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On a lark, I watched Justice League: War on Hulu last night.

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I figure Warner Bros is going to pull it from Hulu soon so that you have to get a DC streaming subscription to watch things like that, so I thought I'd give it another watch. It's a direct-to-video movie that was never released in theaters, and about what you would expect from such a project. What struck me was how much better it was than the live action Justice League movie or the Batman vs Superman movie that tried to set up the Justice League movie.

It introduced all new versions of the characters and told a story without mucking things up, and did it all in a single movie.

This exchange between Green Lantern and Batman alone was better writing than anything in either of the live action movies:

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It even includes Batman's dry humor, which comic book fans are familiar with, but the movies have yet to get right.

Don't get me wrong, it's a thoroughly mediocre movie that doesn't even live up to the DC cartoon TV shows they put out in recent decades, but it is still orders of magnitude better than big budget live action movies that WB nearly bet the farm on, which is kind of sad.



Anyway, early buzz on the Aquaman movie is that it's actually good, so hopefully things are starting to improve for the people involved in the live action projects. Getting rid of Zach Snyder and bringing on a producer who will now do DC movies and only DC movies (Walter Hamada) seems to have been the right call.
 
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Looks like the PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 is just a "cash grab" in the words of this reviewer and no different from a TV edit of an R-rated movie. The Fred Savage scenes are indeed funny, but that's the only new content in the movie.
 
Underseer said:
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Looks like the PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 is just a "cash grab" in the words of this reviewer and no different from a TV edit of an R-rated movie. The Fred Savage scenes are indeed funny, but that's the only new content in the movie.
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It's worth it just because the poster is apparently done in the style of some random mor(m)on painting, and they got their magic underwear all in a twist over it. :D They even started a petition to....do something. Who the fuck knows, these sensitive snowflakes wouldn't know the meaning of xmas, or the first amendment if it ran over them in a paving machine.

So bring on more Deadpool! :D
 
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KeepTalking said:
James Brown said:
Oh, then never mind.

Unless they can do the Captain Marvel thing and convince us in the trailer that the upcoming movie takes place before the movie where the character got killed off.
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Unfortunately, I think the title "Spider-Man: Far from Home" already lets the cat out of the bag. Spider-Man was far from home, on the planet Titan, when the snap happened, so presumably that is where he will be when the universe is set right in Avengers 4 and he will have to make his way home from there. At least that's the way I have thought about it since the title was announced. I could be wrong, but I guess we will see when the trailer is released. If we see a lot of Spidey in space, or at least places that are definitely not on Earth, then that would seal the deal for me.
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They've already been filming in Europe, and it looks like Peter's high school chums are on some kind of field trip in Europe. Mysterio will be the villain. So I'm guessing that the "far from home" is referring to Europe, not a moon of Saturn.

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Not long after I posted I ran across the same information about the villain and locations for Far from Home, which of course destroyed what I thought was the obvious connotation of the title. In retrospect, it is also unlikely that coordination like that between studios would have happened before Infinity War came out, and the script for Far from Home would have to have been written long before that.

One nit to pick, though. The location of Titan in the MCU is not the moon of Saturn, as it is in the comics, but rather another planet entirely.
 
Underseer said:
On a lark, I watched Justice League: War on Hulu last night.


I figure Warner Bros is going to pull it from Hulu soon so that you have to get a DC streaming subscription to watch things like that, so I thought I'd give it another watch. It's a direct-to-video movie that was never released in theaters, and about what you would expect from such a project. What struck me was how much better it was than the live action Justice League movie or the Batman vs Superman movie that tried to set up the Justice League movie.

It introduced all new versions of the characters and told a story without mucking things up, and did it all in a single movie.

This exchange between Green Lantern and Batman alone was better writing than anything in either of the live action movies:

[YOUTUBE]UTEKkSFtcJE[/YOUTUBE]​

It even includes Batman's dry humor, which comic book fans are familiar with, but the movies have yet to get right.

