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The biggest problem for Trump is that he has no buffers for most of what he says. It goes right from his angry brain or emotional thinking
I have news for you, this is also the problem of many of the members on this forum who can't stop obsessing over Donald Trump. You're doing exactly what he prefers you to do.

Seriously, look forward, move forward. You now have the house, get active with ideas instead wallowing around in a pool of emotional anger.
 
The biggest problem for Trump is that he has no buffers for most of what he says. It goes right from his angry brain or emotional thinking
I have news for you, this is also the problem of many of the members on this forum who can't stop obsessing about Donal Trump.

Seriously, look forward, move forward. You now have the house, get active with ideas instead of emotional anger.

What I wrote is rational, not emotional. Trump has left a whole big trail of bread crumbs with documented tweets and all other sorts of things. I am not on trial nor do I have the possibility of being impeached someday and so anything about me is irrelevant. Now, of course, you're right that Dems have the House and can do something. That will also involve at least to some degree Trump's angry trail of bread crumbs.
 
The biggest problem for Trump is that he has no buffers for most of what he says. It goes right from his angry brain or emotional thinking
I have news for you, this is also the problem of many of the members on this forum who can't stop obsessing about Donal Trump.

Seriously, look forward, move forward. You now have the house, get active with ideas instead of emotional anger.

What I wrote is rational, not emotional. Trump has left a whole big trail of bread crumbs with documented tweets and all other sorts of things. I am not on trial nor do I have the possibility of being impeached someday and so anything about me is irrelevant. Now, of course, you're right that Dems have the House and can do something. That will also involve at least to some degree Trump's angry trail of bread crumbs.

If it does, it's already dead in the water.

And what you posted is rational to you and those who are also angry. It's been two years now. Get over it. Let the investigation finish. In the meantime get going on being positive with ideas on moving forward. Quit obsessing.
 
If Trump has done nothing wrong as his local sycophants assert, that will come to light.
One would have to be rather stupid to think that an innocent person would aggressively attempt to obstruct justice as Cheato has done, if the truth was in their favor.
But Trump has made that brand of STUPID very popular, as we see with those on this forum who repeatedly proclaim his innocence, as if they already knew the facts of the case(s).
 
If Trump has done nothing wrong as his local sycophants assert, that will come to light.
One would have to be rather stupid to think that an innocent person would aggressively attempt to obstruct justice as Cheato has done, if the truth was in their favor.
But Trump has made that brand of STUPID very popular, as we see with those on this forum who repeatedly proclaim his innocence, as if they already knew the facts of the case(s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaCNA3pink
 
If it was true that he doesn't have many buffers and is out of his league, why is it so hard to nail him? Because there's nothing there to nail?...or the buffers?
I did explain in the post. It's not that he doesn't get nailed. He gets nailed. He just settles out of court, because his lawyers are all prepared to drag everything out for as long as possible.
I'm inclined to accept the buffer theory.
Seriously, though, if Trump thought in terms of 'buffers' he would have at least appeared to divest himself of his business interests to avoid emolument violations. Funnel the money into accounts he has access to, but not directly under his name.

Trump, instead, behaves as someone who thinks he'll never get caught, or if caught he can just brazen his way out of it. Lie, and throw lawyers at it, until they go away.
Agreed about Federal legal assets, but unless you're advocating a Federal vendetta, then those investigations will stop when it's clear there's nothing to find or that can be proved.
Not a vendetta, but I still don't think Trump wanted or expected to win, so he did not spend nearly enough time covering his backtrail.
The only thing taking time right now is that Mueller wants to nail down absolutely everything before he goes public.
 
I think that Democrats should start concentrating on the 2020 election and stop pretending that the current Senate is going to do a thing about Trump's transgressions.

If Trump's kids are prosecuted of a federal crime, he'll pardon them. If Trump actually was to be impeached and charged with federal crimes, Pence will pardon him.

I doubt he will go to prison, but the only way he will, is if the state of New York finds enough dirt on him to charge him with something criminal.

