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Kyrsten Sinema - a DINO?

Manchin's betrayal made sense once it was pointed out that he was getting Big Buck$ from Charles Koch.

Do we know what trough Sinema is slurping from?
 
Harry Bosch said:
Swammerdami said:
Manchin's betrayal made sense once it was pointed out that he was getting Big Buck$ from Charles Koch.

Do we know what trough Sinema is slurping from?
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Ask, and you shall be rewarded with information!:

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/kyrsten-sinema/summary?cid=N00033983
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And here's the URL for Joe Manchin:

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/joe-manchin/summary?cid=N00032838

No obvious pointer here to Charles Koch, but big financial assistance to Manchin from Koch and his underlings was in the news recently. It seems OpenSecrets.org isn't showing the whole story clearly. (Is there a ClosedSecrets.org ? :) )
 
The real problem isn't with Manchin and Sinema. The real issue is the dems have such a tiny slim margin that they need their entire group united as one in order to enact meaningful legislation. And this despite super high vote turnout due to the need to defeat one of the worst presidents in our history. So yea, when the margin is so tight, the progressives don't have as much power. The moderates can run the day. If the progressives really wanted to carry the day, they'd seek to elevate democrats in republican areas, grow the coalition. If we had a much bigger majority, people like Manchin would not have much power. Instead, I fear that we're going to do too much infighting; and the republicans will come back strong in 22.
 
Harry Bosch said:
The real problem isn't with Manchin and Sinema. The real issue is the dems have such a tiny slim margin that they need their entire group united as one in order to enact meaningful legislation. And this despite super high vote turnout due to the need to defeat one of the worst presidents in our history. So yea, when the margin is so tight, the progressives don't have as much power. The moderates can run the day. If the progressives really wanted to carry the day, they'd seek to elevate democrats in republican areas, grow the coalition. If we had a much bigger majority, people like Manchin would not have much power. Instead, I fear that we're going to do too much infighting; and the republicans will come back strong in 22.
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I disagree that the moderates can run the day, or anything else. The best that can be said is that Republicanazis no longer have full free reign. But Manchin and Sinema are key to changing that.
What we have now are some 40-ish percent of the population and the electorate who call themselves Republicans, solidly united behind doing away with democracy and re-instating overt white supremacy as National policy.
Then we have the other 60 percent, composed of "everyone else". Which brings us to Manchin and Sinema ...
The major endeavor of the 40% is to exacerbate the many divisions within the 60%, using tools like Manchin and Sinema.
Turn the Big Tent into a bunch of smaller tents and voilá - Republicans are the biggest tent in town.
They are now a minority instead of the minority. They are in fact the most powerful minority, and there is no majority.
Once they succeed in doing away with democracy altogether (almost there, just a few finishing touches required) there will be no going back without unprecedented levels of bloodshed.
 
Living United for Change in Arizona (LUCHA), a grassroots group that led a coalition that knocked on 2.5 million doors that year, say they've been shut out by Sinema since she was elected.

Sinema "will not take meetings with us personally," César Fierros, the group's communications manager, told Salon, adding that meetings with her team have been "incredibly dismissive" and even "combative."
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The group has much better communications with AZ's other Senator, Mark Kelly. CF calls KS's record a "betrayal" of her voters, speaking of her "delusional defense of the filibuster."
Sinema is a co-sponsor of the Equality Act, which would grant civil rights protections to the LGBTQ community. But her defense of the filibuster means the bill has virtually no hope of advancing in the Senate after 50 Republicans used the rule to block debate on the legislation. Meanwhile, Republicans have introduced more than 250 pieces of anti-LGBTQ legislation in state legislatures, according to the Human Rights Campaign, which warned that 2021 is set to become the "worst year for LGBTQ state legislative attacks."
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How does she plan to get 10+ Republican votes to overcome their filibustering? If she has any plan to do that.
 
The Miracle In Georgia gave us hope. The pro-democracy Party had been unable to win the Senate when suddenly, from out of the Old Confederacy, Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff — a black man and a Jew, no less! — won special run-off elections, supposedly giving the Ds a bare 50+1 to 50 majority. Of course hope filled our hearts.