Don't get me wrong, it's a thoroughly mediocre movie that doesn't even live up to the DC cartoon TV shows they put out in recent decades, but it is still orders of magnitude better than big budget live action movies that WB nearly bet the farm on, which is kind of sad.



Anyway, early buzz on the Aquaman movie is that it's actually good, so hopefully things are starting to improve for the people involved in the live action projects. Getting rid of Zach Snyder and bringing on a producer who will now do DC movies and only DC movies (Walter Hamada) seems to have been the right call.
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I have that movie on Blu-ray, got it for X-Mass last year. It is definitely a better treatment of the Justice League than the live action, and actually hews fairly close to the Justice League Origins graphic novel. The big difference is that they swap out Aquaman from the comic for Shazam in the film, and give Billy Batson/Shazam something of a spotlight at the same time.
 
As I mentioned in the movie thread, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is simply amazing and if you like comic books at all, you should watch that movie as long as you're not a delicate princess snowflake conservative or libertarian who hates anything that doesn't have a white male as the protagonist.

In what should be a surprise to no one, Sony is already talking about new Spider-Verse movies. That should make me cynical, but I really like these incarnations of the various alternate-reality Spider heroes.

They're already planning not one but two Spider-Gwen movies. The second will feature Spider-Gwen, Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) and Silk. No doubt this one will generate Ghostbusters-levels of crying and tantrum-throwing.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/12/spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-sequel-spin-off/
 
Ah ha! I think I just figured it out! Sony Pictures Animation has made nothing but bad movies for some time now, although a couple rose to the level of mediocrity. The last movie before this was the Emoji movie, which was their worst movie yet, then they suddenly produce a film of the quality of Into the Spider-Verse?

It defies credulity until you realize that this is probably the result of Wilson Fisk turning on that particle accelerator. Obviously, when he did, the Sony Pictures Animation from our universe was exchanged with the Sony Pictures Animation studio from an alternate dimension wherein the same studio produces good movies instead of bad movies.

That's gotta be the explanation!
 
ZiprHead said:
Thousands have signed a petition calling for the poster to be scrapped.

A new movie poster for the upcoming Once Upon A Deadpool has angered many members of the Mormon faith, due to its resemblance to a painting commissioned by the Jesus Christ Church Of Latter Day Saints.
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https://www.nme.com/news/film/new-deadpool-poster-angered-many-mormons-2420113
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This is why other Christians accuse the Mormons of being fake Christians. They haven't murdered anyone over those posters yet, have they?
 
Underseer said:
Ah ha! I think I just figured it out! Sony Pictures Animation has made nothing but bad movies for some time now, although a couple rose to the level of mediocrity.
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Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 1/2 and Arthur Christmas are great movies.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Underseer said:
Ah ha! I think I just figured it out! Sony Pictures Animation has made nothing but bad movies for some time now, although a couple rose to the level of mediocrity.
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Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 1/2 and Arthur Christmas are great movies.
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That's a matter of opinion, I guess. I know that Lord & Miller fans point to Cloudy 1 & 2 as examples of their greatness, but I found them to be a bit above average and can't actually remember much of what was in them. I remember kind of enjoying them at the time I watched them, I guess. I do remember thinking that the idea of food falling from the sky being hilarious and inventive, but I can't remember the personalities of any of the characters, nor can I tell you any of the plot points that made up the story. I didn't even see Arthur Christmas, but I'll take your word for it.

I never had any interest in the Hotel Transylvania movies, and the Emoji Movie looked like pure dreck, so I actively avoided it.



Anyway, back to the topic of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse[ent]hellip[/ent]

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A lot of mainstream audience members were introduced to the alternate Spider-heroes for the first time with the release of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. While Spider-Gwen is wildly popular with some comic book fans, others are actively angry about the existence of her character.

Some characters exist solely to die and provide the main character with motivation to fight on or to fight harder or whatever.

For example, Batman's parents, Spider-Man's uncle Ben, or the Ancient One for Dr. Strange.