I'd be happy if he just got out of the WH, and got some help with his mental health issues. But then most people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and hypomania don't have any self awareness.
 
What I wrote is rational, not emotional. Trump has left a whole big trail of bread crumbs with documented tweets and all other sorts of things. I am not on trial nor do I have the possibility of being impeached someday and so anything about me is irrelevant. Now, of course, you're right that Dems have the House and can do something. That will also involve at least to some degree Trump's angry trail of bread crumbs.

If it does, it's already dead in the water.

And what you posted is rational to you and those who are also angry. It's been two years now. Get over it. Let the investigation finish. In the meantime get going on being positive with ideas on moving forward. Quit obsessing.

I don't really have time to talk to you about me. Sorry.
 
If Trump has done nothing wrong as his local sycophants assert, that will come to light.
One would have to be rather stupid to think that an innocent person would aggressively attempt to obstruct justice as Cheato has done, if the truth was in their favor.
But Trump has made that brand of STUPID very popular, as we see with those on this forum who repeatedly proclaim his innocence, as if they already knew the facts of the case(s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaCNA3pink

So you have no response? Cheech and Chong speak for you? I think you provide plenty of comic relief here that you don't have to dredge up professional help.
But that's so very typical of right wing poseurs when facts get in their way...
 
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There's nothing to go down for. They did nothing illegal.

Multiple guilty pleas and convictions months and years before Mueller's investigation is even finished tell a reasonable person that there's more to come. The Trump Tower meeting was clearly illegal, and conspiracy is a crime. Kushner and Don Jr. were both there, and Trump himself admitted the reason for it. Also, as of now, Trump himself is an unindicted co-conspirator with respect to violation of campaign finance laws (see Michael Cohen).

Returning to the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting though, I've looked up the statute in question that makes the event unlawful, and the plain language can be fairly said to be damning (see § 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510)).

You can read it for yourself. It's readily available online. However, what's notable is that there's no case history for the law. On Westlaw, a legal research site, following every statute/regulation at the bottom of the page is a "Decisions of Note" link which takes you to case history so that you can determine how the law in question has been interpreted, under what factual circumstances, what issues were at stake, and what the outcome was.

There's nothing there for this statute. I can't say no one has been prosecuted under this law since it was implemented back in the mid 90s or so, because Westlaw may have decided that no relevant caselaw exists that's worth mentioning in connection with the statute. Or it's possible that it has been brought against a defendant, but not litigated--the defendant pleaded to a lesser charge or the case was dropped. The point of bringing this up is that since the law's passage, not a single U.S. politician has been tried for doing what Don Jr. and Trump himself have now so clearly admitted to. That speaks to their enormous arrogance and willingness to simply disregard a law they had notice of.

There are several other associated statutes in play here as well. That is, if you're charged with A, then you're probably going to be charged with B and C. These appear to be fraud/misrepresentation laws. But I don't have time to look those up and it would get too lengthy anyway.

Seriously, it would serve aniti-Trumpers well to put this silliness behind them. This is what he and his followers feed off. It's time to starve the beast.

The Trump Tower meeting also constitutes conspiracy between the Russians, Kushner, Jr. Trump, and Manafort. Conspiracy is an agreement to commit an illegal act, having the specific intent to commit the object crime, and in most states now, there must be an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. Guess what, there's a federal statute for conspiracy, although the "in furtherance of" requirement is somewhat murky, but that decidedly works against Trump because clearly, the act of meeting with the Russians was an act in furtherance of, even if the federal statute doesn't require it.

I could go on with this stuff. Do you now understand that this isn't "silliness"? And what you also need to begin to consider is what the future ramifications will be if Trump, Jr., and Kushner aren't held to account for these things. Hopefully you'll reflect on that a little.
 
Sessions is gone because he has small balls, unlike Kavanaugh who obviously is proud of his big balls. Trump likes men with big balls and likes to flaunt them. Sessions faked the size of his balls with his "lock her up" participation but then actaully had to expose his balls during the beginning stages of this idiotic Russia probe. What Sessions exposed was tiny balls. If one is not proud enough of the size of his balls, there is no place for them in the Trump Administration.

