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LOL...was that analysis produced by Crayola and the Letter 'S'?
I found the article I mentioned. My apologies, I got almost all the details wrong in my description. My memory thinker thingy isn't as good as it used to be in my younger years, and it wasn't very good then.Is this personal experience, or is it just some more bullshit? Second hand hearsay, or can you deliver evidence from a source accepted by me?I was on a local FB group and people were complaining about rampant crime. I found an article from the local paper that showed crime being down 85% since the seventies.Well, where I live 2, nearby Jr. High school boys were kidnapped, raped, and one killed before the perp was caught. And the gang/drug violence is rampant; and woman look under their cars to look for bad guys and rapists....Oh wait, that was soooooo 1970's when I was a kid myself (with per capita murder rates far far higher than today)...never mind.
Tom
Some sober observers attribute the 1990's decline in crime to Roe v Wade (in 1973) and wide availability of contraceptives from about that same date. Unwanted boys often grow up to become criminals.Neat. There's the effect of the liberal soft-on-crime era of the 60's and 70's. Which led to the tough-on-crime period of the early 90's. (See Joe Biden) After 2010 there's the Ferguson bump followed by the Floyd surge post May 2020.
Let's track it back another 16-17 years. What happened 16-17 years ago?Some sober observers attribute the 1990's decline in crime to Roe v Wade (in 1973) and wide availability of contraceptives from about that same date. Unwanted boys often grow up to become criminals.Neat. There's the effect of the liberal soft-on-crime era of the 60's and 70's. Which led to the tough-on-crime period of the early 90's. (See Joe Biden) After 2010 there's the Ferguson bump followed by the Floyd surge post May 2020.
What's causing the recent uptick, if that's what it is? The rise of Stupidism as America's dominant political ideology?
Let's track it back another 16-17 years. What happened 16-17 years ago?Some sober observers attribute the 1990's decline in crime to Roe v Wade (in 1973) and wide availability of contraceptives from about that same date. Unwanted boys often grow up to become criminals.Neat. There's the effect of the liberal soft-on-crime era of the 60's and 70's. Which led to the tough-on-crime period of the early 90's. (See Joe Biden) After 2010 there's the Ferguson bump followed by the Floyd surge post May 2020.
What's causing the recent uptick, if that's what it is? The rise of Stupidism as America's dominant political ideology?
The elimination of leaded gasoline was a big contributor to the downward swing starting i the early 80s.
Some sober observers attribute the 1990's decline in crime to Roe v Wade (in 1973) and wide availability of contraceptives from about that same date. Unwanted boys often grow up to become criminals.Neat. There's the effect of the liberal soft-on-crime era of the 60's and 70's. Which led to the tough-on-crime period of the early 90's. (See Joe Biden) After 2010 there's the Ferguson bump followed by the Floyd surge post May 2020.
What's causing the recent uptick, if that's what it is? The rise of Stupidism as America's dominant political ideology?
Still, we have an uptick now. Assuming it is not adjacent to an immediate, sudden change in conditions that have just made more people decide to get stabbed with it, something changed to make more people grow up awful, and get access just now.The elimination of leaded gasoline was a big contributor to the downward swing starting i the early 80s.
I started to bring this up.
There are so many variables involved. Reducing lead in urban environments was predicted to reduce violent crime, because of the damage it does to developing brains. It makes people stupider and more violence prone. The gubbamint cracked down on our freedoms to freely disperse lead, like in paint and gas additives.
Good thing the gubbamint took away that freedom, IMHO.
Tom
Still, we have an uptick now. Assuming it is not adjacent to an immediate, sudden change in conditions that have just made more people decide to get stabbed with it, something changed to make more people grow up awful, and get access just now.The elimination of leaded gasoline was a big contributor to the downward swing starting i the early 80s.
I started to bring this up.
There are so many variables involved. Reducing lead in urban environments was predicted to reduce violent crime, because of the damage it does to developing brains. It makes people stupider and more violence prone. The gubbamint cracked down on our freedoms to freely disperse lead, like in paint and gas additives.
Good thing the gubbamint took away that freedom, IMHO.
Tom
Some sober observers attribute the 1990's decline in crime to Roe v Wade (in 1973) and wide availability of contraceptives from about that same date. Unwanted boys often grow up to become criminals.Neat. There's the effect of the liberal soft-on-crime era of the 60's and 70's. Which led to the tough-on-crime period of the early 90's. (See Joe Biden) After 2010 there's the Ferguson bump followed by the Floyd surge post May 2020.
What's causing the recent uptick, if that's what it is? The rise of Stupidism as America's dominant political ideology?
Like how victimized and entitled many right-wingers feel? Seems to me that many of them project onto others these features of themselves.I think it's the current culture of victimhood and entitlement.
Evidence: {}BLM is a huge contributor to that.
Like how victimized and entitled many right-wingers feel?
Like how victimized and entitled many right-wingers feel?
You think the high excess homicide rate is due to right-wingers? The ones in Chicago who put a noose on Smolett’s neck?
FTFYLike how victimized and entitled many right-wingers feel?
You think the high excess homicide rate is due to right-wingers? The ones in Chicago who put a noose on Smolett’s neck?
The high homicide rate is due to drug prohibition, coupled with the easy availability of firearms due to right wing misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. Why do you think that's left wing?
Like how victimized and entitled many right-wingers feel?
You think the high excess homicide rate is due to right-wingers? The ones in Chicago who put a noose on Smolett’s neck?
The high homicide rate is due to drugs. Why do you think that's left wing?
But what accounts for a massive and seemingly sudden increase?Some sober observers attribute the 1990's decline in crime to Roe v Wade (in 1973) and wide availability of contraceptives from about that same date. Unwanted boys often grow up to become criminals.Neat. There's the effect of the liberal soft-on-crime era of the 60's and 70's. Which led to the tough-on-crime period of the early 90's. (See Joe Biden) After 2010 there's the Ferguson bump followed by the Floyd surge post May 2020.
What's causing the recent uptick, if that's what it is? The rise of Stupidism as America's dominant political ideology?
It's hard to sort out the effects of Roe v Wade and getting rid of lead paint. It's pretty clear that some combination of these adds up to halving the crime rate.
But that's been an issue for forever. Something changed: either a bunch of people for some reason decided to stop not murdering people, a loss of fear (as if that really meant anything to murderers), or a new generation of psychopathic children growing up and gaining access to the means to murder.FTFYLike how victimized and entitled many right-wingers feel?
You think the high excess homicide rate is due to right-wingers? The ones in Chicago who put a noose on Smolett’s neck?
The high homicide rate is due to drug prohibition, coupled with the easy availability of firearms due to right wing misinterpretation of the Second Amendment. Why do you think that's left wing?
But what accounts for a massive and seemingly sudden increase?
Yeah, like... If trends carry, it indicates something massive happened, either tantamount to water poisoning or abortion bans.But what accounts for a massive and seemingly sudden increase?
The same people who say the change in laws account for the increase are the same people who scream from mountaintops that criminals don't care about the law.