The World is Stupid

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's worst than stupid, it's full blown retard;



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No wonder so many people opt out of state schools in California and go private and homeschool.

I heard about this yesterday on a local talk radio show. It's insane. Reminded me of 8th grade history when we were learning about WWII. Our teacher asked if anyone heard of the "goosestep". I was sitting in the front row and raised my hand, figuring most of the class had heard of it as well. I was the only to raise his hand. The teacher massively coerced me (I was very shy then) to get up in front of everyone and walk the goosestep. I can only imagine the chaos if I were to do that today and some busybody SJW walked by the classroom with me marching the goosestep. No doubt I would be expelled and the teacher put on leave for promoting Nazis.

Come to think of it, I can remember doodling in that class and drawing swastikas. Maybe I really am evil deep down inside?!

This issue deserves a different thread.

 

[TomC]

No, racism is systemic bigotry in the legal code. You are confusing bigotry with racism.

Here's a great quote from Lewis Carroll

Alice asks Humpty Dumpty, only to get this answer: “When I use a word… it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”

Very appropos to your post.


By your standards, the USA hasn't any racism any more. We used to have legislation that discriminated hugely against black people. But we don't any more.

If anything, we've got legislation discriminating in favor of black citizens. It's generally called Affirmative Action.

Didn't black farmers get a set aside, money earmarked for them, simply because they are black? Show me a U.S. government policy that gives anybody else that sort of entitlement.
Tom

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's worst [sic] than stupid, it's full blown [sic] retard;[sic]

...dimwitted [sic] principle [sic]...

Never mind.

 

[Shadowy Man]

No wonder so many people opt out of state schools in California and go private and homeschool.

Prior to the pandemic, enrollment in private schools in California was actually on the decline.

See, for example, the following statistics: https://www.cde.ca.gov/sp/ps/cefprivinstr.asp

It'd be interesting to see what the real reasons Californians have for choosing private schools (likely mostly religious ones) rather than assuming it is consistent with your personal projection.

 

[ZiprHead]

It's worse than stupid, it's full blown retard;

A Sacramento high school teacher has been placed on leave after displaying the Nazi flag during a World War II history lesson, school officials said Wednesday. In a letter to parents, Rio Americano High School Principal Brian Ginter said that the teacher will be on administrative leave until the investigation is over. The teacher teaches English and Social Science at the high school. Raj Rai, spokesperson for San Juan Unified School District, said students told staff about the flag on May 13 and that the flag came down the next day. She added that the students who alerted staff were passersby and not part of the class. It's not known how many days the flag was displayed before the district became aware. Rai said the issue at hand is not about a history lesson, but instead, she said it is about students being made uncomfortable by the flag, the flag's prominent presence in the classroom, and that symbol being in the classroom.

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“While images and symbols representative of hate may be used in textbooks and resource materials to provide historical context, displaying a flag with a swastika in such an egregious manner was unnecessary and created an unsafe environment for students,” Ginter said in the letter.

No wonder so many people opt out of state schools in California and go private and homeschool.

So they're transferring to schools where they can display nazi flags?

 

[TSwizzle]

No wonder so many people opt out of state schools in California and go private and homeschool.

Prior to the pandemic, enrollment in private schools in California was actually on the decline.

See, for example, the following statistics: https://www.cde.ca.gov/sp/ps/cefprivinstr.asp

It'd be interesting to see what the real reasons Californians have for choosing private schools (likely mostly religious ones) rather than assuming it is consistent with your personal projection.

The decline might have something to do with the middle class leaving the state.

 

[Shadowy Man]

No wonder so many people opt out of state schools in California and go private and homeschool.

Prior to the pandemic, enrollment in private schools in California was actually on the decline.

See, for example, the following statistics: https://www.cde.ca.gov/sp/ps/cefprivinstr.asp

It'd be interesting to see what the real reasons Californians have for choosing private schools (likely mostly religious ones) rather than assuming it is consistent with your personal projection.

The decline might have something to do with the middle class leaving the state.

I’ll just assume that’s a wild, unsubstantiated guess.

 

[TSwizzle]

I’ll just assume that’s a wild, unsubstantiated guess.

What, nobody from the middle class has left the state of California ?

 

[Shadowy Man]

I’ll just assume that’s a wild, unsubstantiated guess.

What, nobody from the middle class has left the state of California ?

So, if someone from the middle class has left the state of California therefore the decline of private school enrollment is due to that? It’s the latter part that is the unsubstantiated guess. Just because two facts may be true doesn’t mean that one is the cause of the other.

Can you at least try to have a logical argument here? I’d be happy to agree with your conclusions if they actually can be shown to be true. I’m not being contrary for the sake of arguing with you.

 

[TSwizzle]

I’ll just assume that’s a wild, unsubstantiated guess.

What, nobody from the middle class has left the state of California ?

So, if someone from the middle class has left the state of California therefore the decline of private school enrollment is due to that?

I am merely suggesting it may be a contributing factor among others.

Can you at least try to have a logical argument here?

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[Shadowy Man]

So, if someone from the middle class has left the state of California therefore the decline of private school enrollment is due to that?

I am merely suggesting it may be a contributing factor among others.

Can you at least try to have a logical argument here?

