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God's Not Dead

I've been trying to rent this movie from the local Redbox for at least two months but it has always been checked out. I guess that can be expected since I live in the the Bible Belt. So I decided to download it and see what all the fuss is about. After watching it, I'm glad I didn't contribute any money to this movie.

One of the first scenes during the opening credits, before anybody says anything, shows a Muslim father checking to make sure his daughter's veil is on all the way, and completely covers up her face, before he drops her off at school. That gave me a pretty good idea of what to expect from this movie. Later he ends up beating her because he finds out she's been listening to Christian preachers on her Ipod.

The main story is about a college student who has to take a Philosophy class as one of his electives because it is the only one that fits with his schedule. He is warned beforehand by the admissions guy that the teacher is a real jerk, but there's no way around it for the student because it's the only class that fits his schedule.

The very first day of class, the asshole teacher tells everybody about all the smart philosophers that were atheists. He is pretty much the exact cliche of the arrogant, mean-spirited, and deceitful atheist. He tells all the students that they need to accept that there is no god without providing any arguments or reasons whatsoever except for the appeal to authority, and then tries to make them all write "God is dead" on a paper and turn it in to him for a grade. Watching this bullshit made me think that this is what uneducated people think college is like. Anybody who has ever attended a real university would have probably walked out of the movie at this point if they paid for it.

So of course, the student refuses. The teacher then challenges the student to prove that god exists in front of the class. Challenge accepted, blah blah blah. The only two arguments the student uses to prove god exists is the similarity between the big bang and genesis, and that the fossil record shows too many big leaps that couldn't have happened in any other way besides god did it. I've seen both of those arguments refuted many times in forums like this in different ways. There are enough big words and philosophical terms used to catch the interest of any Christian who has never studied philosophy, but I doubt any moderate Christian with a decent education would be impressed.

Throughout this challenge the teacher continually warns the student that his grades will suffer if he doesn't give up. He even threatens to make sure the student never gets his law degree at one point in the movie. The professor is such a comically bad, unbelievable character that I'm guessing this movie will make many Christians question their faith more that reinforce it. Did I mention that the main Duck Dynasty guy, Willie Robertson, also makes an appearance? I get the feeling that he may have helped fund or produce this movie, but I don't give a shit enough to check.

During the climax of the debate between the student and the professor, the professor becomes so frustrated by his inability to answer the student's questions that he finally admits that he has secretly known that god existed all along, but hates God because He didn't save his mother when she was dying of cancer. Watching this scene reinforced my theory that most religious people don't really understand why atheists think the way they do. Fortunately, the professor gets hit by a car at the end of the movie, but repents just in time before he gets sent to hell where he would have been tortured for eternity. The end.

This movie is probably worse than most of you imagined it was.
 
eeek. thanks for the warning.
 
There is a scene where all the intellectuals laugh at the professor's Christian girlfriend because she accidentally ruined the party wine by leaving it in her car too long, and they are all laughing at her in ways that nobody in real life laughs. Most of the actors are not great.
 
Perhaps now we can finally bring Lady Hope, A Historic Perspective and How Darwin Was Saved to the silver screen.

This is like "Christian Rock". Ironically, it has no soul, and only appeals to Christians that also don't have one.
LOL...I used to like Larry Norman in the late 70's early 80's. He died.
 
Oliver Twist isn't dead. Falstaff isn't dead. Luca Brasi isn't dead. Scarlett O'Hara isn't dead. Quetzlcoatl isn't dead. Scylla isn't dead. Meadow Soprano isn't dead. They will live in our imaginations for as long as we like.
 
Right... The imagination is the most powerful force I can think of. Maybe God isn't dead because people won't stfu about God and let the flame burn down for say... 4,000 years. By then you can imagine a cool dolphin to scare you into righteousness and/or argument. You're always going to have a damn God, like it or not... real or not. Bow down or stfu. I'm not directing that at you, ideologyhunter. I'm just disgusted by the immaturity of some of the comments people have made on this thread. Is this high school or are you just high and in need of schooling? Let me know.
 
You're always going to have a damn God, like it or not... real or not. Bow down or stfu.
Uhhhhhh....no. Neither, thanks just the same.
People offering ridiculous gods or ridiculous arguments for their gods or ridiculous advice to deal with ridiculous gods... That's nothing worth bowing down to nor shutting the fuck up about.

