Louis C.K. Stirs Outrage

[TSwizzle]

Or does he ? Audio from a Louis C.K. set has been doing the rounds and it seems that the MSM are trying to conjure up some outrage over his material.

Disgraced comedian Louis C.K. has stirred more outrage after taking aim at Parkland shooting survivors and gender identity concerns in a recent set at a comedy club on Long Island. A 48-minute audio recording of C.K. surfaced late Sunday on YouTube. It was described as a set delivered Dec. 16 at Governor’s Comedy Club in Levittown.

Variety

His material may be in bad taste but that is very common with this type of comedy.

 

[Trausti]

It was funny. And that's verboten now. Comedy must not be funny; it must be Woke.

 

[prideandfall]

It was funny. And that's verboten now. Comedy must not be funny; it must be Woke.

yeah because why recognize that the US has been an uptight puritanical shithole that condemns comedy especially any time it steps outside of a narrowly defined set of norms, when you can instead use this as a way to try and justify your conservative boner for being a massive SJW.

in an entirely more rational response, his jokes weren't even in poor taste... they're simply acerbic and brutal in the way that CK has always been.
on the plus side, this is the best set he's had in years, was definitely better than his last 2 specials. further proof that hardship is the key to creativity... he was doing very well and his standup was suffering, then the last year happened and his set got way better.

 

[blastula]

This lady was funnier.

We Talked to the Heckler Who Told Louis C.K. to Take His Dick Out at the Comedy Cellar - VICE

 

[Bronzeage]

Any other comic could have told the same joke and everything would be just fine, because they would use a funny voice and become a "character."

Andrew Dice Clay's act was nothing but one offensive liner("Mother Goose? Yeah, I fucked her."), but he wasn't Andrew Dice Clay. He was some guy pretending to be ADC.

 

[PyramidHead]

Or does he ? Audio from a Louis C.K. set has been doing the rounds and it seems that the MSM are trying to conjure up some outrage over his material.

Disgraced comedian Louis C.K. has stirred more outrage after taking aim at Parkland shooting survivors and gender identity concerns in a recent set at a comedy club on Long Island. A 48-minute audio recording of C.K. surfaced late Sunday on YouTube. It was described as a set delivered Dec. 16 at Governor’s Comedy Club in Levittown.

Variety

His material may be in bad taste but that is very common with this type of comedy.

It's not so much the bad taste that gets me about this, it's the utter laziness of his new material. "When I was young, older conservatives were threatened and confused by me! Now that I'm older, I'm threatened and confused by young people! What's the deal with that!" Not to mention the fact that he's basically punching down, which differentiates bad taste from offensive comedy done right (Carlin, Pryor, etc.).

 

[TSwizzle]

This lady was funnier.

We Talked to the Heckler Who Told Louis C.K. to Take His Dick Out at the Comedy Cellar - VICE

That is hilarious.

Still, Randall said, it'd be nice to have a little more of a heads-up before an alleged sexual abuser takes the stage. When a comedian like C.K. plays a surprise gig at the Cellar, Randall said, folks like her can find themselves subjected to "nonconsensual performances"—forced to play audience to someone they don't want to support.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Any other comic could have told the same joke and everything would be just fine, because they would use a funny voice and become a "character."

I disagree. The problem is, it isn't a joke. A joke requires structure. What he said was post Season Three Family Guy humor, which is nothing more than a sentence.

I always think back to when Steve Irwin had just died tragically in a scuba incident with a stingray. Norm MacDonald was on the Daily Show and he made a few unbelievably poorly timed, but outrageously funny comments about Irwin's death. The key to it working was that he wasn't degrading the guy that had died (or in CK's case, the ones who suffered from the trauma of a school shooting). They were twisted observations about how anyone could be shocked that a guy named "The Crocodile Hunter" had died. Edgy comedy requires finesse and in general, the more tragic or complicated the subject, the more finesse and talent is required to pull it off. A good example is Life is Beautiful won an Oscar (should have won more) and Jerry Lewis's abomination (despite good intentions) is locked away in a vault.

