What Theist set that requirment? To my knowledge, Theism claims god comes before any creation, as such a universe existing is not required for a God to exist.
The definition of theism.
theism
[ˈTHēˌizəm]
NOUN
- belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.
I find it interesting,
@Drew2008, that you have not spoken one bit about the things I bring which make your expectations of what 'one god as a creator of the universe' says specifically... Well, I contravention of your beliefs:
That if someone as fucked up as I am is perfectly capable of being exactly an omnipotent, omniscient creator god of a universe, Heaven, goodness, even actually using their power to intervene in ways that YOU want... those are all wildly unlikely.
That the belief in such can arise completely separate from the actual reality.
That while there are ways to prove the existence of simulation creators within that simulation IFF they intervene, you have not actually done any of that.
That if simulation creating gods do not intervene, that universe does not actually have a unique identity: that it is created by all and no circumstances that generate that outcome, regardless of platform or implementation, and that our universe is indistinguishable from such a one as best we can tell.
That mythologies describing creator gods do not actually have any leverage on their existence or behavior.
That you have provided zero evidence that there are necessarily greater than zero gods.
I gave you a really nice, low, fixed goalpost to knock it over: show me a wave that is predicted to originate as a result of non-causal phenomena, and then pinpoint the origin of such a wave through observing it.
I expect the easiest form to look for would be gravitational waves as a result of new mass just... being somewhere
Harder forms of waves to observe would be if there was an effect, as previously noted, on the resolution pathways of matter.
The hardest would be to get an actual Avatar on a slab and then observe that the resolution pathways of the particles within it's brain are non-causitive or disobey the rule of large numbers.
Even if you did that, though, actually fingered a god, my own experience and observations would indicate it would be a very bad idea, and would not end well for you.
Because my own direct observations would indicate that there is no good end for a revealed god.