Pelosi: Impeachment Is Moving Forward

[blastula]

Wow, the purge continues, looks like they want to go full soviet apparatchik state.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So McCusker kept it quiet and tried to accommodate to maximum extent the law provided, didn’t blow any whistles... and that is enough to can her. The GOP is a fucking disgrace for defending this Administration.

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump says military may consider disciplinary action against Vindman

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said the military will likely look at disciplinary action against Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, just days after the National Security Council official was ousted from the White House after giving damaging testimony during the House impeachment hearings.

“That’s going to be up to the military, we’ll have to see, but if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” Trump said in response to a follow-up question about what he meant when he said, “the military can handle him.”

 

[Keith&Co.]

Trump says military may consider disciplinary action against Vindman

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said the military will likely look at disciplinary action against Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, just days after the National Security Council official was ousted from the White House after giving damaging testimony during the House impeachment hearings.

“That’s going to be up to the military, we’ll have to see, but if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” Trump said in response to a follow-up question about what he meant when he said, “the military can handle him.”

Jesus fuck. I knew Trump was a sore loser, but a sore winner?

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Is it time to start the next impeachment, or will that wait until after the election?

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump says military may consider disciplinary action against Vindman

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said the military will likely look at disciplinary action against Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, just days after the National Security Council official was ousted from the White House after giving damaging testimony during the House impeachment hearings.

“That’s going to be up to the military, we’ll have to see, but if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” Trump said in response to a follow-up question about what he meant when he said, “the military can handle him.”

Jesus fuck. I knew Trump was a sore loser, but a sore winner?

I don't know how anyone who wore the uniform could still support that guy.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Is it time to start the next impeachment, or will that wait until after the election?

Well, the next one could be done much faster.
Get everyone in a group, ask questions en mass.
"Who here was fired for obeying the law? Raise your hands. One, two, three.... Colonel Vindman, is your hand raised or were you scratching your nose? Ah, okay, four, five..."

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Is it time to start the next impeachment, or will that wait until after the election?

It didn't work.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is it time to start the next impeachment, or will that wait until after the election?

The Libertarian who didn't give a fuck about Government Overreach.

Oh, oh!!!

Let me guess... 'just as bad'?

 

[angelo]

Capital inflow are at near record levels, and pension funds are booming. Geopolitically, the Trump is in the process of reinstating his country's power and influence.
He's overseen the near collapse of ISIS and disposed of it's leaders Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. He has sought detente with North Korea's Kim Jon Un, has sponsored workable Israel/Arab peace plan, effectually stared down Iranian aggression in the Persian Gulf with the removal of the murderous Qassem Soleimani and shamed NATO partners into pulling their weight.

All Bonespur's talking points and most of it just straight up outright bullshit. So, for Angelo,

Which would all be celebrated had the Trump not won in 2016 and Killery could take the credit instead, or been a Democrat instead of from the GOP, right?

 

[Patooka]

Which would all be celebrated had the Trump not won in 2016 and Killery could take the credit instead, or been a Democrat instead of from the GOP, right?

I daresay they would be celebrated if they actually happened. Let's go through the bullshit one point at a time:

Capital inflow are at near record levels, and pension funds are booming.

Correlation =/= causation

Geopolitically, the Trump is in the process of reinstating his country's power and influence.

Trump is openly laughed at by other global leaders (see exhibits A, B and C). On top of which, America's traditional allies in Europe are now making plans saying they cannot rely on the US as an ally any more. You have to go back to before the Monroe Doctrine to see a point in time when the US has been less influential in the world.

He's overseen the near collapse of ISIS and disposed of it's leaders Abu Bakr al Baghdadi

Nope, quite the opposite actually. That's what happens when you throw your allies under a bus. Credit where it's due, yes Baghdadi being dead is a good thing, but Trump couldn't help but even make something so straight forward as "We have brought a murdering terrorist to justice" sound really fucking weird.

