Black militia man shoots a police officer in the head in Florida

[Bullmoose Too]

Back in the 90s and early 2000s the group that killed the most police officers was the Sovereign Citizen Movement. Whom were largely made up of white people, politically right wing, and believed in conspiracy theories to back up there ideology.

Not necessarily. There are many black "sovereign citizens".
Example Korryn Gaines, who threatened police with a long gun and got shot herself.
Or William "Nietzsche" Kinney, who led the Antifa Red House occupation because he wanted to live in house without paying the mortgage.

That’s why I wrote “largely” and not all.

 

[Gospel]

American Prisons are filled with the majority of black people

Is it the majority? I know for sure it is disproportionate to population, but not sure about it being a majority.
In any case, a solution would be to stop committing a disproportionate share of crime. For example, blacks commit homicides at ~5x the rate of whites.

and Derec is acting like the USA is letting black people get away with everything. lol

Often that is the case. Take this O-Zone. Long rap sheet. Many felony arrests, but they have been pleaded down to misdemeanors each time. That's getting away with shit.

Oh please Derec. You're the one parading around shouting rubbish about black supremacy groups not being a concern. Sure, focus on my inaccurate statement about the actual prison populations and ignore the fact that black people, in general, aren't being allowed to get away with anything which obviously (if your IQ is high enough) would include black supremacy groups.

That pleading down felony to misdemeanors happens with white people too. Duh.

 

[Gospel]

Hey Derec, FYI, the government that is letting black supremacists do whatever they want has joined the hunt for Othal Wallace. Just wanted to let Derek Chauvin's bleeding heart inside of you know, everything will be ok.

Not sure about that. Maybe he'll escape to Cuba like Joanne Chesimard, murderer and heroine of #BLM and Women's March 2017.

Your fantasy didn't become true so you may want to return that lotion to Amazon. He's been captured.

 

[Toni]

OMG, how terrible that we haven't forgotten that people tried to overthrow the government of the United States at the behest of the then sitting POTUS who didn't like the election results! I mean, it's been five and half months already.

#BLMers have been doing a lot more damage with their rioting and occupations. And not only property damage, but deaths too. Including an 8 year old girl in Atlanta.

Fucking bullshit, Derec. This makes me more angry than almost anything I've ever read, anywhere.

The 1/6 insurrection was an armed attempt to overthrow our government. They hung a noose for our vice president, whom I despise but that doesn't matter whether I like him or not. And they did this at the behest of the sitting POTUS.

And there you are all bent out of shape about having your favorite route in a city you've never visited blocked by a demonstration.
If you want to talk about people with guns killing children, why not bring up Sandy Hook? Or any of the other school shootings.

Or how about this: How about any of the 112 children shot by police between 2015 and 2020?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/12/children-police-shootings/

We should all be happy to do what your overlord Trump declares we should do and forget about the whole thing. Big nothing burger.

My overlord? I did not even vote for him either time.

Then quit carrying water for him and his base.

 

[Toni]

When someone tries to equate the significance of a single isolated act by an individual - whether it's this guy or the guy who killed 16 people at a Boulder Supermarket - with the significance of a right wing white supremacist MOB storming the Capitol to prevent Congress from doing its Constitutionally mandated job ...

And again January 6th. Of course, that single day of rioting in a single city pales in significance to the months of #BLM/Antifa rioting in many cities that caused a lot of property damage and deaths. Including to federal government buildings btw.

In your mind.

This was a direct attack on our nation by citizens motivated by the power madness and ego of an outgoing POTUS. The fact that you cannot see or acknowledge this is really beyond the pale.

But then, you care more about property than you do about human lives.

Or maybe it's just because almost all of the insurrectionists were white. And the lives of congress were saved by the quick thinking and courage of a black man.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

New Black Panthers are bad guys. Just nowhere near the scale of the scumbags on the right. Finding one scumbag doesn't prove the two sides are equal.

Why do you think they are not "nowhere near the scale" as the right-wing militias?
Racist scumbag is racist scumbag. No matter your hue.

"Scale" as in numbers, not as in wrongness.

 

[Gospel]

New Black Panthers are bad guys. Just nowhere near the scale of the scumbags on the right. Finding one scumbag doesn't prove the two sides are equal.

Why do you think they are not "nowhere near the scale" as the right-wing militias?
Racist scumbag is racist scumbag. No matter your hue.

"Scale" as in numbers, not as in wrongness.

Derec can't separate the two. Never has, never will.

 

[atrib]

You mean when they commit treason and break into the Capitol based on lies?

If we did a January 6th drinking game, we'd all suffer from alcohol poisoning. That was one day of rioting, and it gets brought up all the fucking time!

