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thebeave said:
Oooh... an English Cream Golden Retriever. High-bred at that. Well, la de dah. Do you eat tea and krumpets together and play polo? ;)
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I resisted for literally decades. I have known the breeders late sister for decades. Bought my horse from her and her husband. The breeder imports breeding stock, mostly from Serbia. Pages of genetic workups come with the pups’ parents. By knowing what recessive genes are carried by the parent dogs, reinforcing them can be avoided. The breeder has been doing this for so long, her dogs are everywhere and they’re all great, at least the couple dozen or so puppies and a half dozen adults I’ve gotten to meet.
 
Spacetime Inhabitant said:
Derec said:
Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
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Barack Obama is half white and half black. He is called black because that is more noticeable feature. Of course he also identifies as black, but this is a product of USA's (and admittedly rest of world too) way of determining people's "race". On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
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In a really logical world nobody would be fussed about skin colour.

In the countries where this has been the worst there was a whole language round quantifying the admixture of blood, and as little as 3% of black ancestry made you black, willy nilly.

Ask Meghan Markle.
 
spikepipsqueak said:
Spacetime Inhabitant said:
Derec said:
Would that also make, say, Barack Obama white?
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Barack Obama is half white and half black. He is called black because that is more noticeable feature. Of course he also identifies as black, but this is a product of USA's (and admittedly rest of world too) way of determining people's "race". On a more logical planet he would be recognized as being both black and white.
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In a really logical world nobody would be fussed about skin colour.

In the countries where this has been the worst there was a whole language round quantifying the admixture of blood, and as little as 3% of black ancestry made you black, willy nilly.

Ask Meghan Markle.
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That is true. Also, in a more logical world whilst skin colour would not be a big issue, there would also be recognition that "white" is a poor nomenclature for a large group of people who are not white at all. Only albinos can truly be described as white.
There is one race - human.
 
The father who gave his son and school shooter, Colt Gray, guns that were used to kill four people has received 15 years in prison. Colin Gray was sentenced on Thursday, making him one of the few American parents who have also suffered criminal sentences for the actions of their children. Colin was found guilty of second-degree murder for the deaths of Mason Schermerhorn and Christian Angulo, both 14. He received involuntary manslaughter for the deaths of the two teachers, Richard Aspinwall, 39, and Cristina Irimie, 53.
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Daily Mail

That's a pretty stiff sentence. Should he have got longer or shorter?
 
apnews.com

3 killed in Idaho In-N-Out shooting included a man known for helping others get sober

The three people killed when a gunman opened fire at an In-N-Out Burger in Idaho have been identified as two out-of-state residents and a man from the area known for helping others get sober.
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The three people killed when a gunman opened fire at an In-N-Out Burger in Idaho included a worker at the restaurant chain and a man from the area known for helping others get sober.

Authorities released the names Tuesday of the people who died when the 24-year-old gunman opened fire at the Twin Falls restaurant. Police have said they are confident he acted alone but were still trying to determine a motive.

Police identified those killed as Ashley Garibay, 23, from Stockton, California; Dale Schultz, 66, of Salt Lake City; and Christopher Claunch, 59, of Hagerman, Idaho, about 28 miles (45 kilometers) northwest of Twin Falls.

Hundreds of community members, many holding candles or roses, gathered at a park in Twin Falls Tuesday night for a vigil to honor the victims. Some wrote notes to those who had been killed on large blue hearts arranged on a trio of crosses while others stood arm-in-arm and prayed.
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Some background on the shooter is still not out but the shooter complained about crime, immigrants, and thought the charges against Trump for fraud were unfair. He also supported universal gun rights.
 
TSwizzle said:
The father who gave his son and school shooter, Colt Gray, guns that were used to kill four people has received 15 years in prison. Colin Gray was sentenced on Thursday, making him one of the few American parents who have also suffered criminal sentences for the actions of their children. Colin was found guilty of second-degree murder for the deaths of Mason Schermerhorn and Christian Angulo, both 14. He received involuntary manslaughter for the deaths of the two teachers, Richard Aspinwall, 39, and Cristina Irimie, 53.
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Daily Mail

That's a pretty stiff sentence. Should he have got longer or shorter?
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Not enough information.
Did Dad get the guns and tell his 14 yo son to "go show those damn commies what you're made of"? Or did he buy them and tell his son "Absolutely don't take it out of the house without me"
 
TSwizzle said:
The father who gave his son and school shooter, Colt Gray, guns that were used to kill four people has received 15 years in prison. Colin Gray was sentenced on Thursday, making him one of the few American parents who have also suffered criminal sentences for the actions of their children. Colin was found guilty of second-degree murder for the deaths of Mason Schermerhorn and Christian Angulo, both 14. He received involuntary manslaughter for the deaths of the two teachers, Richard Aspinwall, 39, and Cristina Irimie, 53.
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Daily Mail

That's a pretty stiff sentence. Should he have got longer or shorter?
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The prosecution probably didn't want to take the risk of aiming higher. His conduct was abominable.
 
Haven't posted one in a while, Erie, PA had a bad one. Guy killed his family, like everyone it seems.
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Police say on Oct. 9, a gunman fatally shot eight people, most of them relatives, including two young children and a pregnant woman. Authorities say the suspected shooter took his own life before police arrived. The victims included the suspect's wife, children and grandchildren, according to officials.

Erie County Coroner Lyell Cook on Oct. 12 identified the adult victims as Twila Tanner, 51; Angelina Stone, 24, who was eight months pregnant; Jonathan Stone, 19; Matthew Stone Jr., 21; Michelle Stone, 44; and Lora Roberts, 37, reported the Erie Times-News, part of the USA TODAY Network.

Cook identified the suspect as Matthew Stone Sr., 45.

Cook told the Erie Times-News he is not permitted to release the names of the other two shooting victims, a 5-year-old boy and a girl who was 22 months old, because they are under 18. Erie police also did not release the names of the children.
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