5g - The We're All Going To Die Thread

[ZiprHead]

5g cellular service is rolling out all across the country. Immense opposition is rising up. Issue was raised on a local FB page. People are saying it will cause cancer, boils, pestilence. One person locally said 5g causes the same symptoms as Covid 19 even though we don't have 5g here yet. Another said a 5g tower was activated and birds dropped dead from the sky.

Is there anything that can be done about the stupidity spreading about this subject.

 

[ruby sparks]

Is there anything that can be done about the stupidity spreading about this subject.

If coronavirus disproportionately affected stupid people........

 

[repoman]

Is 5g stopped by human bodies? If so how? Does it have to be ionizing to damage? Can it twist dna or protein or spin their functional groups?

The frequency of light is extremely important and a small change will do a lot.

Blue light vs UV for example.

 

[ZiprHead]

Is 5g stopped by human bodies? If so how? Does it have to be ionizing to damage? Can it twist dna or protein or spin their functional groups?

The frequency of light is extremely important and a small change will do a lot.

Blue light vs UV for example.

If you ever held a portable radio or boombox close to you, you received far more radiation of similar frequencies than you do from a 5G device that sits in your pocket. At the end-user, consumer level, even dozens of devices surrounding you — similar to the situation you'd experience in an office, classroom, or airport — impart a level of radiation that, based on energy concerns, ought to pose no threat at all.
As Dr. Alex Berezow of the American Council on Science and Health states, the assumption that 5G is safe is already backed by the full suite of scientific studies. Only, he contends, "f sufficient evidence shows something to the contrary, then we should reconsider the status quo."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/11/01/the-science-of-why-5g-is-almost-certainly-safe-for-humans/#79c7569270e3

The 5G Health Hazard That Isn’t
How one scientist and his inaccurate chart led to unwarranted fears of wireless technology.

Except that Dr. Curry and his graph got it wrong.

According to experts on the biological effects of electromagnetic radiation, radio waves become safer at higher frequencies, not more dangerous. (Extremely high-frequency energies, such as X-rays, behave differently and do pose a health risk.)

In his research, Dr. Curry looked at studies on how radio waves affect tissues isolated in the lab, and misinterpreted the results as applying to cells deep inside the human body. His analysis failed to recognize the protective effect of human skin. At higher radio frequencies, the skin acts as a barrier, shielding the internal organs, including the brain, from exposure. Human skin blocks the even higher frequencies of sunlight.

The 5G radiation is so much weaker: a 5G cell transmits at 46 dBm the most, which is 40 Watts. And you hardly get closer than 100m to the antenna, which brings down the energy your body feels by a factor of 10.000 to the milliwatt range.

Your microwave oven generates microwave radiation of 600 W at least; most of that stays inside, but be sure that there is some leakage. And you get very close to the device. So Microwave Oven is “worse” for your body in terms of absorbed radiation than 5G.

Nonwithstanding that the worst thing Microwave can do to living cells is to burn them — like a stove element or a cup of hot water poured over you. Despite public rumors, there is no risk of cancer with Microwave. That risk comes with much much harder electromagnetic radiation, like sun light, ultraviolet, x-ray and gamma-ray. All the same sort of thing, but the mentioned ones have photons of million to billion times the energy, and can actually interfere with the chemistry of body cells. Microwave photons cannot.

 

[repoman]

Eye lens?

 

[RVonse]

5g cellular service is rolling out all across the country. Immense opposition is rising up. Issue was raised on a local FB page. People are saying it will cause cancer, boils, pestilence. One person locally said 5g causes the same symptoms as Covid 19 even though we don't have 5g here yet. Another said a 5g tower was activated and birds dropped dead from the sky.

Is there anything that can be done about the stupidity spreading about this subject.

No doubt they are idiots but consider this. In my 62 year lifetime I have personally witnessed this:

1. Doctors who smoked in the clinics and ash trays put on every armrest in the airplanes we rode in
2. Asbestos routinely used everywhere and even on the sides of homes
3. Construction workers troweling lead paint on the interior of my dad's brand new 1967 home.

So if someone says 5g may be a health concern I'm not going to dismiss that fact lightly. The science is very new possessing rf radiation that we may not fully understand yet without the benefit of history to tell us if it may cause people to have problems later in life.

But it is not even the health consequences of 5g that I am most concerned about anyway. It is the lack of privacy and possible tyranny to the population it may represent that bothers me most. I'm not sure we should embrace every new tech that comes along until we fully think through where it takes us.

 

[bilby]

The only plausible harm that could arise from 5G is that it might interfere with weather radars that currently use the same frequency band.

RF radiation has been comprehensively shown to be harmful to humans only if it causes heating of tissues.

Standing too close to a powerful radar transmitter, or breaking a microwave oven such that you can cook yourself, could be dangerous. No extant portable telephone technology could. Seriously. The energy is just too low. 5G is exactly as dangerous as 4G, 3G, electrical power lines, radio, television, and wi-fi. All were predicted to be deadly; None has ever harmed anyone.

 

[barbos]

The usually cite cellphone emissions, not cell tower. Cellphone antennas are very close to head and produce localized heat in the brain.

 

[bilby]

The usually cite cellphone emissions, not cell tower. Cellphone antennas are very close to head and are alleged with no good evidence to produce localized heat in the brain.

