But I think it still is a possibility.
One can be reasonably certain that the universe and the earth are billions of years old. One can be reasonably certain that modern humans have existed for over a hundred thousand years. One can be reasonably certain that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago on earth.
I'm reasonably certain of those things.
....One can be reasonably certain that there was no Eden;...
If God exists then there could be an Eden - it wouldn't have left a trace anyway.
Not that the Eden part is that important….but:
Ge 3:24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life.
Ezekiel 31:9 ‘I made it beautiful with the multitude of its branches, And all the trees of Eden, which were in the garden of God, were jealous of it.
As Ezekiel is post Deluge...Has anyone discovered any Cherubim hanging around with flaming swords?
that there was no world encompassing flood/deluge; that there was no tower of Babel destroyed by some petty deity in order to cause the languages of the world;
I agree....
that there was never a day in which planetary objects froze for 24 hours;
I agree...
Great, then you should be able to recognize that the fundigelical version of Christian theology is BS, as you have now basically agreed that several items of their God-Breathed claims are BS. These are the primary groups pimping Hellfire and Brimstone for the masses…
that there is no more truth to the Exodus tale than there is to the Greek tale of Jason and the Golden Fleece (both have trivial archeological references).
I don't think you'd be able to find a website that demonstrates an equal amount of evidence to this:
http://creation.com/egyptian-history-and-the-biblical-record-a-perfect-match
Ok, it is time to drill into that sites spiel… I scanned thru that site, and between it making mountains out of mole hills, it ain’t worth much. What evidence do you see within the site that supports the 400 year slavery, and specifically the Biblical Hebrews? All I found is that they suggest that the Biblical time frame was a little different than others think, and that in this other time frame Egyptians had more slaves. Other than the ancient Hebrews getting a couple Egyptian king names right and a couple city names right, I see nothing about archeological support for the Moshe/Exodus fable.
Here is a line of utter bullshit:
linky said:
According to the Book of Genesis, Noah’s grandson, Mizraim,7 is the father of the Egyptians. In a revised chronology, Egypt comes into existence soon after the dispersion from Babel, around 2100 BC.
Sumarian and Egyptian archeology and written history (that we have dated copies of) reach back a thousand years before this date. And they had separate languages.
The below purported evidence is funny. The papyrus is older than the date they want for their fabled Exodus (per the creationist linky: “The biblical date for the Exodus is approximately 1445 BC”)
linky said:
In fact, there is a papyrus in the Leiden Museum in Holland which provides a graphic portrayal eerily reminiscent of the biblical account. There is no consensus among archaeologists as to when it was originally penned
The Ipuwer Papyrus dates from 2100-1700 BCE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_Papyrus
The association of the Ipuwer Papyrus with the Exodus as describing the same event is generally rejected by Egyptologists.[28] Roland Enmarch, author of a new translation of the papyrus, notes: "The broadest modern reception of Ipuwer amongst non-Egyptological readers has probably been as a result of the use of the poem as evidence supporting the Biblical account of the Exodus."[29] While Enmarch himself rejects synchronizing the texts of the Ipuwer Papyrus and The Book of Exodus on grounds of historicity, in The reception of a Middle Egyptian poem: The Dialogue of Ipuwer.. he acknowledges that there are some textual parallels "particularly the striking statement that 'the river is blood and one drinks from it' (Ipuwer 2.10), and the frequent references to servants abandoning their subordinate status (e.g. Ipuwer 3.14–4.1; 6.7–8; 10.2–3). On a literal reading, these are similar to aspects of the Exodus account."[30] Commenting on such attempts to draw parallels, he writes that "all these approaches read Ipuwer hyper-literally and selectively" and points out that there are also conflicts between Ipuwer and the Biblical account, such as Ipuwer's lamentation of an Asiatic (Semitic) invasion rather than a mass departure.
This site wants the Exodus to be centuries after this papyrus was made, but thinks this somehow supports their fable. When you want to string your delusions together to form a narrative, one should try and avoid contradicting other parts of your narrative. This artifact is damaging to their claim, and suggests, if anything, that some Hebrew story teller had heard the Egyptian saga, and borrowed part of it.
Everything else is built upon conjecture based upon missing bits of Egyptian history… Here is a funny bit they don’t mention: Do you know what the name Moses (Moshe) means in Egyptian? It basically means “son of”. Who names their son, “son of”? That is a solid hint of a Hebrew story teller who didn’t know much of anything about the Egyptian language, or that the name got adjusted as the tale was orally passed down. The whole “it sounds like ‘to draw out’, like out of water in ancient Hebrew”, is made up gibberish.
I'm not saying that link is convincing, just that I think you're exaggerating about the evidence for Jason and the Golden Fleece. (I didn't research it at all though)
Well, the Jason point is hardly that important, but was provided as just one example from history where fables and real historical cities and people intersect. It is actually pretty common. Archeologists have found the probable city of Iolkos, from which King Pelias probably reigned.
http://mmtaylor.net/Holiday2000/Legends/trojan.war.html
According to another legend, Jason sought the Golden Fleece in Colchis (modern Georgia). One way of extracting gold, like our modern panning, was to drag a sheepskin--a fleece--through the gold-bearing sand of the river. The gold stuck to the fleece, creating a golden fleece. Recent archaelogical discoveries suggest that Jason's Mycenean Iolkos was in Thessaly, the part of Mycenean Greece nearest the Dardanelles, and thus a place likely to have traded through the Dardanelles (Toronto Star, July 28, 2001).
A PDF covering it a bit more:
www.achilles-thessaly.org/articles-research-reports/FORTRESSES_AND_THOLOS_TOMBS_2.pdf
The Mycenaean site, not open for public view, is below to the right. King Pelias of Jason and the Argonauts fame ruled from this vicinity.