He has sought detente with North Korea's Kim Jon Un,

He has given North Korea's rogue regime legitimacy in the world whilst compromising South Korean security, not exactly the same thing

has sponsored workable Israel/Arab peace plan

I'm not a diplomat, but if one side tells you to unequivocally go and get fucked, it's hardly a workable plan now is it?

effectually stared down Iranian aggression in the Persian Gulf with the removal of the murderous Qassem Soleimani

Yep, great job Trump. You escalated the proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, endorsed a dictator who murders journalists and replaced Soleimani with an even more anti-American Soleimani clone. Brilliant fucking strategy.

So yes, premium quality bullshit, your whataboutisms notwithstanding.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Trump says military may consider disciplinary action against Vindman

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said the military will likely look at disciplinary action against Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, just days after the National Security Council official was ousted from the White House after giving damaging testimony during the House impeachment hearings.

“That’s going to be up to the military, we’ll have to see, but if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” Trump said in response to a follow-up question about what he meant when he said, “the military can handle him.”

Trump says that Vindman incorrectly reported his 'perfect' phone call. If he's court martialed on that charge, won't the prosecution have to produce the full transcript in order to compare his testimony?
Or the defense will need to subpoena the full transcript, not the Swiss-cheesed memo, in order to mount an effective defense?

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump says military may consider disciplinary action against Vindman

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said the military will likely look at disciplinary action against Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, just days after the National Security Council official was ousted from the White House after giving damaging testimony during the House impeachment hearings.

“That’s going to be up to the military, we’ll have to see, but if you look at what happened, they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” Trump said in response to a follow-up question about what he meant when he said, “the military can handle him.”

Trump says that Vindman incorrectly reported his 'perfect' phone call. If he's court martialed on that charge, won't the prosecution have to produce the full transcript in order to compare his testimony?
Or the defense will need to subpoena the full transcript, not the Swiss-cheesed memo, in order to mount an effective defense?

I don't think Bonespurs is smart enough to think that far ahead.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Is it time to start the next impeachment, or will that wait until after the election?

The Libertarian who didn't give a fuck about Government Overreach.

Oh, oh!!!

Let me guess... 'just as bad'?

You got that out of what I wrote? Amazing.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Trump says that Vindman incorrectly reported his 'perfect' phone call. If he's court martialed on that charge, won't the prosecution have to produce the full transcript in order to compare his testimony?
Or the defense will need to subpoena the full transcript, not the Swiss-cheesed memo, in order to mount an effective defense?

I don't think Bonespurs is smart enough to think that far ahead.

Almost certainly.
I just hope if he does push the military to 'discipline' Vindman, all the major decisions like charges, are made before it reaches an actual lawyer.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is it time to start the next impeachment, or will that wait until after the election?

The Libertarian who didn't give a fuck about Government Overreach.

Oh, oh!!!

Let me guess... 'just as bad'?

You got that out of what I wrote? Amazing.

Your apathetic posts provide a window to an apathetic attitude.

Trump says that Vindman incorrectly reported his 'perfect' phone call. If he's court martialed on that charge, won't the prosecution have to produce the full transcript in order to compare his testimony?
Or the defense will need to subpoena the full transcript, not the Swiss-cheesed memo, in order to mount an effective defense?

I don't think Bonespurs is smart enough to think that far ahead.

Almost certainly.
I just hope if he does push the military to 'discipline' Vindman, all the major decisions like charges, are made before it reaches an actual lawyer.

Except he interfered with the Navy Seal decisions. Trump has no limits, and no one is giving him any.

 

[James Brown]

Can Vindman sue for wrongful termination?

 

[ZiprHead]

Can Vindman sue for wrongful termination?

I think there will be a lot of people suing this administration before long.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Can Vindman sue for wrongful termination?

No. He's still got his military rank, just not that posting. So he's not terminated, just fired.
If this affects his performance evaluation, though, he might have a case.

 

[Politesse]

Can Vindman sue for wrongful termination?

I think Yevgeny Vindman most certainly should. There's no possible legal justification for firing a person in retaliation for their sibling's misconduct. That is some authoritarian bullshit.

To clarify, though, this would go nowhere. Soldiers don't usually get sue their employers in civil court,..