Teacher: school's transgender policy violates my religion

[Underseer]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-religious-dispute-teacher-school/672285002/

If you ask Muslims to stop persecuting LGBT, they accuse you of Islamophobia. Thus, if you allow them to persecute LGBT, that is "religious freedom."

Same thing goes for Christians.

If you ask Christians to stop persecuting LGBT, you are "persecuting" Christians. If you allow Christians to abuse or otherwise mistreat LGBT, that is "religious freedom."

And so, the Supreme Court's cake ruling has lead to the inevitable. Expect more.

When I was a child learning about civics, I was always told that your rights stop at the end of your nose. The moment they impact other people's rights, they are no longer your right. Apparently what I was taught is outdated.

If you are a conservative Christian, your rights supercede the basic rights of others, and if anyone asks you to stop abusing others, then you are the "real victim."

 

[Emily Lake]

Seriously, what is wrong with people? This seems like it should be a straightforward fix, and it doesn't need to have anything at all to do with anyone's gender or anything else. Simply call students by whatever name is on their ID. If they want to go by a different name, get the parents to change it with the school. Done. Simple. Fini. No more argument, and no need to even have this scenario come up in the first place.

 

[braces_for_impact]

That is the problem when someone believes that they get their morality from the all powerful, all knowing creator of the universe. It makes it all too easy to justify literally any prejudice you wish, and also makes it harder to change your mind.

 

[couch_sloth]

Seriously, what is wrong with people? This seems like it should be a straightforward fix, and it doesn't need to have anything at all to do with anyone's gender or anything else. Simply call students by whatever name is on their ID. If they want to go by a different name, get the parents to change it with the school. Done. Simple. Fini. No more argument, and no need to even have this scenario come up in the first place.

From reading the article, it seems the name change was done pretty much that way (eg, “...their name is changed in the district's online record keeping system.”), but this instructor still didn’t want to use the student’s new name

 

[laughing dog]

I wonder how he was "forced" to resign.

 

[bilby]

Calling someone by a name they have asked you do not use, rather than by the name they have said they prefer, is simply being an arsehole.

It doesn't matter what their official ID says; My official documents all list my name as 'William', but everyone has always called me 'Bill' since as long as I can recall. Occasionally, someone will call me from a government department and ask for 'William'; I say 'Actually, everyone calls me Bill', and that's the end of it - they start calling me Bill, because that's the polite thing to do when someone asks you to call them by their preferred name.

If I asked them to call me 'Susan', I would expect them to comply with that harmless request, and would think them extremely and unnecessary rude if they did not - because refusing such requests is the behaviour of an arsehole.

A person's name is just an arbitrary noise used to identify them. They get to pick what it is.

 

[Emily Lake]

Seriously, what is wrong with people? This seems like it should be a straightforward fix, and it doesn't need to have anything at all to do with anyone's gender or anything else. Simply call students by whatever name is on their ID. If they want to go by a different name, get the parents to change it with the school. Done. Simple. Fini. No more argument, and no need to even have this scenario come up in the first place.

From reading the article, it seems the name change was done pretty much that way (eg, “...their name is changed in the district's online record keeping system.”), but this instructor still didn’t want to use the student’s new name

Then this instructor is in the wrong... in my opinion at least.

 

[Emily Lake]

Calling someone by a name they have asked you do not use, rather than by the name they have said they prefer, is simply being an arsehole.

It doesn't matter what their official ID says; My official documents all list my name as 'William', but everyone has always called me 'Bill' since as long as I can recall. Occasionally, someone will call me from a government department and ask for 'William'; I say 'Actually, everyone calls me Bill', and that's the end of it - they start calling me Bill, because that's the polite thing to do when someone asks you to call them by their preferred name.

If I asked them to call me 'Susan', I would expect them to comply with that harmless request, and would think them extremely and unnecessary rude if they did not - because refusing such requests is the behaviour of an arsehole.

A person's name is just an arbitrary noise used to identify them. They get to pick what it is.

I started to respond with pretty much this exact position. Then I though "high schoolers" and revised a wee bit. Because if a high-schooler decides that they want you to call them "King of the Bitch Fuckers" instead of "Bill", I think teachers should be allowed to decline. Unless the parents come down to the school and officially change it... in which case if Mom & Dad are okay with their kid being known as "King of the Bitch Fuckers", then well, good luck with life I suppose...