Thanks for an amusing homoerotic interpretation of the Trump administration but the reality is that Trump has failed in his promise to only hire the best people. How many people have rotated through the Trump administration in less than two years?

It depends what Trump means by "the best people". My interpretation is this means loyal and trusting of Trump as a leader.

Ball suckers.
 
There's nothing to go down for. They did nothing illegal.

Multiple guilty pleas and convictions months and years before Mueller's investigation is even finished tell a reasonable person that there's more to come. The Trump Tower meeting was clearly illegal, and conspiracy is a crime. Kushner and Don Jr. were both there, and Trump himself admitted the reason for it. Also, as of now, Trump himself is an unindicted co-conspirator with respect to violation of campaign finance laws (see Michael Cohen).

Returning to the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting though, I've looked up the statute in question that makes the event unlawful, and the plain language can be fairly said to be damning (see § 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510)).

You can read it for yourself. It's readily available online. However, what's notable is that there's no case history for the law. On Westlaw, a legal research site, following every statute/regulation at the bottom of the page is a "Decisions of Note" link which takes you to case history so that you can determine how the law in question has been interpreted, under what factual circumstances, what issues were at stake, and what the outcome was.

There's nothing there for this statute. I can't say no one has been prosecuted under this law since it was implemented back in the mid 90s or so, because Westlaw may have decided that no relevant caselaw exists that's worth mentioning in connection with the statute. Or it's possible that it has been brought against a defendant, but not litigated--the defendant pleaded to a lesser charge or the case was dropped. The point of bringing this up is that since the law's passage, not a single U.S. politician has been tried for doing what Don Jr. and Trump himself have now so clearly admitted to. That speaks to their enormous arrogance and willingness to simply disregard a law they had notice of.

There are several other associated statutes in play here as well. That is, if you're charged with A, then you're probably going to be charged with B and C. These appear to be fraud/misrepresentation laws. But I don't have time to look those up and it would get too lengthy anyway.

Seriously, it would serve aniti-Trumpers well to put this silliness behind them. This is what he and his followers feed off. It's time to starve the beast.

The Trump Tower meeting also constitutes conspiracy between the Russians, Kushner, Jr. Trump, and Manafort. Conspiracy is an agreement to commit an illegal act, having the specific intent to commit the object crime, and in most states now, there must be an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. Guess what, there's a federal statute for conspiracy, although the "in furtherance of" requirement is somewhat murky, but that decidedly works against Trump because clearly, the act of meeting with the Russians was an act in furtherance of, even if the federal statute doesn't require it.

I could go on with this stuff. Do you now understand that this isn't "silliness"? And what you also need to begin to consider is what the future ramifications will be if Trump, Jr., and Kushner aren't held to account for these things. Hopefully you'll reflect on that a little.

All that ... and I wonder how many truly innocent people have ever been referred to as "un-indicted co-conspirator INDIVIDUAL-1" in a federal indictment. :rolleyes:
 
If Trump actually was to be impeached and charged with federal crimes, Pence will pardon him.
I dunno.
Nixon's pardon was pretty much the end of Ford's career. He made himself a lame duck during his first term. Pence still has ambitions.

I think Pence will use Trump's name a lot when he campaigns, "We have to keep going on Trump's promise," sort of thing. But I also think he's going to stop taking Trump's calls...
 
If Trump actually was to be impeached and charged with federal crimes, Pence will pardon him.
I dunno.
Nixon's pardon was pretty much the end of Ford's career. He made himself a lame duck during his first term. Pence still has ambitions.

I think Pence will use Trump's name a lot when he campaigns, "We have to keep going on Trump's promise," sort of thing. But I also think he's going to stop taking Trump's calls...

Not much Pence could do about SDNY... which is why I expect that to become the major thorn in Cheato's crown.
 
There's nothing to go down for. They did nothing illegal.