So this isn't about the character or persona of the comedian. It is simply that CK Louis didn't even bother to try to make an actual joke. And that is why it wasn't funny. At the very least it is offensive to people paying money to see a comedy show, when a comedian phones in material.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This lady was funnier.

We Talked to the Heckler Who Told Louis C.K. to Take His Dick Out at the Comedy Cellar - VICE

That is hilarious.

Still, Randall said, it'd be nice to have a little more of a heads-up before an alleged sexual abuser takes the stage. When a comedian like C.K. plays a surprise gig at the Cellar, Randall said, folks like her can find themselves subjected to "nonconsensual performances"—forced to play audience to someone they don't want to support.

People paid to see certain acts. You going into a movie theater to watch Aquaman v Global Warming Myth and being shown An Inconvenient Truth not going to make you upset that you paid for one thing and got another?

 

[TSwizzle]

[People paid to see certain acts.

Not they didn't. Read the article.

 

[TSwizzle]

It's not so much the bad taste that gets me about this, it's the utter laziness of his new material. "When I was young, older conservatives were threatened and confused by me! Now that I'm older, I'm threatened and confused by young people! What's the deal with that!" Not to mention the fact that he's basically punching down, which differentiates bad taste from offensive comedy done right (Carlin, Pryor, etc.).

I'm one of these people that doesn't "get" Louis C.K comedy. But I thought what I read of his latest set was mildly amusing and an interesting take on current events.

 

[PyramidHead]

It's not so much the bad taste that gets me about this, it's the utter laziness of his new material. "When I was young, older conservatives were threatened and confused by me! Now that I'm older, I'm threatened and confused by young people! What's the deal with that!" Not to mention the fact that he's basically punching down, which differentiates bad taste from offensive comedy done right (Carlin, Pryor, etc.).

I'm one of these people that doesn't "get" Louis C.K comedy. But I thought what I read of his latest set was mildly amusing and an interesting take on current events.

Yeah, but do you also find the whole "I identify as an Apache helicopter" meme funny? Kind of proving the point about Louie's heel turn.

 

[TSwizzle]

Yeah, but do you also find the whole "I identify as an Apache helicopter" meme funny?

I did when I heard it years ago. It's still amusing.

 

[PyramidHead]

Yeah, but do you also find the whole "I identify as an Apache helicopter" meme funny?

I did when I heard it years ago. It's still amusing.

Yeah. Years ago, Louis C.K. wouldn't be caught dead making a joke anything like that, because it's easy and lazy. Now it's starting to prompt the cringe it always should have, like when somebody thinks dressing up in blackface for Halloween might be funny. People are just a little taken aback that Louie has gone for fruit that's not only low-hanging but rotten, when he used to be a real trailblazer in terms of comedic material (whether you found it funny or not). When he was 'playing a character' that was intentionally despicable, it was obvious from context, and worked on a level that was often unexpected (talking about how he could beat his 3 year-old daughter in a fight, for instance) rather than going for a tired or played-out reference. And there's the fact that it's not just a comedian telling a lousy joke, it's one who took advantage of his skyrocketing fame and influence to stand in front of the door to a room with his dick in his hand so a woman couldn't leave without acknowledging his plea to jack it in front of her, and then getting the women who said 'no' basically blacklisted in an industry where women already have trouble getting established. When he fessed up about it years later, he promised he'd retreat into the sidelines and listen rather than throwing barbs at people, and here he is on stage making jokes that appeal to ignorant right-wingers and nobody else.

 

[TSwizzle]

Yeah, but do you also find the whole "I identify as an Apache helicopter" meme funny?

I did when I heard it years ago. It's still amusing.

Yeah. Years ago, Louis C.K. wouldn't be caught dead making a joke anything like that, because it's easy and lazy. Now it's starting to prompt the cringe it always should have, like when somebody thinks dressing up in blackface for Halloween might be funny. People are just a little taken aback that Louie has gone for fruit that's not only low-hanging but rotten, when he used to be a real trailblazer in terms of comedic material (whether you found it funny or not). When he was 'playing a character' that was intentionally despicable, it was obvious from context, and worked on a level that was often unexpected (talking about how he could beat his 3 year-old daughter in a fight, for instance) rather than going for a tired or played-out reference. And there's the fact that it's not just a comedian telling a lousy joke, it's one who took advantage of his skyrocketing fame and influence to stand in front of the door to a room with his dick in his hand so a woman couldn't leave without acknowledging his plea to jack it in front of her, and then getting the women who said 'no' basically blacklisted in an industry where women already have trouble getting established. When he fessed up about it years later, he promised he'd retreat into the sidelines and listen rather than throwing barbs at people, and here he is on stage making jokes that appeal to ignorant right-wingers and nobody else.

