Six-year-old in North Carolina arrested for picking flower from lawn

[ZiprHead]

https://bnc.tv/six-year-old-north-carolina-arrested-picking-flower-from-lawn/

According to the Winston-Salem Journal, a six-year-old boy was recently charged with injury to real property for picking a tulip from a yard at his bus stop.

Julie Boyer, the boy’s attorney, said his attention span was short, so she had him color a picture during court proceedings.

The 2020 North Carolina Tsk Force for Racial Equity in Criminal Justice report recommends raising the age to 12. The National Juvenile Justice Network recommends a rise to the age of 14.

“A 6-year-old … we’re talking about someone that’s in kindergarten, first grade. They don’t understand the process, they don’t understand what’s going on, they probably don’t even know their address,” Lyana Hunter of the New Hanover County public defender’s office told WECT News 6. “The earlier that you introduce a child to the criminal justice system, the higher the chances are that they will remain in the criminal justice system.”

She says the behavior that sends children into the juvenile system is better addressed in therapy.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You're wasting tax payers dollars and your time, the boy should be in school not the court house." - <a href="https://twitter.com/ItsMikeHill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ItsMikeHill</a> North Carolina send 6-year-old to court for picking a tulip from a yard at his bus stop. He is on trial in juvenile court for injury to real property. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StartYourDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StartYourDay</a> <a href="https://t.co/LuUqxf393k">pic.twitter.com/LuUqxf393k</a></p>— BNC (@BNCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNCNews/status/1372886670572412936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

 

[Metaphor]

https://bnc.tv/six-year-old-north-carolina-arrested-picking-flower-from-lawn/

According to the Winston-Salem Journal, a six-year-old boy was recently charged with injury to real property for picking a tulip from a yard at his bus stop.

Julie Boyer, the boy’s attorney, said his attention span was short, so she had him color a picture during court proceedings.

The 2020 North Carolina Tsk Force for Racial Equity in Criminal Justice report recommends raising the age to 12. The National Juvenile Justice Network recommends a rise to the age of 14.

“A 6-year-old … we’re talking about someone that’s in kindergarten, first grade. They don’t understand the process, they don’t understand what’s going on, they probably don’t even know their address,” Lyana Hunter of the New Hanover County public defender’s office told WECT News 6. “The earlier that you introduce a child to the criminal justice system, the higher the chances are that they will remain in the criminal justice system.”

She says the behavior that sends children into the juvenile system is better addressed in therapy.

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"You're wasting tax payers dollars and your time, the boy should be in school not the court house." - <a href="https://twitter.com/ItsMikeHill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ItsMikeHill</a> North Carolina send 6-year-old to court for picking a tulip from a yard at his bus stop. He is on trial in juvenile court for injury to real property. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StartYourDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StartYourDay</a> <a href="https://t.co/LuUqxf393k">pic.twitter.com/LuUqxf393k</a></p>— BNC (@BNCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNCNews/status/1372886670572412936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

Gospa moja.

No one under the age of 10 can be charged with a criminal offense, with ages 10-13 a burden of proof on the prosecution that the minor understood what they were doing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-21/un-australia-raise-the-age-of-criminal-responsibility/13078380

EDIT: IN Australia I mean

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Who in the world is prosecuting this? The judge dismissed the case, at the very least.

 

[TV and credit cards]

More of a threat to society is a person who would report such a thing.

 

[laughing dog]

There is something wrong with whomever arrested the child and something even more wrong with whomever is prosecuting this child.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

More of a threat to society is a person who would report such a thing.

Yeah, I'm really hoping the report is a lie and the kid was dancing and kicking up a large garden, then undid their pants and pooped on it.

Because if someone actually called in a complaint about a young boy picking one of their Tulips... a fucking blooming for only a few days worthless flower... they've got problems.

And this is the tip of the iceberg, as then you need the police to not hang up on the caller, someone to take the complaint seriously, then formal paperwork put together (because we all know Juvenile services are just saturated with people with no work to do) and then some asshole to say, 'yeah, I'll take this before a judge'.

 

[TV and credit cards]

More of a threat to society is a person who would report such a thing.

Yeah, I'm really hoping the report is a lie and the kid was dancing and kicking up a large garden, then undid their pants and pooped on it.

Because if someone actually called in a complaint about a young boy picking one of their Tulips... a fucking blooming for only a few days worthless flower... they've got problems.

And this is the tip of the iceberg, as then you need the police to not hang up on the caller, someone to take the complaint seriously, then formal paperwork put together (because we all know Juvenile services are just saturated with people with no work to do) and then some asshole to say, 'yeah, I'll take this before a judge'.

Yeah. That’s what I was thinking. There has to be an entire chain of dickery, right down to a tulip in an evidence locker.

Prosecutor: Exibit A, your honor.
Six year old: Mine!
Fifty-seven year old prisoner: And that’s all I really remember of it.

 

[Swammerdami]

AFAICT, news stories do not (yet) reveal the race of the 6 year-old victim. (Is keeping the race secret a form of political correctness?)