FTFY.

 

[Torin]

The usually cite cellphone emissions, not cell tower. Cellphone antennas are very close to head and are alleged with no good evidence to produce localized heat in the brain.

FTFY.

What makes you say there's no good evidence? Here are a couple of studies:

"Cell phone radiated radio frequency waves were effective on increasing brain tissue temperature, and this temperature increase has cumulative effect on the tissue, being higher, for some time after the confrontation than the time with no confrontation."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952570/

"During confrontation and after that with the cell phone, reducing the distance of brain tissue and the cell phone increased the tissue temperature intensely. In fact, by increasing the cell phone distance from brain tissue, the thermal effect of radiofrequency waves was reduced."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6071445/

I'm not a scientist, so I can't personally evaluate these studies, but at minimum it looks like this claim is taken seriously by the scientific community.

 

[barbos]

The usually cite cellphone emissions, not cell tower. Cellphone antennas are very close to head and according to energy conservation law produce localized heat in the brain.

FTFY.

FIFY your FYFY
Now, whether or not heat is harmful is a matter of debate.

 

[ZiprHead]

The usually cite cellphone emissions, not cell tower. Cellphone antennas are very close to head and are alleged with no good evidence to produce localized heat in the brain.

FTFY.

What makes you say there's no good evidence? Here are a couple of studies:

"Cell phone radiated radio frequency waves were effective on increasing brain tissue temperature, and this temperature increase has cumulative effect on the tissue, being higher, for some time after the confrontation than the time with no confrontation."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952570/

"During confrontation and after that with the cell phone, reducing the distance of brain tissue and the cell phone increased the tissue temperature intensely. In fact, by increasing the cell phone distance from brain tissue, the thermal effect of radiofrequency waves was reduced."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6071445/

I'm not a scientist, so I can't personally evaluate these studies, but at minimum it looks like this claim is taken seriously by the scientific community.

I wonder how this compares to exposing your head to the hot sun without a hat on the beach.

 

[Elixir]

What makes you say there's no good evidence? Here are a couple of studies:

"Cell phone radiated radio frequency waves were effective on increasing brain tissue temperature, and this temperature increase has cumulative effect on the tissue, being higher, for some time after the confrontation than the time with no confrontation."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952570/

"During confrontation and after that with the cell phone, reducing the distance of brain tissue and the cell phone increased the tissue temperature intensely. In fact, by increasing the cell phone distance from brain tissue, the thermal effect of radiofrequency waves was reduced."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6071445/

I'm not a scientist, so I can't personally evaluate these studies, but at minimum it looks like this claim is taken seriously by the scientific community.

I wonder how this compares to exposing your head to the hot sun without a hat on the beach.

Or talking on your cellphone while on the beach with no hat...
HELPFUL TIP:
USE THE GODDAM SPEAKERPHONE IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT IT (inverse square rules apply)

 

[krypton iodine sulfur]

Burn them. Burn the witches.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/4/21207927/5g-towers-burning-uk-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-link

5G phone masts are being set alight in the UK, after online conspiracy theories have misleadingly linked the cell towers to the coronavirus pandemic. The BBC reports that at least three 5G towers were set alight last week, and police and fire services were called to extinguish the flames.

Rumors and conspiracy theories over a link between the roll out of 5G and the spread of coronavirus have been spread primarily through social media networks. A variety of groups exist on Facebook and Nextdoor, where thousands of members repeat false and misleading claims that 5G is supposedly harmful.

5G turned me into a newt.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Of course continued exposure to 5G is dangerous, we aren't built to take that kind of pressure. You're liable to black out if you're not wearing a g-suit.

Now, if you mean the cellular transmitters--why should it be any different than other cellular transmitters? They're all dangerous at very close range, but they're put high up where nobody is going to be in front of them.

 

[ZiprHead]

Gaia-5G Health Risks; The War Between Technology and Human Beings

This is being referenced quite often.

 

[ZiprHead]

This incredible moron is causing a lot of trouble in the UK.

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/jOHoCGSp508[/YOUTUBE]

"LEDs are lethal."



BTW, the 5g expert studied psychology and sociology at Open University, a poorly rated on-line school.

 

[bilby]

The usually cite cellphone emissions, not cell tower. Cellphone antennas are very close to head and are alleged with no good evidence to produce localized heat in the brain.

FTFY.

What makes you say there's no good evidence? Here are a couple of studies:

"Cell phone radiated radio frequency waves were effective on increasing brain tissue temperature, and this temperature increase has cumulative effect on the tissue, being higher, for some time after the confrontation than the time with no confrontation."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952570/

"During confrontation and after that with the cell phone, reducing the distance of brain tissue and the cell phone increased the tissue temperature intensely. In fact, by increasing the cell phone distance from brain tissue, the thermal effect of radiofrequency waves was reduced."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6071445/

I'm not a scientist, so I can't personally evaluate these studies, but at minimum it looks like this claim is taken seriously by the scientific community.

Both of those studies are looking at 900MHz radiation, which is nowhere near the 5g band (24-72GHz).

 

[Bronzeage]

I remember hearing all these warnings before, but it was about microwave ovens.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I remember hearing all these warnings before, but it was about microwave ovens.

I think grandma was once worried about 'all those telephone wires' being strung across town. All that lectricity just...out there, where people were walking.