Is this what the outrage is about ?

Gee, were you upset when Green Day sold out and went mainstream too ?!

 

[PyramidHead]

Yeah. Years ago, Louis C.K. wouldn't be caught dead making a joke anything like that, because it's easy and lazy. Now it's starting to prompt the cringe it always should have, like when somebody thinks dressing up in blackface for Halloween might be funny. People are just a little taken aback that Louie has gone for fruit that's not only low-hanging but rotten, when he used to be a real trailblazer in terms of comedic material (whether you found it funny or not). When he was 'playing a character' that was intentionally despicable, it was obvious from context, and worked on a level that was often unexpected (talking about how he could beat his 3 year-old daughter in a fight, for instance) rather than going for a tired or played-out reference. And there's the fact that it's not just a comedian telling a lousy joke, it's one who took advantage of his skyrocketing fame and influence to stand in front of the door to a room with his dick in his hand so a woman couldn't leave without acknowledging his plea to jack it in front of her, and then getting the women who said 'no' basically blacklisted in an industry where women already have trouble getting established. When he fessed up about it years later, he promised he'd retreat into the sidelines and listen rather than throwing barbs at people, and here he is on stage making jokes that appeal to ignorant right-wingers and nobody else.

Is this what the outrage is about ?

Gee, were you upset when Green Day sold out and went mainstream too ?!

Was never a Green Day fan, but if Billie Joe Armstrong was caught showing his dick to aspiring female musicians and then wrote a song about how school shooting survivors should just shut up and enjoy their Jell-o shots, you'd have a good point of comparison instead of a non-sequitur

 

[TSwizzle]

I get from that you are not only "outraged" (probably too strong a word) at the the quality of Louis C.K. material AND he's a sex pest etc and back on stage. Fair enough.

 

[rousseau]

If you have a demonstrably poor character you stop getting the benefit of the doubt. Good people can say bad things and it's funny because you know they don't mean it, but when bad people say bad things it looks more like a character flaw, even if it's intended as a joke.

 

[repoman]

Any other comic could have told the same joke and everything would be just fine, because they would use a funny voice and become a "character."

I disagree. The problem is, it isn't a joke. A joke requires structure. What he said was post Season Three Family Guy humor, which is nothing more than a sentence.

I always think back to when Steve Irwin had just died tragically in a scuba incident with a stingray. Norm MacDonald was on the Daily Show and he made a few unbelievably poorly timed, but outrageously funny comments about Irwin's death. The key to it working was that he wasn't degrading the guy that had died (or in CK's case, the ones who suffered from the trauma of a school shooting). They were twisted observations about how anyone could be shocked that a guy named "The Crocodile Hunter" had died. Edgy comedy requires finesse and in general, the more tragic or complicated the subject, the more finesse and talent is required to pull it off. A good example is Life is Beautiful won an Oscar (should have won more) and Jerry Lewis's abomination (despite good intentions) is locked away in a vault.

So this isn't about the character or persona of the comedian. It is simply that CK Louis didn't even bother to try to make an actual joke. And that is why it wasn't funny. At the very least it is offensive to people paying money to see a comedy show, when a comedian phones in material.

Norm McDonald has the style, body language and delivery that perfectly fits that joke and it was hilarious.

Louis CK is more of a ranter blowing off steam. Bill Burr is a better ranter than him and more balanced and smarter in general.

What Louis CK did best was talk about stuff that really pushed boundaries of acceptable topics. But again, Bill Burr does it better. Also Burr is a guy who will admit that even when he rants about something he will be sometimes be a wimp in real life about following through about it. He is not trying to overcompensate.

 

[Emily Lake]

What’s that Stephen Fry quote about people being offended? Consider that my perspective here.


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