American democracy is on the verge of complete collapse. Social media have placed propagandists in control of the political debate, and evil-doers like Putin, Murdoch and Koch have used this power to steer us toward an autocracy that resembles Hitler's 80 years ago. The Rs continue at their work of subverting democracy, so the 2021 Congress may be our last hope.

And we find that two D Senators, both probably slurping at the trough of Big Money, want to help subvert American democracy. It would be unnatural not to blame these traitors for the impending destruction of democracy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/cyao05/i_wonder_why/ said:
Historians will have a word for Americans who voted with the Republican party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Republican." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
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I decided to check on KS's ideology score for her years in Congress.

Members of the United States Congress - GovTrack.us
It has scores back to 2014, and its scale is 0 = left, 1 = right.

House (AZ-09): 2014 0.43, 2016 0.56, 2018 0.70
Senate (AZ class I): 2020 0.68

So she's one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress.

I'll compare Joe Manchin.

Senate (TN class I): 2014 0.52, 2016 0.62, 2018 0.71, 2020 0.57
 
Elixir said:
Harry Bosch said:
The real problem isn't with Manchin and Sinema. The real issue is the dems have such a tiny slim margin that they need their entire group united as one in order to enact meaningful legislation. And this despite super high vote turnout due to the need to defeat one of the worst presidents in our history. So yea, when the margin is so tight, the progressives don't have as much power. The moderates can run the day. If the progressives really wanted to carry the day, they'd seek to elevate democrats in republican areas, grow the coalition. If we had a much bigger majority, people like Manchin would not have much power. Instead, I fear that we're going to do too much infighting; and the republicans will come back strong in 22.
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I disagree that the moderates can run the day, or anything else. The best that can be said is that Republicanazis no longer have full free reign. But Manchin and Sinema are key to changing that.
What we have now are some 40-ish percent of the population and the electorate who call themselves Republicans, solidly united behind doing away with democracy and re-instating overt white supremacy as National policy.
Then we have the other 60 percent, composed of "everyone else". Which brings us to Manchin and Sinema ...
The major endeavor of the 40% is to exacerbate the many divisions within the 60%, using tools like Manchin and Sinema.
Turn the Big Tent into a bunch of smaller tents and voilá - Republicans are the biggest tent in town.
They are now a minority instead of the minority. They are in fact the most powerful minority, and there is no majority.
Once they succeed in doing away with democracy altogether (almost there, just a few finishing touches required) there will be no going back without unprecedented levels of bloodshed.
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It's posts like this that bring me nearly to tears.

I have already been a soldier once. I don't want to be embroiled in another war, but I also know my principles and capabilities well enough to be certain I would end up involved, with blood on my hands.

Besides the death of my husband who is degenerative and has random bruising and for whom death is an eventual reality we have already paid forward some great amount of sadness to contemplate, this is my greatest fear and consternation.
 
Swammerdami said:
The Miracle In Georgia gave us hope. The pro-democracy Party had been unable to win the Senate when suddenly, from out of the Old Confederacy, Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff — a black man and a Jew, no less! — won special run-off elections, supposedly giving the Ds a bare 50+1 to 50 majority. Of course hope filled our hearts.

American democracy is on the verge of complete collapse. Social media have placed propagandists in control of the political debate, and evil-doers like Putin, Murdoch and Koch have used this power to steer us toward an autocracy that resembles Hitler's 80 years ago. The Rs continue at their work of subverting democracy, so the 2021 Congress may be our last hope.

And we find that two D Senators, both probably slurping at the trough of Big Money, want to help subvert American democracy. It would be unnatural not to blame these traitors for the impending destruction of democracy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/cyao05/i_wonder_why/ said:
Historians will have a word for Americans who voted with the Republican party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Republican." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
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The miracle in Georgia happened because of voter turnout. I've lived in the state for over 25 years and voter apathy, especially among would be Democrats, has always been severe. But, finally, largely due to the efforts of Stacey Abrams and her organizations, people finally began to realize that voting was important. I'm not just talking about young people. I'm talking about people in their 50s who had never voted in their lives, finally voting. The question is, will they continue to vote or was getting rid of Trump enough to finally motivate them? This is exactly why our Republican gov and congress here in Georgia have made efforts to make voting more difficult, then it. has been in the recent past.
 
southernhybrid said:
Swammerdami said:
The Miracle In Georgia gave us hope. The pro-democracy Party had been unable to win the Senate when suddenly, from out of the Old Confederacy, Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff — a black man and a Jew, no less! — won special run-off elections, supposedly giving the Ds a bare 50+1 to 50 majority. Of course hope filled our hearts.

