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Pretty simple. Words to live by?

Pride: Excessive self-esteem, an inflated sense of one's own abilities, or a belief that one is the source of their own greatness. It's often considered the root of all other sins, leading to the willingness to step away from God.

Greed (Avarice or Covetousness): An excessive desire for material wealth or possessions. It's an inordinate love of earthly possessions.

Lust: An excessive desire for sexual gratification, viewing others as mere sex objects rather than as individuals made in the image of God.

Envy: Jealousy or resentment towards others' success, possessions, or happiness. It can lead to harmful actions and even serious crimes.

Gluttony: Overindulgence or overconsumption of food, drink, or other material pleasures, often to the point of excess. It's about self-indulgent excess more generally, including drunkenness.

Wrath (Anger): Intense and uncontrolled anger, hatred, or rage, often accompanied by a desire for revenge. While anger itself is a natural emotion, wrath refers to the uncontrolled and destructive expression of it.

Sloth (Acedia): Laziness, avoidance of work or duty, or indifference to spiritual matters and spiritual growth. It's not just about physical laziness, but also a lack of interest in spiritual tasks and a refusal to experience joy from God.
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Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia

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The seven deadly sins (also known as the capital vices or cardinal sins) function as a grouping of major vices within the teachings of Christianity.[1] In the standard list, the seven deadly sins according to the Catholic Church are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.

In Catholicism, the classification of deadly sins into a group of seven originated with Tertullian and continued with Evagrius Ponticus.[2] The concepts were partly based on Greco-Roman and Biblical antecedents. Later, the concept of seven deadly sins evolved further, as shown by historical context based on the Latin language of the Roman Catholic Church, though with significant influence from the Greek language and associated religious traditions. Knowledge of this concept is evident in various treatises; in paintings and sculpture (for example, architectural decorations on churches in some Catholic parishes); and in some older textbooks.[1] Further knowledge has been derived from patterns of confession.

During later centuries and in modern times, the idea of sins (especially seven in number) has influenced or inspired various streams of religious and philosophical thought, fine art painting, and modern popular media such as literature, film, and television.

With reference to the seven deadly sins, "evil thoughts" can be categorized as follows:[3]

physical (thoughts produced by the nutritive, sexual, and acquisitive appetites)
emotional (thoughts produced by depressive, irascible, or dismissive moods)
mental (thoughts produced by jealous, boastful, or hubristic states of mind)

The fourth-century monk Evagrius Ponticus reduced the[which?] logismoi (or forms of temptation) from nine to eight in number, as follows:[4][5]

Γαστριμαργία (gastrimargia) gluttony
Πορνεία (porneia) prostitution, fornication
Φιλαργυρία (philargyria) greed
Λύπη (lypē) sadness, rendered in the Philokalia as envy, sadness at another's good fortune
Ὀργή (orgē) wrath
Ἀκηδία (akēdia) acedia (apathy, neglect, or indifference), rendered in the Philokalia as dejection
Κενοδοξία (kenodoxia) boasting
Ὑπερηφανία (hyperēphania) pride, sometimes rendered as self-overestimation, arrogance, or grandiosity[6]

Evagrius's list was translated into the Latin of Western Christianity in many writings of John Cassian,[7][8] one of Evagrius’s students; the list thus become part of the Western tradition's spiritual pietas or Catholic devotions as follows:[3]

Gula (gluttony)
Luxuria/Fornicatio (lust, fornication)
Avaritia (greed)
Tristitia (sorrow, despair, despondency)
Ira (wrath)
Acedia (sloth)
Vanagloria (vanity, vainglory)
Superbia (pride)
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steve_bank said:
Pretty simple. Words to live by?

Pride: Excessive self-esteem, an inflated sense of one's own abilities, or a belief that one is the source of their own greatness. It's often considered the root of all other sins, leading to the willingness to step away from God.

Greed (Avarice or Covetousness): An excessive desire for material wealth or possessions. It's an inordinate love of earthly possessions.

Lust: An excessive desire for sexual gratification, viewing others as mere sex objects rather than as individuals made in the image of God.

Envy: Jealousy or resentment towards others' success, possessions, or happiness. It can lead to harmful actions and even serious crimes.

Gluttony: Overindulgence or overconsumption of food, drink, or other material pleasures, often to the point of excess. It's about self-indulgent excess more generally, including drunkenness.

Wrath (Anger): Intense and uncontrolled anger, hatred, or rage, often accompanied by a desire for revenge. While anger itself is a natural emotion, wrath refers to the uncontrolled and destructive expression of it.

Sloth (Acedia): Laziness, avoidance of work or duty, or indifference to spiritual matters and spiritual growth. It's not just about physical laziness, but also a lack of interest in spiritual tasks and a refusal to experience joy from God.
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en.wikipedia.org

Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The seven deadly sins (also known as the capital vices or cardinal sins) function as a grouping of major vices within the teachings of Christianity.[1] In the standard list, the seven deadly sins according to the Catholic Church are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.