That was an armed insurgency intended to topple the democratically elected government of the country by invading the seat of government. And they succeeded in disrupting our lawmakers from doing their job for several hours. That's why it gets brought up all the time. Because its a pretty big fucking deal.

Most reasonable people agree that ALL forms of violent extremism are bad. I don't think you will find many people here rejecting this basic premise. I do wonder why you only highlight bad acts committed by black people. Where is your outrage when white gunmen go on shooting rampages and kill people? Where are all the threads you have started to express your outrage at these incidents?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

But this is what happens when the powers that be pretend that white supremacism is the only type of supremacism and extremism that we should be concerned about ...

Not this shit again. Not certain how many times Derec has posted links to stories of white people who murdered police officers. Oh wait... yes I am.

 

[Gospel]

It's just the usual act of blaming the effects for the cause. The very concept of racial supremacy is a European invention. Any idiot walking this earth advocating black supremacy is not only wrong & dangerous, they are also following the lead of their sensei's.

 

[Elixir]

OMG, how terrible that we haven't forgotten that people tried to overthrow the government of the United States at the behest of the then sitting POTUS who didn't like the election results!

#BLMers have been doing a lot more damage with their rioting and occupations. ...
My overlord? I did not even vote for him either time.

You're sure making amends for that "mistake" now, though.
Trying to equate Property Damage caused in the course of protest by people who have been dying by the score at the hands of police, and who have suffered for hundreds of years at the hands of privileged white people - equating that with a violent, murderous mob of privileged white people attempting to end American democracy, kill duly elected representatives and institute an autocracy - all because the murderous orange psychopath they favored LOST AN ELECTION! Murdering and maiming over a hundred police officers in the process and TRASHING the NATION'S CAPITOL..
That kind of false equivalence is sheer scumbaggery by any measure.
tRump would be beaming with pride to know you're out there "fighting" for him so stridently.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's just the usual act of blaming the effects for the cause. The very concept of racial supremacy is a European invention. Any idiot walking this earth advocating black supremacy is not only wrong & dangerous, they are also following the lead of their sensei's.

Quite a bit of racism in China and that's not a European import.

I had relatives in China that I have never met--because the link to those relatives was someone who felt my wife did wrong in marrying outside her race. (Ironically, now that the relevant marriage has failed I might end up meeting them!)

There was also the restaurant (here in the US) we ate at one day--a bunch of Chinese waitresses who had no problem with my wife marrying an American--that is, until they found out it's not a green card marriage.

We have also had relatives worried about us visiting parts of China where the Han culture isn't dominant.

There's also the day in Zambia my parents were arrested as spies--for the crime of being white and in a crowd. (The idiot's supervisor quickly realized how stupid it was and released them.)

Europeans have no monopoly on racism.

 

[Gospel]

It's just the usual act of blaming the effects for the cause. The very concept of racial supremacy is a European invention. Any idiot walking this earth advocating black supremacy is not only wrong & dangerous, they are also following the lead of their sensei's.

Quite a bit of racism in China and that's not a European import.

I had relatives in China that I have never met--because the link to those relatives was someone who felt my wife did wrong in marrying outside her race. (Ironically, now that the relevant marriage has failed I might end up meeting them!)

There was also the restaurant (here in the US) we ate at one day--a bunch of Chinese waitresses who had no problem with my wife marrying an American--that is, until they found out it's not a green card marriage.

We have also had relatives worried about us visiting parts of China where the Han culture isn't dominant.

There's also the day in Zambia my parents were arrested as spies--for the crime of being white and in a crowd. (The idiot's supervisor quickly realized how stupid it was and released them.)

Europeans have no monopoly on racism.

Nice, it's too bad none of that disputes the fact that the concept of racial supremacy is a European invention. I offer you my sincere condolences.

 

[Gospel]

Feel like I need to elaborate a little. There is a difference between being a racist and a supremacist. Everyone is guilty of racism but not everyone is guilty of wanting to kill & or enslave other races because they are the superior race. Kna mean? Racial Supremacy is a European invention.

 

[TomC]

Feel like I need to elaborate a little. There is a difference between being a racist and a supremacist. Everyone is guilty of racism but not everyone is guilty of wanting to kill & or enslave other races because they are the superior race. Kna mean? Racial Supremacy is a European invention.

I disagree.

Humans are a tribal species, always have been. Euro-Christian colonialism took that to a new level, but they didn't invent it.

Had Asian people or African people weaponized gunpowder and smallpox and navigation technology as early as Europeans did, history would be extremely different.
Tom

 

[Gospel]

Feel like I need to elaborate a little. There is a difference between being a racist and a supremacist. Everyone is guilty of racism but not everyone is guilty of wanting to kill & or enslave other races because they are the superior race. Kna mean? Racial Supremacy is a European invention.

I disagree.