Is anyone here making book on the victim's race, once known? What odds must I give to back 'Black'?

 

[Metaphor]

AFAICT, news stories do not (yet) reveal the race of the 6 year-old victim. (Is keeping the race secret a form of political correctness?)

Is anyone here making book on the victim's race, once known? What odds must I give to back 'Black'?

My bet would be on "non-white". Had the child been white, the press would not have hesitated in disclosing his race.

 

[Tigers!]

Was the flower a rare one of special one?

Seems like OTT to me.

 

[ZiprHead]

AFAICT, news stories do not (yet) reveal the race of the 6 year-old victim. (Is keeping the race secret a form of political correctness?)

Is anyone here making book on the victim's race, once known? What odds must I give to back 'Black'?

As I understand, the child is in fact black.

 

[Elixir]

Had the child been white, the press would not have hesitated in disclosing his race.

Had the child been white there would not have been any "arrest" nor any disclosure of the heinous crime whatsoever. .

 

[Gun Nut]

This was not supposed to go to court. When a very young person does something that an adult would be held accountable for, and enters the criminal justice system by way of a civilian complaint, the complaint is served to the PARENTS of the youth to answer in court. The outcome would never be jail... it would be community service and/or referral to mental health care (out or inpatient).
In this case, the parents failed to show up to court, so the court was forced to serve the youth directly. Once the Judge came to understand what happened, he dismissed the case.

So, the court asked to speak with the parents about the complaint, they failed to appear, so the kid got pulled in. This was a case of black parents being disengaged from their child... which is a statistic that police records show... that white kid's parents take accountability and that black parents just want the cops to leave their kids alone to do whatever they want to anyone's property.
Complaints are surprisingly evenly split between black and white kids... surprising to me, I mean. However, white parents show up for court 80% of the time and black parents show up 40% of the time.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This was not supposed to go to court. When a very young person does something that an adult would be held accountable for, and enters the criminal justice system by way of a civilian complaint, the complaint is served to the PARENTS of the youth to answer in court. The outcome would never be jail... it would be community service and/or referral to mental health care (out or inpatient).
In this case, the parents failed to show up to court, so the court was forced to serve the youth directly.

Were they? Are the courts completely at the whim of protocol?

Once the Judge came to understand what happened, he dismissed the case.

Sounds like it didn't need to bring the youth in at all.

So, the court asked to speak with the parents about the complaint, they failed to appear, so the kid got pulled in. This was a case of black parents being disengaged from their child... which is a statistic that police records show... that white kid's parents take accountability and that black parents just want the cops to leave their kids alone to do whatever they want to anyone's property.

We know this happened? Can it be demonstrated that the parent(s) didn't care or didn't have time or had no idea what in the heck was going on?

We don't know what exactly happened with the 6 year old, and what damage they actually caused. But certainly, not without multiple situations of wanton destruction (of which is a 6 year old really capable of), why did anyone need to be involved?

Complaints are surprisingly evenly split between black and white kids... surprising to me, I mean. However, white parents show up for court 80% of the time and black parents show up 40% of the time.

Is this in general for actual offenses or just garden pickings?

 

[ZiprHead]

Maybe the parents gave the notice the just perusal it deserved. This is showing the insanity of subjecting children as young as 6 to the legal system.

 

[TomC]

Maybe the parents gave the notice the just perusal it deserved. This is showing the insanity of subjecting children as young as 6 to the legal system.

Then again, maybe the parents are so accustomed to ignoring their children's bad behavior that they blew off a court summons. Sounds like a kid on the road to prison.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

Maybe the parents gave the notice the just perusal it deserved. This is showing the insanity of subjecting children as young as 6 to the legal system.

Then again, maybe the parents are so accustomed to ignoring their children's bad behavior that they blew off a court summons. Sounds like a kid on the road to prison.
Tom

He's fucking SIX, Tom.
Sheesh. I'd ignore any summons or citation issued on a six year old if I had one. Especially if it was for picking flowers.

 

[WAB]

More of a threat to society is a person who would report such a thing.

I agree completely.

 

[TomC]

Maybe the parents gave the notice the just perusal it deserved. This is showing the insanity of subjecting children as young as 6 to the legal system.

Then again, maybe the parents are so accustomed to ignoring their children's bad behavior that they blew off a court summons. Sounds like a kid on the road to prison.
Tom

He's fucking SIX, Tom.
Sheesh. I'd ignore any summons or citation issued on a six year old if I had one. Especially if it was for picking flowers.

But the parents aren't. They apparently didn't care what happened to the kid enough to respond to a summons served to them. They're action of blowing off a summons is why the cops involved the kid in the system. The parents picked this state of affairs.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

He's fucking SIX, Tom.
Sheesh. I'd ignore any summons or citation issued on a six year old if I had one. Especially if it was for picking flowers.

But the parents aren't.

So what? They gave the notice the response it deserved. But being black, that wasn't good enough.
Now YOU say the six year old is headed to jail, because his parents failed to show the extreme unwarranted subservience expected of them.