In Catholicism, the classification of deadly sins into a group of seven originated with Tertullian and continued with Evagrius Ponticus.[2] The concepts were partly based on Greco-Roman and Biblical antecedents. Later, the concept of seven deadly sins evolved further, as shown by historical context based on the Latin language of the Roman Catholic Church, though with significant influence from the Greek language and associated religious traditions. Knowledge of this concept is evident in various treatises; in paintings and sculpture (for example, architectural decorations on churches in some Catholic parishes); and in some older textbooks.[1] Further knowledge has been derived from patterns of confession.

During later centuries and in modern times, the idea of sins (especially seven in number) has influenced or inspired various streams of religious and philosophical thought, fine art painting, and modern popular media such as literature, film, and television.

With reference to the seven deadly sins, "evil thoughts" can be categorized as follows:[3]

physical (thoughts produced by the nutritive, sexual, and acquisitive appetites)
emotional (thoughts produced by depressive, irascible, or dismissive moods)
mental (thoughts produced by jealous, boastful, or hubristic states of mind)

The fourth-century monk Evagrius Ponticus reduced the[which?] logismoi (or forms of temptation) from nine to eight in number, as follows:[4][5]

Γαστριμαργία (gastrimargia) gluttony
Πορνεία (porneia) prostitution, fornication
Φιλαργυρία (philargyria) greed
Λύπη (lypē) sadness, rendered in the Philokalia as envy, sadness at another's good fortune
Ὀργή (orgē) wrath
Ἀκηδία (akēdia) acedia (apathy, neglect, or indifference), rendered in the Philokalia as dejection
Κενοδοξία (kenodoxia) boasting
Ὑπερηφανία (hyperēphania) pride, sometimes rendered as self-overestimation, arrogance, or grandiosity[6]

Evagrius's list was translated into the Latin of Western Christianity in many writings of John Cassian,[7][8] one of Evagrius’s students; the list thus become part of the Western tradition's spiritual pietas or Catholic devotions as follows:[3]

Gula (gluttony)
Luxuria/Fornicatio (lust, fornication)
Avaritia (greed)
Tristitia (sorrow, despair, despondency)
Ira (wrath)
Acedia (sloth)
Vanagloria (vanity, vainglory)
Superbia (pride)
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Eating Hot Dogs without a bun, with a fork and knife. UNFORGIVABLE!!!

@laughing dog, you are clearly going to hell!
 
Wearing socks with sandals
Not liking the Lonesome Dove series (it still lingers!)
Smoking cigarettes
Not understanding why weed is so popular
Not seeing something sexy about calves
Not giving a tinker's damn about Radiohead*
Actually liking Jethro Tull
Actually liking M. Night Shyamalan
Thinking Chef Ramsay is actually not a god
Thinking tattoos are god-awful ugly

* It's actually tinker's dam but people might think I spelled damn wrong
 
* playing matador with self-driving cars

* clicking on links as instructed by email notices about “the package”

* Troothin’ about Dear Leader

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Not seeing something sexy about calves
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Not liking the Lonesome Dove series (Never seen it.)
Not seeing something sexy about calves
Not giving a tinker's damn about Radiohead*
Actually liking Jethro Tull
Actually liking M. Night Shyamalan
Thinking Chef Ramsay is actually not a god
Yep, I'm a sinner. And not ashamed to say so.
 
Tigers! said:
Loren Pechtel said:
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Plaintext passwords.
Trusting user input.
Not parameterizing your SQL.

Anyone else got 4 more modern sins?
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Misgendering
Holding a door for a woman
Women are women and men are men
Desiring a tax cut
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*Deliberate* misgendering, maybe. Blatant disregard for reasonable requests is dumb and always has been. Go straight to hell.

Holding a door open for women but not anyone else is pretty shameless and kinda cringe, but whatever. People don't get sent to hell for that, but even in Heaven, it's gonna be cringe.

Insisting that YOUR definition of "woman" and "man" is more correct than that of people who have asked "is my definition of woman and man actually correct" and spent years actually testing that philosophically and scientifically? Do you really want to spend eternity with people who would argue that eternally with God himself? No. Straight to hell with them.

Desiring a tax cut at the expense of everyone else? Seriously? Give unto Caesar. Jesus himself talked about that one. Straight to hell.

*I don't believe in hell, nor do I believe that such people are necessarily unreachable; but I expect like The Good Place, they would be in "the good place" rather than the good place for quite some time. Which is to say they would be in the bad place.
 
I can't get my head around 'Deadly' sins (or truthfuly, even sins), But if I was wrighting 'commandments', they would be these:


A) Cause no harm. (borrowed from the medical profesion)
B) Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Christianity calls this 'The Golden Rule' as if they invented it. But this was part of every culture and religion that humans ever created. (except Is-lame)
C) Do not kill. Do not kill humans.
Self preservation may override this, but killing is still a bad idea.
When killing animals for food, respect their sacrifice. Killing for sport is a bad idea.
D) People are not property.
Do not try to own others, in any sense.
You belong to yourself, do not give yourself away.
E) Do not steal.
You would not want to loose your stuff. (see B) Stealing harms others.
F) Do not lie. Avoid those who lie.
You would want to know the truth. To make better decisions. (see B)
G) Do not rape.
Do not force yourself on others. Your pleasures are not more important than other people's.
This applies to more than just sex. Do not force your religion on others. Do not force politics on others.
H) Do not shit wherever you please.
You don't want to slog through other people's shit.
(it's a metaphor.) Leave the world better than you found it.
I) Guard your privacy. Respect the privacy of others.
Beware of others who might use info against you. Or might unduly profit off you.
 