Humans are a tribal species, always have been. Euro-Christian colonialism took that to a new level, but they didn't invent it.

Had Asian people or African people weaponized gunpowder and smallpox and navigation technology as early as Europeans did, history would be extremely different.
Tom

Bollocks. Europeans didn't invent war, they didn't invent slavery, they didn't invent racism, they didn't even invent colonization. But there is no historical evidence that anything similar to the Europeans invention called racial supremacy nor their style of slavery existed prior to the Europeans. And boy did they like to write everything down.


Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
Do you see the perpetrator? Yeah, I'm right here
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years


~MF DOOM~

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Feel like I need to elaborate a little. There is a difference between being a racist and a supremacist. Everyone is guilty of racism but not everyone is guilty of wanting to kill & or enslave other races because they are the superior race. Kna mean? Racial Supremacy is a European invention.

I disagree.

Humans are a tribal species, always have been. Euro-Christian colonialism took that to a new level, but they didn't invent it.

Had Asian people or African people weaponized gunpowder and smallpox and navigation technology as early as Europeans did, history would be extremely different.
Tom

This. Europe got a big advantage from it's position (see Guns, Germs & Steel to understand why) but they simply had more ability to do what most everybody was trying to do.

 

[J842P]

Feel like I need to elaborate a little. There is a difference between being a racist and a supremacist. Everyone is guilty of racism but not everyone is guilty of wanting to kill & or enslave other races because they are the superior race. Kna mean? Racial Supremacy is a European invention.

I disagree.

Humans are a tribal species, always have been. Euro-Christian colonialism took that to a new level, but they didn't invent it.

Had Asian people or African people weaponized gunpowder and smallpox and navigation technology as early as Europeans did, history would be extremely different.
Tom

Bollocks. Europeans didn't invent war, they didn't invent slavery, they didn't invent racism, they didn't even invent colonization. But there is no historical evidence that anything similar to the Europeans invention called racial supremacy nor their style of slavery existed prior to the Europeans. And boy did they like to write everything down.


Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
Do you see the perpetrator? Yeah, I'm right here
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years


~MF DOOM~

I don't know where you get that idea. I've seen it circulating around a lot in place like twitter. But definitely, the Europeans did not invent chattel slavery, that has probably been around for a very long time, before even the modern Europeans lived in Europe. In any case, you can read the accounts from ancient Mesopotamia where the Akkadians (IIRC) decide that they are justified in going on slaving raids because their civilization is superior, and the surrounding hillsmen might as well be beasts.

The idea that some group is "just the best around" is hardly new, and there is a long history of using that perceived self-specialness as a justification for enslaving, conquering, and exploiting other peoples. The idea that this is unique to Europe is just ridiculous.

 

[J842P]

Feel like I need to elaborate a little. There is a difference between being a racist and a supremacist. Everyone is guilty of racism but not everyone is guilty of wanting to kill & or enslave other races because they are the superior race. Kna mean? Racial Supremacy is a European invention.

I disagree.

Humans are a tribal species, always have been. Euro-Christian colonialism took that to a new level, but they didn't invent it.

Had Asian people or African people weaponized gunpowder and smallpox and navigation technology as early as Europeans did, history would be extremely different.
Tom

Well, actually, Asians, the Chinese, invented gunpowder and weaponized it first. They also had very advanced navigational technology. Indeed, the Ming were well positioned to become colonialist (to a much greater extent than they already were) but they famously decided to "turn inward". So it might have just come down to historical idiosyncrasy.

 

[Gospel]

Bollocks. Europeans didn't invent war, they didn't invent slavery, they didn't invent racism, they didn't even invent colonization. But there is no historical evidence that anything similar to the Europeans invention called racial supremacy nor their style of slavery existed prior to the Europeans. And boy did they like to write everything down.


Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness
Do you see the perpetrator? Yeah, I'm right here
Fuck around, get the whole label sent up for years


~MF DOOM~

I don't know where you get that idea. I've seen it circulating around a lot in place like twitter. But definitely, the Europeans did not invent chattel slavery, that has probably been around for a very long time, before even the modern Europeans lived in Europe. In any case, you can read the accounts from ancient Mesopotamia where the Akkadians (IIRC) decide that they are justified in going on slaving raids because their civilization is superior, and the surrounding hillsmen might as well be beasts.

The idea that some group is "just the best around" is hardly new, and there is a long history of using that perceived self-specialness as a justification for enslaving, conquering, and exploiting other peoples. The idea that this is unique to Europe is just ridiculous.

The Akkadians treated their slaves better.

Edit: What I meant to say is, Akkadian slaves were slaves mainly because of poverty and/or war. European slaves derived from the stimulation of photoreceptor cells by electromagnetic radiation. It's not that complicated.