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People that were not born yesterday understand that the criticism of people rising up to protest the crimes of the police is based on racism and nothing else.

The racists think we don't know where their motivations arise from.
They know that claims of oppression get them a much larger sympathy vote from the left than complaints about people of another race.

Who is "they"?

The darkies?

That monolith?

The "new" white nationalists. Their actual positions are unpalatable in the extreme and they know it, so they lie in public and make it about free speech or "reverse racism" or the "regressive left", reserving their thoughts on race for those who they know are friendly to them.
 
Who is "they"?

The darkies?

That monolith?

The "new" white nationalists. Their actual positions are unpalatable in the extreme and they know it, so they lie in public and make it about free speech or "reverse racism" or the "regressive left", reserving their thoughts on race for those who they know are friendly to them.

I suspect that reactions of all kind to the sick white nationalism Trump ran on are possible.
 
Seems I missed Derec's latest Gish-Gallop tantrum...

No, Derec you CAN'T argue - at least not honestly - that the violence between gangs isn't due to the drug war. There would be no disagreements rising to the point of violence between those two groups if they weren't forced to compete over shares of a zero-sum client base in an industry where the only available means of arbitration for such disputes is violence. I suppose prostitution or "protection" turf may also factor into it, but those aren't core moneymakers. In fact the profitability of gangs almost entirely relies on drug sales. No drug wars = no turf conflicts over said drug sales, because there are then legal routes rather than violent routes for conflict resolution.
 
Concisely: Just as alcohol prohibition led to powerful gangsters the same thing happens with drug prohibition. Humans given opportunities don't change.
 
Seems I missed Derec's latest Gish-Gallop tantrum...
No Gish-gallop and no tantrum either. It's simply that I have limited time to post, and so have to write many posts at once when I get a chance. Like today.

No, Derec you CAN'T argue - at least not honestly - that the violence between gangs isn't due to the drug war.
Much of it is, but at the same time there is no indication this particular firefight was about drugs.
And even if it was, it does not justify Pat Pat's behavior. Alcohol should be legal, but that doesn't make St. Valentine's Day massacre ok either.

There would be no disagreements rising to the point of violence between those two groups if they weren't forced to compete over shares of a zero-sum client base in an industry where the only available means of arbitration for such disputes is violence.
Even if we legalized all drugs, these bangers would not become your friendly neighborhood dispensary workers. They would seek other ways to use their skill set - extortion, loan sharking, human trafficking etc.

I suppose prostitution
And yet I do not hear you or your fellow fauxgressives calling for legalizing sex work to undercut gangs.

or "protection" turf may also factor into it, but those aren't core moneymakers. In fact the profitability of gangs almost entirely relies on drug sales. No drug wars = no turf conflicts over said drug sales, because there are then legal routes rather than violent routes for conflict resolution.
Again - if drugs were legal they'd be run by actual licensed businesses. It doesn't matter these other illegal gang businesses have smaller profit margins. If drugs were taken away from them, they'd have to shift more of their activities to other avenues.
And street gang violence is not always about illegal businesses anyway. Crips and Bloods are not Mafia or the Mexican Cartels or Yakuza. Often it's violence for the sake of it.
 
The "new" white nationalists. Their actual positions are unpalatable in the extreme and they know it, so they lie in public and make it about free speech or "reverse racism" or the "regressive left", reserving their thoughts on race for those who they know are friendly to them.
Translation: if you disagree with the Left, you are a "white nationalist" and "racist".

Fact check: there is racism against whites, even if you and your fellow ideologues want to ignore it. And there is a regressive left, but ironically, they usually dub themselves "progressives". It's kind of like North Korea is officially "Democratic People's Republic" and all three of these words are lies.
 
People that were not born yesterday understand that the criticism of people rising up to protest the crimes of the police is based on racism and nothing else.
That's some industrial grade BS.
1. There was no "crime by police" here.
2. The side that assumes the black guy is always the innocent victim is the racist one. By definition.

The racists think we don't know where their motivations arise from.
You are so wrong, you are not even in the same galaxy.
 
These are cool people.
What's "cool" about these people? That they assume police are "racist" because the thug they killed when he pointed a gun at them happened to be black? They they purport to "love" a violent felon whom they likely never met, and if they had, he was more likely to mug them than anything else? That they use slogans made popular by 90s gangsta rap?
I see nothing "cool" about basing your judgment not on facts, but solely on the race of the deceased.

Also, white spaces matter. "Resist anceis happen ingnow" is just bad poster design.

I'd love to hang out and get a beer with them.
No good. Beer has gluten.
 
No Gish-gallop and no tantrum either. It's simply that I have limited time to post, and so have to write many posts at once when I get a chance. Like today.


Much of it is, but at the same time there is no indication this particular firefight was about drugs.
And even if it was, it does not justify Pat Pat's behavior. Alcohol should be legal, but that doesn't make St. Valentine's Day massacre ok either.

There would be no disagreements rising to the point of violence between those two groups if they weren't forced to compete over shares of a zero-sum client base in an industry where the only available means of arbitration for such disputes is violence.
Even if we legalized all drugs, these bangers would not become your friendly neighborhood dispensary workers. They would seek other ways to use their skill set - extortion, loan sharking, human trafficking etc.