Multiple guilty pleas and convictions months and years before Mueller's investigation is even finished tell a reasonable person that there's more to come. The Trump Tower meeting was clearly illegal, and conspiracy is a crime. Kushner and Don Jr. were both there, and Trump himself admitted the reason for it. Also, as of now, Trump himself is an unindicted co-conspirator with respect to violation of campaign finance laws (see Michael Cohen).

Returning to the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting though, I've looked up the statute in question that makes the event unlawful, and the plain language can be fairly said to be damning (see § 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510)).

You can read it for yourself. It's readily available online. However, what's notable is that there's no case history for the law. On Westlaw, a legal research site, following every statute/regulation at the bottom of the page is a "Decisions of Note" link which takes you to case history so that you can determine how the law in question has been interpreted, under what factual circumstances, what issues were at stake, and what the outcome was.

There's nothing there for this statute. I can't say no one has been prosecuted under this law since it was implemented back in the mid 90s or so, because Westlaw may have decided that no relevant caselaw exists that's worth mentioning in connection with the statute. Or it's possible that it has been brought against a defendant, but not litigated--the defendant pleaded to a lesser charge or the case was dropped. The point of bringing this up is that since the law's passage, not a single U.S. politician has been tried for doing what Don Jr. and Trump himself have now so clearly admitted to. That speaks to their enormous arrogance and willingness to simply disregard a law they had notice of.

There are several other associated statutes in play here as well. That is, if you're charged with A, then you're probably going to be charged with B and C. These appear to be fraud/misrepresentation laws. But I don't have time to look those up and it would get too lengthy anyway.

Seriously, it would serve aniti-Trumpers well to put this silliness behind them. This is what he and his followers feed off. It's time to starve the beast.

The Trump Tower meeting also constitutes conspiracy between the Russians, Kushner, Jr. Trump, and Manafort. Conspiracy is an agreement to commit an illegal act, having the specific intent to commit the object crime, and in most states now, there must be an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. Guess what, there's a federal statute for conspiracy, although the "in furtherance of" requirement is somewhat murky, but that decidedly works against Trump because clearly, the act of meeting with the Russians was an act in furtherance of, even if the federal statute doesn't require it.

I could go on with this stuff. Do you now understand that this isn't "silliness"? And what you also need to begin to consider is what the future ramifications will be if Trump, Jr., and Kushner aren't held to account for these things. Hopefully you'll reflect on that a little.

All of this, but also note that the Trump Tower meeting is just an ancillary matter and likely a deliberate "false flag" attempt at distracting from the far deeper connections Trump has had with Putin and/or Russian intelligence going back to the 70's. Aside from all of the money laundering he and his numerous shell companies have conducted on behalf of multiple Russian oligarchs, Trump has been a Russian asset for at least thirty to forty years.

The real story of 2016 most likely begins at the Miss Universe contest in Moscow in 2013. That's when Trump would have first been told to run and that Russia would be actively engaged in putting him into the Oval and likely what strategy to use (i.e., racism) as Russia's propaganda against the US has always focused excessively on our racism (most certainly throughout the Cold War, which Putin played an active role in).

Proving all of that--in the high standard required--may be too difficult, as it would require Russian sources and Putin has more than likely murdered many of them all ready. It would probably come down to what Steele was able to secure and relate (that we haven't seen revealed/leaked yet).
 
He'll fire Mueller and squash the investigation before the next congress is seated.

Thus insuring an impeachment for obstruction of justice. Even a Republican Senate would be unlikely to impede such an impeachment since most are patriots first and Trump supporters second, if at all.

I believe that the failure of the Democratic party is rooted in this type of misplaced faith in human nature.
 
He'll fire Mueller and squash the investigation before the next congress is seated.

Thus insuring an impeachment for obstruction of justice. Even a Republican Senate would be unlikely to impede such an impeachment since most are patriots first and Trump supporters second, if at all.

I believe that the failure of the Democratic party is rooted in this type of misplaced faith in human nature.