Both male and female characters can be little more than plot-corpses who exist as motivation for the main character, but keep in mind that none of this happens in a vacuum. Up until recently, the action hero was always a male, so if a male character died just to provide motivation to another character, that didn't send a message to little boys that they exist solely for the benefit of another segment of society.

But because the action heroes were never women (and because of other aspects of society), when this same plot element was applied to female characters, it sent a different message to little girls, and of course resulted in complaints by the kind of Evil Social Justice Warriors who think that women should not exist solely for the benefit of and pleasure of men.

Thus was born the concept of  Women in Refrigerators, a reference to a female Green Lantern character whose corpse was discarded in a refrigerator just to taunt the hero.

On the flip side, people get frustrated with comic books because it seems like death is meaningless. As one comic book writer lamented, in comic books, death is just a "temporary inconvenience."

This leads to Spider-Gwen anti-fans, who experience nerd-rage because they want Gwen Stacy to remain a motivational corpse and not a person. Gwen Stacy's death happened a decade or so after the death of uncle Ben, so it was basically a reinforcement of Peter Parker's guilt and motivation.

Fans of Spider-Gwen tend to be younger readers and female readers for whom the Gwen Stacy death is a meaningless footnote from some story that happened in the 1970s. It should therefore surprise no one that the Spider-Gwen character in the current Spider-Man movie is proving wildly popular with teen girl audience members, so much so that Sony is already talking about two Spider-Verse sequels starring or co-starring Spider-Gwen.

Thus, at some point, we are probably going to hear about a fan backlash from the segment of older male comic book fans who prefer Gwen Stacy to remain a motivational corpse. I have to say that I agree with Moviebob on this one. Gwen Stacy was a motivational corpse for 41 years, and the Gwen Stacy of the Earth-616 dimension is still a motivational corpse. If modern comic book audience like Spider-Gwen and/or Gwenpool, then good for them and good for the comic book industry.

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I have to say that I agree with Moviebob on this one. Gwen Stacy was a motivational corpse for 41 years, and the Gwen Stacy of the Earth-616 dimension is still a motivational corpse.
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I’m an older fan I guess (when did that happen?), and I would agree too.

Gwen is still dead, she has not been brought back. If anything the introduction of Spider-Gwen has reopened those old wounds for Peter. A reminder and an example of the kind of person she could have become. That wound was also poked by the M day event.


I hope they give glimpses of other Spider-Men in the other films, like the one from Japanese tv.
 
The Japanese Toei version of Spider-Man from the 1970s does show up in the Spider-Verse comic books, but I have no idea what the copyright issues would be with bringing him to a movie.
 
Jolly_Penguin said:
I don't know how I missed it when it came out, but I finally discovered "Megamind". That's a great film!
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But the main character is blue instead of white. Doesn't that mean this movie is an example of White Genocide and the persecution of superior white people?
 
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Now we found out why Marvel and Netflix split up and canceled the Marvel-Netflix shows. Long story short: Netflix tried to play hardball during negotiations.
 
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Now we found out why Marvel and Netflix split up and canceled the Marvel-Netflix shows. Long story short: Netflix tried to play hardball during negotiations.
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Awww... poor whittle ole mega conglomerate was bullied by Netflix.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
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Now we found out why Marvel and Netflix split up and canceled the Marvel-Netflix shows. Long story short: Netflix tried to play hardball during negotiations.
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Awww... poor whittle ole mega conglomerate was bullied by Netflix.
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Oh, I don't think they were bullied. In fact I imagine you and I have the same fears about Disney taking over quite that much of the entertainment industry and becoming a near-monopoly (if not a de facto one), but Netflix did kind of create this particular problem now that we know the details of their negotiation.



Anyway, on to the next topic.

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This barely counts as a comic book movie given that none of the comic book aficionados that I know actually read the comic book, but still this has me excited. That's some inspired casting there as Tessa Thompson and Chris Hemsworth have already proved that they do well in action-comedies together (Thor Ragnarok).
 
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