I suppose prostitution
And yet I do not hear you or your fellow fauxgressives calling for legalizing sex work to undercut gangs.

or "protection" turf may also factor into it, but those aren't core moneymakers. In fact the profitability of gangs almost entirely relies on drug sales. No drug wars = no turf conflicts over said drug sales, because there are then legal routes rather than violent routes for conflict resolution.
Again - if drugs were legal they'd be run by actual licensed businesses. It doesn't matter these other illegal gang businesses have smaller profit margins. If drugs were taken away from them, they'd have to shift more of their activities to other avenues.
And street gang violence is not always about illegal businesses anyway. Crips and Bloods are not Mafia or the Mexican Cartels or Yakuza. Often it's violence for the sake of it.

Every time prostitution is brought up, I air my belief that it should be legal, with a government imposed prostitute union and prostitution taxes, the former to provide services to prostitutes with regards to monitoring, protection, health services, and client vetting, and the latter to pay for family planning, sexual health services, and safe, secure places venues for it to happen.

The rest is just your bald and unfounded assertion that they would be violent regardless. It is very much NOT in evidence.
 
That car is stupid. the point on the plow and the spikes from the wheels will catch at clothing and flesh and drag people along, decreasing the speed and mobility of the vehicle.

The car was a joke (for Comicon apparently) as was me posting it.

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His response was not only wrong, but illegal. It is hypocritical to expect the police to arrest the protesters for illegal activity but not the driver.
I have already acknowledged that further upthread. But you have yet to admit that these protesters were wrong to block the intersection.
 
Every time prostitution is brought up, I air my belief that it should be legal, with a government imposed prostitute union and prostitution taxes, the former to provide services to prostitutes with regards to monitoring, protection, health services, and client vetting, and the latter to pay for family planning, sexual health services, and safe, secure places venues for it to happen.
I must have mixed you with somebody then.

The rest is just your bald and unfounded assertion that they would be violent regardless. It is very much NOT in evidence.
Well counterfactuals are always tricky, but for example MS13 gang is very violent despite the fact that they do not do much drug running or dealing at all.
 
Every time prostitution is brought up, I air my belief that it should be legal, with a government imposed prostitute union and prostitution taxes, the former to provide services to prostitutes with regards to monitoring, protection, health services, and client vetting, and the latter to pay for family planning, sexual health services, and safe, secure places venues for it to happen.
I must have mixed you with somebody then.

The rest is just your bald and unfounded assertion that they would be violent regardless. It is very much NOT in evidence.
Well counterfactuals are always tricky, but for example MS13 gang is very violent despite the fact that they do not do much drug running or dealing at all.

Yeah, those figments of an orange turd's imagination can be downright VICIOUS.
 
People that were not born yesterday understand that the criticism of people rising up to protest the crimes of the police is based on racism and nothing else.
That's some industrial grade BS.
1. There was no "crime by police" here.
2. The side that assumes the black guy is always the innocent victim is the racist one. By definition.

The racists think we don't know where their motivations arise from.
You are so wrong, you are not even in the same galaxy.

It was blacks that were enslaved, blacks persecuted, blacks denied their rights, blacks tortured for centuries in this nation.

Now we have a drug war to persecute everybody but mostly the poor and mostly inner city youth with little opportunity and poor schools who happen to be disproportionately black.

It is racism to say we have a level playing field and racism to say that whites have not created these ghettos that produce hardened criminals.

It is racism to say we do not have many lingering problems from centuries of insane racism and abuse.
 
Why is a criminal history relevant in justifying a police shooting?
There is a long history of public service by some posters making sure everyone knows the "bona fides" of black shooting victims by the police so that we all understand that the victim merited his/her fate.
 
Why is a criminal history relevant in justifying a police shooting?

It's relevant in the level of fear in some police.

And the problem is not something most police are doing.

It is like so many things a minority of the whole with power that do it.

This is why you control all power.

But getting rid of guns would eliminate a lot of these killings.

Many are caused by exaggerated fear related to the fear of firearms.
 
Why is a criminal history relevant in justifying a police shooting?

It disproves the apologetics family and friends give and that media is quick to disseminate. "Dindu nuffin", "gentle giants spreading the word of Jesus Christ" and all that.
 
Why is a criminal history relevant in justifying a police shooting?

It disproves the apologetics family and friends give and that media is quick to disseminate. "Gentle giants spreading the word of Jesus Christ" and all that.
You realize that your response is a tacit admission that the criminal history is irrelevant in justifying a police shooting.
 
Why is a criminal history relevant in justifying a police shooting?
There is a long history of public service by some posters making sure everyone knows the "bona fides" of black shooting victims by the police so that we all understand that the victim merited his/her fate.

That doesn't apply to just black "victims". However, it is the black people shot by police that always get defended by certain people. Like in this case. Known gang-banger. Shot two people. Pointed gun at police. But somehow the Left insists that he was "murdered by police" because he was black.

By the way, there is a development.
Grand jury rules Portland police officers justified in fatal shooting of Patrick Kimmons

Of course the "he a good boy" crowd are out protesting and blocking traffic again. Unfortunately Ted Wheeler is allowing them to block traffic with impunity. :(
 
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