And to what do you attribute the failure of the Rethuglican Party?
Democrats flip 43rd state legislative seat since Trump took office
 
Multiple guilty pleas and convictions months and years before Mueller's investigation is even finished tell a reasonable person that there's more to come. The Trump Tower meeting was clearly illegal, and conspiracy is a crime. Kushner and Don Jr. were both there, and Trump himself admitted the reason for it. Also, as of now, Trump himself is an unindicted co-conspirator with respect to violation of campaign finance laws (see Michael Cohen).

Returning to the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting though, I've looked up the statute in question that makes the event unlawful, and the plain language can be fairly said to be damning (see § 110.20 Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510)).

You can read it for yourself. It's readily available online. However, what's notable is that there's no case history for the law. On Westlaw, a legal research site, following every statute/regulation at the bottom of the page is a "Decisions of Note" link which takes you to case history so that you can determine how the law in question has been interpreted, under what factual circumstances, what issues were at stake, and what the outcome was.

There's nothing there for this statute. I can't say no one has been prosecuted under this law since it was implemented back in the mid 90s or so, because Westlaw may have decided that no relevant caselaw exists that's worth mentioning in connection with the statute. Or it's possible that it has been brought against a defendant, but not litigated--the defendant pleaded to a lesser charge or the case was dropped. The point of bringing this up is that since the law's passage, not a single U.S. politician has been tried for doing what Don Jr. and Trump himself have now so clearly admitted to. That speaks to their enormous arrogance and willingness to simply disregard a law they had notice of.

There are several other associated statutes in play here as well. That is, if you're charged with A, then you're probably going to be charged with B and C. These appear to be fraud/misrepresentation laws. But I don't have time to look those up and it would get too lengthy anyway.



The Trump Tower meeting also constitutes conspiracy between the Russians, Kushner, Jr. Trump, and Manafort. Conspiracy is an agreement to commit an illegal act, having the specific intent to commit the object crime, and in most states now, there must be an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. Guess what, there's a federal statute for conspiracy, although the "in furtherance of" requirement is somewhat murky, but that decidedly works against Trump because clearly, the act of meeting with the Russians was an act in furtherance of, even if the federal statute doesn't require it.

I could go on with this stuff. Do you now understand that this isn't "silliness"? And what you also need to begin to consider is what the future ramifications will be if Trump, Jr., and Kushner aren't held to account for these things. Hopefully you'll reflect on that a little.

All of this, but also note that the Trump Tower meeting is just an ancillary matter and likely a deliberate "false flag" attempt at distracting from the far deeper connections Trump has had with Putin and/or Russian intelligence going back to the 70's. Aside from all of the money laundering he and his numerous shell companies have conducted on behalf of multiple Russian oligarchs, Trump has been a Russian asset for at least thirty to forty years.

The real story of 2016 most likely begins at the Miss Universe contest in Moscow in 2013. That's when Trump would have first been told to run and that Russia would be actively engaged in putting him into the Oval and likely what strategy to use (i.e., racism) as Russia's propaganda against the US has always focused excessively on our racism (most certainly throughout the Cold War, which Putin played an active role in).

Proving all of that--in the high standard required--may be too difficult, as it would require Russian sources and Putin has more than likely murdered many of them all ready. It would probably come down to what Steele was able to secure and relate (that we haven't seen revealed/leaked yet).

I wrote about what we, the public knows on a factual basis. The Trump Tower meeting is very serious and we have enough facts with which to form an analysis approaching reasonable. It may not seem all that juicy, but don't underestimate it. The un-indicted co-conspirator case, with respect to Michael Cohen, is also a known. Between those two cases, there could be as many as 10 criminal charges brought against Trump.

And that's just what we know for sure.

The whole thing about Trump being a Russian asset is pure speculation at this point.

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He'll fire Mueller and squash the investigation before the next congress is seated.

Thus insuring an impeachment for obstruction of justice. Even a Republican Senate would be unlikely to impede such an impeachment since most are patriots first and Trump supporters second, if at all.

I believe that the failure of the Democratic party is rooted in this type of misplaced faith in human nature.

So Dems should go about appealing to the stupidity, ignorance, fear, and hate found in human nature like Republicans do?
 
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