Thanks awfully, but no thanks.
 
Yeah we knew it was going to be stupid.

The Christian hero puts questions to the 'atheist professor' that he - according to the script - can't answer, thus "proving god".

When of course, such questions have long been refuted, discounted and debunked years ago by the secular world.

This is just a movie where the Christians get to bring them up again and then - because it's their movie - pretend no one has ever refuted them and thus they 'win'.

It IS a fictional movie after all.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that some people think they can demonstrate that a work of fiction is actually factual, by the application of more and more fiction.

I wrote a story about a person who was an unbeliever, but in the end realised he was wrong; And I want you to take this story as evidence that unbelievers are wrong. :banghead:
 
On and on. Keep searching for God guys. That is why I'm so proud of you. God is proud of you too. A+
 
Right... The imagination is the most powerful force I can think of. Maybe God isn't dead because people won't stfu about God and let the flame burn down for say... 4,000 years. By then you can imagine a cool dolphin to scare you into righteousness and/or argument. You're always going to have a damn God, like it or not... real or not. Bow down or stfu. I'm not directing that at you, ideologyhunter. I'm just disgusted by the immaturity of some of the comments people have made on this thread. Is this high school or are you just high and in need of schooling? Let me know.

Well I'm not high yet, but I probably will be in a little while. I'm a bit surprised by your replies since just last night you and I were exchanging some of the most sacrilegious and unholy music ever created in the metal thread.
 
God appreciates that I enjoy his art. It all comes from God. I'm scarred with Witchcraft symbols and inked with the marks of devils and all sorts of stupid stuff. God loves me still. Unholy = Holy in my model of religion. Acknowledge God and you do God's work either way. not to pee on the thread, but some were making immature statements that just showed ignorance. Your description of the movie was pretty accurate. It is just another one of the God movies that are filling the shelves this year. A lot of God movies lately huh. They are letting the vampire thing cool down because these things go in cycles.

WANT PROOF OF GOD?

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Unholy = Holy in my model of religion.

Sounds good to me. If I had to pick a god that I hope exists out of all the thousands that we've heard of, it would be either Satan or Dionysus. Or maybe Athena. I try to keep my mind open to the possibility that some god might have created us even though is seems a little unlikely. By the way the picture you just posted inspired me to go find my weed pipe.
 
Of all the god movies out this year, I think I enjoyed Thor 2 the most.

Loki is awesome.
 
Right... The imagination is the most powerful force I can think of. Maybe God isn't dead because people won't stfu about God and let the flame burn down for say... 4,000 years. By then you can imagine a cool dolphin to scare you into righteousness and/or argument.
It's a myth that we need fear to be good. Fear's just easy and powerful, and works well on work animals and slaves. Your God is a myth if it can't give up on punishment as a core value given that the best available information on how human beings operate belies that nonsense.
You're always going to have a damn God, like it or not... real or not.
You may be right.

Bow down or stfu.
No. :)

I'm not directing that at you, ideologyhunter. I'm just disgusted by the immaturity of some of the comments people have made on this thread. Is this high school or are you just high and in need of schooling? Let me know.
Which comments are bothering you?

On and on. Keep searching for God guys. That is why I'm so proud of you. God is proud of you too. A+
Why do you need to search for something you already have by virtue of existing? You religious types are so weird, always gotta complicate the obvious.

I'm scarred with Witchcraft symbols and inked with the marks of devils and all sorts of stupid stuff.
I find that oddly attractive.

God loves me still. Unholy = Holy in my model of religion.
Why not do away with the whole awkward and insoluble holy-unholy dichotomy? It truly doesn't offer you anything in the way of well being or peace, or a realistic view of the world.
Acknowledge God and you do God's work either way.
I shall continue my devotions to doing the work of the ancient fertility goddess who's about to give your old dude a fresh kick in the gadgetry.

pot to bee on the thread,
What?

but some were making immature statements that just showed ignorance. Your description of the movie was pretty accurate. It is just another one of the God movies that are filling the shelves this year. A lot of God movies lately huh. They are letting the vampire thing cool down because these things go in cycles.
Indeed, sometimes really big, slow cycles, longer than ideologies can possibly survive in that kind of heat. :)
 
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