If you could put all the jealousy and envy I have for you in a bottle and attach two wires to it, that's humanity's energy problems fixed. Like I said, the problem isn't Rogan per se. The problem is his fans and the people he brings on. And, like I also said, that argument is a little too nuanced for your average Rogancunt.
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He's part of why people don't trust the media!
Pointing out their errors is fighting back.
Also, and this is the nuance Rogan fans have trouble realising, vapid and ridiculous != harmless
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So Joe Rogan doesn't do any show prep. He just brings out any rando to make them look foolish while advocating for the microchips in vaccines point of view and that Alex Jones is more right than wrong.
He sounds like a moron to me.
He sounds like a moron to me.
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two quick things:
1. i actually referenced jon stewart and TDS in the same context just a few posts above this one i'm quoting, so i'm totally on board with that.
2. i watched every episode of TDS during those years and i think you might be misremembering slightly, as i don't recall him really doing that... plus, he was lambasted at length at the time for not doing it.
no objections here - i was just asking to establish parameters. so many people around here (pointedly not looking at jimmy higgins) will make sweeping declarations of something being "wrong" but then when asked about what or why or how, their only response is "because i said so" and their proposition to fix it is "stop being wrong" and the conversation is a tedious dead end.
i was just asking to ensure i wasn't walking into another of those.
works for me, no argument about that.
Disagree. You referenced Trevor Noah, not Jon Stewart. Just so we're clear, both are admirable hosts, in my opinion. However one focuses on accountability and another focuses on context. Neither make the one lesser. They are still very different.
That's because he didn't say it on his show. He said it on a debate with Chris Wallace on FOX News. Youtube has the archives. "I'm a comedian - first and foremost" is a direct quote.
By whom? And just we are clear, I also remember people lambasting Jon Stewart at the time. They were the cheerleaders of faux outrage. That is slightly different than, "If people believe this horseshit and choose to deny reality, things may get violent real quick".
And if you think I am wrong, look at Trausti's posting activity on Jan 4,5,6,7,8 in 2020.
I'm just asking questions.
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At the risk of defending him for being a moron...
Producing a show everyday is tough. You need hours of content, and there's a lot of services trying to get their content on your show...especially if you're doing well.
After the morning show I was producing won a major award, we were inundated with outfits trying to get their guests booked. I had to be very, very selective regarding who actually got on the show. Mostly because we were a "wacky morning radio show" that did fun stuff rather than in-depth topics with authors, and most of the time I never returned the voicemail or offered a polite "thanks but no thanks." Rogan doesn't seem to have that filter. He also doesn't seem to have an idea that maybe his guests are up to no good.
We booked a psychic on our show a few times. She was "America's Number One Radio Psychic" and I got to see behind the curtain. Of course she wasn't psychic. She was a nice old lady with a great voice and a kind demeanor, and I think she actually believed in her "psychic" abilities. Her agent and phone screener (who was also her son) was a real piece of work. He sifted through the calls like someone panning for gold, and when he got something he thought he could work with, coached them through what they should say when they finally got on line with the "psychic." He set them up so his mother could swing at the softballs they threw at her, and (like any good scam) they were amazed at how "accurate" she was.
I get the distinct impression that Joe doesn't see behind the curtain. He gets these people on his show, and misses the fact that they're taking advantage of him and his platform to push their own bullshit. Because it works, it gets him more subscribers/reach, and rather than doing actual show prep, he says "wow, that's amazing" and lets them do what they do.
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It sounds like Rogan just isn't very bright. But he's making lots of bread. Who's he fleecing? Sounds religious.
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heh, some significant misunderstandings and miscommunications here.
i'm going to assume you've been skim reading most of the posts here and just missed or misread a couple things, because otherwise i've developed dyslexia and what i'm typing is pure incomprehensible gibberish in which case nothing i type matters.
(this is an issue of me responding to various points in a block of your text without breaking out which part i was directing towards, my fault)
you said: "Stewart regularly challenged his guests and called out their bullshit."
my reply was a contention to that claim... i watched all of TDS in that era, and he absolutely did not do that, to my memory.
i remember specifically people being pissed off that he didn't just scream in donald rumsfeld's face for 20 minutes, or only very gently questioned some aspects of grover norquist's entire bullshit persona.
i'm going to assume you've been skim reading most of the posts here and just missed or misread a couple things, because otherwise i've developed dyslexia and what i'm typing is pure incomprehensible gibberish in which case nothing i type matters.
re-read the 2nd half of post #11
no, the "that" isn't him deflecting his responsibility as a journalist, the "that" which he didn't do was push back on his guests.
(this is an issue of me responding to various points in a block of your text without breaking out which part i was directing towards, my fault)
you said: "Stewart regularly challenged his guests and called out their bullshit."
my reply was a contention to that claim... i watched all of TDS in that era, and he absolutely did not do that, to my memory.
oh man i would have to do some google dumpster diving to dig this up, but at the time TDS was current and at its height, i recall many articles and threads on this forum complaining that stewart was always nice to his guests and lobbed softballs or at best very mildly comedic jabs.
i remember specifically people being pissed off that he didn't just scream in donald rumsfeld's face for 20 minutes, or only very gently questioned some aspects of grover norquist's entire bullshit persona.
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I'm starting to wonder if 'Intellectual Heavyweight' is a veiled way of saying 'he has rocks in his head'
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I do enjoy the Bee. They're often quite funny. The Onion, unfortunately, has become indistinguishable from fact in many cases, it was more prophetic than satirical. At least I can still tell that the Bee is not for real.
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That's a very strange comparison. Are you claiming that the US government is, in its majority, racist? That's an entirely different claim than what was made.
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No, I am not.
My claim is right there in my post; I am not sure how you managed to get to here from there, but I suspect it was an attempt to simplify ny position.
Sadly, my position is quite nuanced. I already made it as simple as possible, so you will need to try to understand it as it stands.
Fuck that, I can make your argument simple without nuance. And by quoting you.
I think, yes Bilby you are right. I don't like the fact that nowadays in this SJW, Politically correct, intellectual dark web, safe zone-esque zone that we are apparently living in, nuance is not allowed unless it's okay'd by Stephen Crowder. They are cunts. Calling them cunts doesn't make them victims - they are cunts. Fuck them. They are cunts. It's also pretty fucking obvious as to why they are cunts.
Back before Delta. Back then if you were vaccinated and your immune system was ok you weren't going to spread the virus.
You keep using things that were correct when written.
Am I lying when I say I've been to Yugoslavia? After all, there's no such country!
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Not at all. It is the retort of a snob that disdains the plebs are entertained by such low brow activities such as bowling, NASCAR, Joe Rogan etc. oh and the oiks drink domestic beer, yuk.
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Or:
Guy who gets high and talks about MMA and aliens, is influencing people on their medical decisions.
Joe Rogan isn't the problem. The anti-vaxxers he had spreading and more importantly, normalizing, lies were the problem.