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Sure, if you can look up some statistics before assuming your beliefs of those statistics are correct.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I heard about this yesterday on a local talk radio show. It's insane. Reminded me of 8th grade history when we were learning about WWII. Our teacher asked if anyone heard of the "goosestep". I was sitting in the front row and raised my hand, figuring most of the class had heard of it as well. I was the only to raise his hand. The teacher massively coerced me (I was very shy then) to get up in front of everyone and walk the goosestep. I can only imagine the chaos if I were to do that today and some busybody SJW walked by the classroom with me marching the goosestep. No doubt I would be expelled and the teacher put on leave for promoting Nazis.

Come to think of it, I can remember doodling in that class and drawing swastikas. Maybe I really am evil deep down inside?!

Stupid teacher! I've heard of the "goosestep"--but knowing it was the Nazi march doesn't mean I know how to march it!

 

[DrZoidberg]

Do you agree that the wokes are bigots?

No, I do not. I agree that someone who is woke can be a bigot, but it is not necessarily so.

I will also note that you earlier admitted to being too liberal in your usage of the term "woke", so why don't your drop that term and use one that more accurately describes who you are talking about?

Then you don't understand what the word bigot means. You're free to come back after you looked it up. Or you truly don't think wokes are bigots which is terrifying. Nothing is more terrifying than evil people convinced of their goodness.

Yes, wokes are typically used about the left. But there is a corresponding behaviour on the right, that we take as a normal part of the right. So we don't react. But it's the same thing. It's labelling everybody with the wrong opinions as irredeemably wicked and who needs to be expunged from society.

 

[TSwizzle]

Do you agree that the wokes are bigots?

No doubt a lot of them are but most of them are just vicious bullies. There’s something wrong with them.

 

[TomC]

Do you agree that the wokes are bigots?

No doubt a lot of them are but most of them are just vicious bullies. There’s something wrong with them.

This could also be a description of Trump supporters.
Tom

 

[Angra Mainyu]

Do you agree that the wokes are bigots?

No doubt a lot of them are but most of them are just vicious bullies. There’s something wrong with them.

Why do you think so?

At least in my experience (talking to them online, watching their behavior in general) most are bigots. Also most of them engage in some false and unwarranted accusations, label, etc., believing they are right - a common bigoted behavior.

As for being bullies, many (I'm not sure what percentage) engage in online bullying when following their religion, but that seems to be:

1. Generally not as vicious as physical bullying.
2. Pretty common in online disagreements, even about the silliest things. It looks like a pretty common human feature when there is no face-to-face interaction, not a particularly Wokean one.

Maybe most are vicious bullies - I just haven't seen enough evidence - but even so, I would be inclined to think they're probably also bigots; at least, their behavior involving their Woke beliefs usually shows bigotry as far as I can tell.

 

[TSwizzle]

Bigots and bullies, bullies and bigots whatever way round or permutation fits. Arseholes the lot of them and they need a slap.

 

[KeepTalking]

Do you agree that the wokes are bigots?

No, I do not. I agree that someone who is woke can be a bigot, but it is not necessarily so.

I will also note that you earlier admitted to being too liberal in your usage of the term "woke", so why don't your drop that term and use one that more accurately describes who you are talking about?

Then you don't understand what the word bigot means. You're free to come back after you looked it up. Or you truly don't think wokes are bigots which is terrifying. Nothing is more terrifying than evil people convinced of their goodness.

Thanks for the tip, it is probably about time we consulted the dictionary in this thread.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
Definition of bigot
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke
Definition of woke (Entry 1 of 2)
chiefly US slang
: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Going by the dictionary definitions, it does not seem to me that wokes are necessarily bigots. I am sorry if I terrify you, it is not my intent. If, however, you are actually terrified by my posts, that would shine a bit of light on why you think social pressure is such a bad thing.

Yes, wokes are typically used about the left.

I don't understand what you mean by this. Can you rephrase?

But there is a corresponding behaviour on the right, that we take as a normal part of the right. So we don't react. But it's the same thing. It's labelling everybody with the wrong opinions as irredeemably wicked and who needs to be expunged from society.

I'm not sure who you mean by "we". I happen to have good friends on the right. We are able to talk about politics without violence. I have been known to call them idiots for voting for Trump, and they have been known to call me a dumbass for supporting Hillary, though many of them were surprisingly fine with my supporting Bernie Sanders. A couple of them even voted for Biden after Trump's first term. We do not view each other as irredeemably wicked, or needing to be expunged from society, we have a laugh and a beer while we talk politics. I am not sure why you assume such bad things about those with whom you disagree, but in my experience few of the supporters of either side are extremists about it. That's kind of why we call them extremists.

 

[Swammerdami]

Hello, pot:

... Or you truly don't think wokes are bigots which is terrifying. Nothing is more terrifying than evil people convinced of their goodness.

Meet kettle:

... It's labelling everybody with the wrong opinions as irredeemably wicked and who needs to be expunged from society.

 

[Swammerdami]

Are these right-wing idiots self-aware at all?

Here's Tucker Carlson on FoxNews claiming that Lloyd Austin regards "Americans who didn't vote for Joe Biden" as a threat. Carlson then plays a clip, demonstrating that Austin's complaint was against "sexual assault, ... racists and extremists."

Carlson "earns" $6 million per year as a Foxette. Would he be able to get even half that if he hadn't cultivated his signature Stooge expression?