American democracy is on the verge of complete collapse. Social media have placed propagandists in control of the political debate, and evil-doers like Putin, Murdoch and Koch have used this power to steer us toward an autocracy that resembles Hitler's 80 years ago. The Rs continue at their work of subverting democracy, so the 2021 Congress may be our last hope.

And we find that two D Senators, both probably slurping at the trough of Big Money, want to help subvert American democracy. It would be unnatural not to blame these traitors for the impending destruction of democracy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/cyao05/i_wonder_why/ said:
Historians will have a word for Americans who voted with the Republican party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Republican." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
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The miracle in Georgia happened because of voter turnout. I've lived in the state for over 25 years and voter apathy, especially among would be Democrats, has always been severe. But, finally, largely due to the efforts of Stacey Abrams and her organizations, people finally began to realize that voting was important. I'm not just talking about young people. I'm talking about people in their 50s who had never voted in their lives, finally voting. The question is, will they continue to vote or was getting rid of Trump enough to finally motivate them? This is exactly why our Republican gov and congress here in Georgia have made efforts to make voting more difficult, then it. has been in the recent past.
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And just to be clear, turnout also saw to Biden winning as well! Georgia was a miracle, Biden's victory was certainly not a given. Georgia was able to overcome voter apathy via Abrams... who proved it is turnout turnout turnout for election. Yes, suburban women matter, but so does the group of people that vote 90 to 10 for you!

And lets get something clear, Sinema is a conservative Democrat. She is out of Arizona! But she didn't stop the stimulus, she didn't stop the infrastructure bill. And she is making noise on the 2nd half of that bill, but again, conservative Democrat. Let's not pretend that $3+ trillion isn't negotiable! Her presence as a Democrat in the caucus is tremendous, as it means the US Senate is controlled by a bare minimum, by the Democrats. One seat would lead to an unbelievable obstruction effort (well, if you forgot about the Obama Admin and the GOP). The can approve judges! So lets get off the fucking pity party routine about Sinema.
 
Kyrsten Sinema Is Literally Teaching a Course on Fundraising
The senator is educating Arizona State University students on her forte: asking for money.

All students hope to learn from the top experts in their field. Graduate students at Arizona State University have an unusual opportunity this fall to do just that, where Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., is teaching a course on getting rich people to give you money.

The course, titled “Developing Grants and Fundraising,” is one of two classes Sinema is teaching this fall at Arizona State University’s School of Social Work. The syllabus, which was obtained by The Intercept, says students will “learn diverse fundraising strategies” for nonprofits as well as “how to cultivate donors,” including “large individual donors,” by leveraging resources like “opportunistic fundraising,” “finding supporters for major fundraising events” — and, well, “asking for money.”

The outline identifies “Key Course Concepts” such as “corporate giving,” “political strategy,” “influence,” and “power” as well as more socially conscious terms like “discrimination,” “oppression,” and “privilege.” One of the required books is “Fundraising for Social Change” — ironic in light of Sinema’s attempts to ensure things like corporate tax rates remain unchanged. A spokesperson for Sinema did not respond to a request for comment.
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Many Congresspeople spend much of the day dialing for dollars. Are members of Congress becoming telemarketers? - CBS News - "Nearly every day, they spend hours on the phone asking supporters and even total strangers for campaign donations -- hours spent away from the jobs they were elected to do."

There are some call-center rooms that Congresspeople go to, rooms a few blocks away from the Congress building and its office buildings. Each party has a separate room, with separate lists of donors to call. By contrast, AOC is part of a new wave of candidates that do their fundraising over the Internet, asking for lots of small donations rather than a few big ones, and she says about that that this gives her more time to do her work as a Rep, preparing for committee meetings and the like.

