No. So now what?
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No. So now what?
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
As you were.
Except there's no way of being sure you're healthy. Wear the mask!
Elixir
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Masks worn by the pre-symptomatic protect the healthy.
Masks worn by the sick protect the healthcare professionals.
Masks worn by the healthy don't protect anyone.
Look at the strange death rate increases in the 5 selected causes of death. According to Jason, this is in no way related to anything special going on in the country. There just HAPPENS to be a 30% uptick in deaths from circulatory diseases. So weird, right? But not owrth looking into, of course, Nothing to see here. Move along.
In reality, anyone using reason and logic and a smidgen of science can see that there are COVID-deaths that are not marked as COVID deaths.
Otherwise, who are the ghouls not caring about a 30% increase in deaths for that month? (Data sitll pending for JUne and July)
It is obvious to the most casual observer that these people would NOT have died anyway this year and at this rate from their co-morbidities. The data are clear.
Or this one, summing up since February:
In reality, anyone using reason and logic and a smidgen of science can see that there are COVID-deaths that are not marked as COVID deaths.
Otherwise, who are the ghouls not caring about a 30% increase in deaths for that month? (Data sitll pending for JUne and July)
It is obvious to the most casual observer that these people would NOT have died anyway this year and at this rate from their co-morbidities. The data are clear.
Or this one, summing up since February:
This one is even better so that you can see the ones that we know happened early on when we were not taking seriously what was happening in Europe, and the even more STOOOPID deaths from those states that weren’t taking seriously what was happening in NY, and what the CDC was trying to tell them - combined with their dishonest reporting of data that Alzheimers in Texas was suddeny more lethall in 2020.
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Gee Jason, I have only been a certified First Responder, an adjunct to medical specialists and a supplier of PPE materials for about 30 years. How about you?
Yeah, sure - I bet that would be funny.
But first, what are your qualifications?
Did you read a lot of internet posts and watch some YouTube videos?
Did you read the comments sections too?
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
That would be round about the time where the elderly and infirm in care homes were exposed thanks to the STOOOOPID putting infected people in their environment. Good job.
Elixir
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Funny how libbertards run away when their shallow condescension is revealed to be a cover for their ignorance.
Perhaps they are "researching" (per Zipr's meme) some way to blame all those excess deaths on lib'rul policies or Hillary's child sex ring.
It's pretty obvious that COVID deaths have been, and are increasingly attributed to whatever comorbidity factor can be found.
The reported death count is almost certainly far lower than the actual number. The only question is "by how much".
You have completely and utterly missed the ENTIRE point; statistically, scientifically, medically and propagansdistically. Here, let me make it more clear:
The States listed above are calling obvious COVID deaths soemthing besides COVID. It may be from dishonesty, it may be from infrastructure deficits, it may be from wishful thinking.
But the conclusion, obvious in the data, is that Alzheimer deaths did NOT suddenly spike in 2020, it did NOT suddenly become more lethal in Texas, but not in NY. Rather, what you see is people who died from COVID, who would not have otherwise died from the other conditions that they had (and mostly have had for several years also without dying from it.)
The POINT is that these are COVID deaths, despite your attempt in your post above to claim that the USA is not above 150,000 COVID deaths.
Yes these are mostly stoopid deaths. The line of infection that included studpidly putting COVID patients back in nursing homes in NY should have been a caution to Texas and Florida and Georgia, but they stooopidly did not learn from New York’s stark lessons, nor did they put a stop to additional stoooopid behaviors like beach going and bars, which is how the disease got into nursing homes by way of family visits or grocery stores, then health care workers. SInce obviously the alzheimer’s patients are obviously not the ones at beaches and bars.
So: the point of the data: it is reasonable to conclude that ALL of these excess deaths are likely COVID, not an increase in diabletes or Alzheimers suddenly in March of 2020.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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Maybe wearing a mask is causing Alzheimer's.
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SLD
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TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
You’re arguing with yourself. Nobody here has said otherwise.
Elixir
Made in America
Maybe masks are causing Alzheimer's, and Alzheimer's is causing red State deaths to be forgotten before they can be reported.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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I am responding specifically to these posts which contiinue the claim that because tens of thousands of the dead also had diabetes or alzheimer’s they would have died anyway and/or that if they are not listed as COVID they are definitely not from COVID
Since those claims are fully rebutted by the excess death data and are therefore spurious attempts to claim that COVD is less of a danger than it actually is, and that the death toll is lower than it actually is, it is worth showing the data.
You’ll note that YOU were one of the people who “said otherwise” as you quote shows.
While you and Jason are certain to continue your opinin that 150,000 people have not died from COVID and/or those who have were going to die anyway, there are other people who read this forum who did not have this information and will draw conclusions based on actual data rather than blind ideology. It is for them that I post this information, not you two whose wont is to ignore data and use only propaganda for decision making.
Elixir
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Wow. Swizzle apparently believes that uttering his magic incantation "not really" automatically reassigns causes of death.
And out of the other side of his mouth, agrees that the excess deaths logged during the COVID epidemic are caused by COVID.
Why not just say "not really" again, and make those inconvenient "excess death" numbers go away, just like the reported COVID deaths?
Could it be that, like Jason - or Donald Trump - he lacks the rational capacity needed to allow facts to override his political wishes?
And in Jason's case, the mere definition of comorbidity.
And out of the other side of his mouth, agrees that the excess deaths logged during the COVID epidemic are caused by COVID.
Why not just say "not really" again, and make those inconvenient "excess death" numbers go away, just like the reported COVID deaths?
Could it be that, like Jason - or Donald Trump - he lacks the rational capacity needed to allow facts to override his political wishes?
And in Jason's case, the mere definition of comorbidity.
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
150,000 dead from Covid is inaccurate. It is an over estimate, we know this because it was admitted some time ago that many of the deaths were being attributed to Covid when it wasn't true or wasn't known. But specifically nobody I have seen on here has said anything about Alzheimer. You have built your own straw man and attacked it yourself. Carry on. I won't waste anymore time on your red herrings.
LOL, you are so full of yourself. Well, full of something.
J842P
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No, we don't know this, and no one has ever "admitted" this. You merely repeat this claim, pulled entirely from your ass, over and over without any evidence.