unapologetic said:
I can't get my head around 'Deadly' sins (or truthfuly, even sins), But if I was wrighting 'commandments', they would be these:


A) Cause no harm. (borrowed from the medical profesion)
B) Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Christianity calls this 'The Golden Rule' as if they invented it. But this was part of every culture and religion that humans ever created. (except Is-lame)
C) Do not kill. Do not kill humans.
Self preservation may override this, but killing is still a bad idea.
When killing animals for food, respect their sacrifice. Killing for sport is a bad idea.
D) People are not property.
Do not try to own others, in any sense.
You belong to yourself, do not give yourself away.
E) Do not steal.
You would not want to loose your stuff. (see B) Stealing harms others.
F) Do not lie. Avoid those who lie.
You would want to know the truth. To make better decisions. (see B)
G) Do not rape.
Do not force yourself on others. Your pleasures are not more important than other people's.
This applies to more than just sex. Do not force your religion on others. Do not force politics on others.
H) Do not shit wherever you please.
You don't want to slog through other people's shit.
(it's a metaphor.) Leave the world better than you found it.
I) Guard your privacy. Respect the privacy of others.
Beware of others who might use info against you. Or might unduly profit off you.
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Not bad, but I can think of scenarios where I would not abide by C, E and F.
 
Elixir said:
* playing matador with self-driving cars

* clicking on links as instructed by email notices about “the package”

* Troothin’ about Dear Leader

WAB said:
Not seeing something sexy about calves
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I bet you'd change your mind if she was in fishnet stockings and high heels.
 
unapologetic said:
I can't get my head around 'Deadly' sins
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Yeah, "deadly" means "great, excellent, wise, sensible and desirable" (in Aboriginal Australian Vernacular English).

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There are ads on our buses that say "Quitting the smokes when pregnant is a Deadly Choice".

This puts the Seven Deadly Sins in a whole new light...
 
Loren Pechtel said:
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Plaintext passwords.
Trusting user input.
Not parameterizing your SQL.

Anyone else got 4 more modern sins?
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Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin. - John von Neumann.

Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian Kernighan

Premature optimization is the root of all evil. - Tony Hoare

The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense. - Edsger Dijkstra
 
bilby said:
unapologetic said:
B) Treat others the way you want to be treated.
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Better to treat others the way they want to be treated. Not everyone wants the things you want. And asking is FAR better than assuming.
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You're saying it *doesn't* mean that I should beat people on the backside with a dead pelican while they recite Proust blindfolded? 😮 Yeeesh, I have some apologizing to do...
 
I like how in the Bible, after all the lust, adultery, idolatry, murder, pillage, rape, slavemongering, and jerking off on the ground, there is one unforgivable sin: blasphemy against Casper, excuse me, the Holy Ghost. This implies that two thirds of the Trinity has at least some sense of humor but the ghost, none. He must have grown up apart from the other two and never learned give & take.
 
I would say there's only one sin: looking at your behavior that is incompatible with the goals of others, saying it is fine for you to do, and not fine for others to do the same on your goals; to live harmlessly, and to accept as much interference with you as you would produce in the world.

That's what it all comes down to for me. A stupid logo first read as an FCC rule on the back of a fucking television.

The golden rule comes out of that: treat others as you demand others treat you; to not attempt to own others as you would refuse ownership over yourself; to not operate against the consent of others; to have mercy on others.

I don't claim to be the writer of that one, it just struck me as a question like "why do people demand this of technology," Sticking as a question in the back of my head, and being applied in wider and wider contexts.

To me, if pretty much everything about thought and behavior is about communicating in some fashion, it makes sense that it would come down to a rule discovered that keeps communication possible: produce no interference; accept as much interference as you still demand to produce. It's a little modified, sure, because humans don't and won't accept "all" interference (nor should they), despite the old FCC regulation.

This is why we end up needing a consensus process, for determining how much harmful interference we are expected to accept, and why we need forums for discussing what the nature of this harmful interference is. I would personally attribute it to "goal interference", interference with the substantive goals of others; and to assign goals to others contrary to their own goals is to interfere with their goals.

Looking at that and rebelling against the idea of interpersonal compatibility, that's what I think, if anything, damns people.

Deciding the immigrant is incompatible?

Deciding the homosexual is incompatible?

Deciding the trans person is incompatible?

Deciding the prostitute is incompatible?

These are the things that damn you.

You can actually show how various substantive actions are incompatible with general goal-seeking for diverse people. Those are the things we must free ourselves to stop, specifically for their degree of incompatibility.

I would say if we aren't allowed to do much beyond yell at someone for not putting a cart back, we have far less leverage to do far less for, say, kissing in public.

There's exactly one sin, and it's as deadly for everyone, and it's deciding that you're the only person that "matters" in a conflict.
 
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