Both KS and AOC are fashion plates, but the most that KS has said about that was several years ago, when she called herself a "Prada socialist". AOC has talked much more, saying that she often rents her clothes or else shops at thrift shops. Like designer dress that she once bought secondhand at much less than its original price. She was also given some of her wardrobe by a retiring judge, IIRC. She does fashion shoots for fashion magazines along with interviews for them, and though she doesn't get to keep the clothes, she nevertheless enjoys doing so.
 
KS seemed much like AOC politically for much of her political career, up to a decade ago. She was involved in the Green Party and Code Pink activism. CODEPINK - Women for Peace

I think that if AOC was ever to teach a course at a university, it would be on activism and community organizing.

Kyrsten Sinema - Ballotpedia
  • 2019-present: U.S. senator from Arizona
  • 2013-2019: U.S. representative from Arizona's 9th Congressional District
  • 2012: Graduated from Arizona State University with a Ph.D.
  • 2011-2012: Arizona State Senate
  • 2006-present: Instructor, Center for Progressive Leadership
  • 2005-present: Attorney
  • 2005-2011: Arizona House of Representatives
  • 2004: Graduated from Arizona State University with a J.D.
  • 1999: Graduated from Arizona State University with a M.S.
  • 1995-2002: Social worker
  • 1995: Graduated from Brigham Young University with a B.A.
Her committees:

U.S. Senate

2021-2022

Sinema was assigned to the following committees:
- Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
- - Subcommittee on Government Operations and Border Management, Chair
- - Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Spending Oversight
- Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
- - Financial Institutions and Consumer Protection
- - National Security and International Trade and Finance
- - Securities, Insurance, and Investment
- Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
- Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
- - Aviation Safety, Operations, and Innovation, Chair
- - Communications, Media, and Broadband
- - Space and Science
- - Tourism, Trade, and Export Promotion

2019-2020

Sinema was assigned to the following committees:
- Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
- Committee on Aging (Special)
- Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
- Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
- Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

U.S. House

2017-2018

At the beginning of the 115th Congress, Sinema was assigned to the following committees:
- Committee on Financial Services

2015-2016

Sinema served on the following committees:
- Financial Services Committee
- - Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and Consumer Credit
- - Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
- - Task Force to Investigate Terrorism Financing

2013-2014

Sinema served on the following committees:
- Financial Services Committee
- - Subcommittee on Insurance, Housing and Community Opportunity
- - Subcommittee on Investigation and Oversight

State Senate

2011-2012

In the 2011-2012 legislative session, Sinema served on these committees:
- Appropriations Committee, Arizona Senate
- - Subcommittee on Health and Welfare
- Government Reform Committee, Arizona Senate
- Judiciary Committee, Arizona Senate
- Rules Committee, Arizona Senate
- Audit Committee, Arizona State Legislature
 
Kyrsten Sinema Wants to Cut $100 Billion in Proposed Climate Funds, Sources Say - The New York Times

Senator Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, who began her political career with the Green Party and who has voiced alarm over the warming planet, wants to cut at least $100 billion from climate programs in major legislation pending on Capitol Hill, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Sinema is one of two centrist Democrats in the Senate whose votes are crucial to passing two bills that together would comprise President Biden’s legislative agenda: a $1 trillion infrastructure bill and a separate $3.5 trillion budget bill.

Last month, Ms. Sinema told The Arizona Republic, “We know that a changing climate costs Arizonans. And right now, we have the opportunity to pass smart policies to address it — looking forward to that.” In her 2018 run for the Senate, Ms. Sinema was endorsed by the League of Conservation Voters. And she has expressed an interest in using the spending bill to enact a tax or fee on carbon dioxide pollution, which experts say could be among the most effective ways to mitigate global warming.

But Ms. Sinema’s demand to cut spending on climate provisions in the budget bill could force Democrats to cut or shrink programs designed to help poor communities adapt to climate change as well as to help companies adjust as the economy transitions away from fossil fuels to clean energy.
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Love her.
 
southernhybrid said:
... lets get something clear, Sinema is a conservative Democrat. She is out of Arizona! But she didn't stop the stimulus, she didn't stop the infrastructure bill. And she is making noise on the 2nd half of that bill, but again, conservative Democrat.
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A very conservative Democrat. I would say a conservative extremist Democrat. If I was a Republican strategist trying to place a covert operative inside the Democrats' political machine to sabotage its agenda and cause it to lurch to the right, it would look a lot like Kristen.
 
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