn children that are aborted?
Do they go straight to heaven?"

"...yes, they go to heaven"

Christians: if that's true, why don't you support abortion?

WAIT WUT?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Why wouldn't that answer the OP?

You think abortion is murder and you're against murder. The fact that certain acts of murder might sometimes have a way to be framed in a positive manner doesn't mean that anybody except God gets to decide who lives and dies.

 

[angelo]

Well, where else would they go? There's Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. They have to end up somewhere, so where would they be?

Well according to Revelation, no one's getting into Heaven until Judgment day. So mostly the dead are just sitting in their tombs, urns, coffins and shallow unmarked graves in my backyard.