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Merged Gaza just launched an unprovoked attack on Israel

 
 
 
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ZiprHead said:
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Israeli settlers attack European diplomats in West Bank

Settlers first attacked a group working on the lower slopes of hills near Taybeh. As well as stealing olives, they kicked, abused and assaulted a Palestinian woman in her 70s and beat a man so badly he needed six stitches for a head injury.

Then they approached the diplomats and Badoux, who was in Taybeh for the launch of a twinning agreement with his town in northern France. During the attack, the militants smashed the window of an armoured car belonging to the Belgian mission.
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Maxime Prévot, Belgium’s deputy prime minister and minister of foreign affairs, condemned the violence against Palestinians, foreign diplomats and journalists, and said his country would continue to push for European Union sanctions on settlers.

“Harvesting olives, reporting the news or carrying out diplomatic duties should never put anyone at risk of attack,” he said. “This violence cannot be separated from Israel’s illegal settlement policy … the occupation of the Palestinian territory must end.”

Palestinian residents of Taybeh have lived with years of escalating attacks from Israeli militants, but settlers had never targeted foreign diplomats there, said Father Bashar Fawadleh, the town’s parish priest.

“What happened today is not an isolated incident. It represents a deeply disturbing escalation in settler violence,” Fawadleh said.
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Derec said:
bilby said:
Evidence that ALL of the journalists killed by the IDF were terrorists?
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Why does it have to be ALL? Reporting from urban warzones is still a dangerous endeavor..
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What percentage do you think is appropriate to give to journalist being killed with zero investigation or accountability? 90% are hamas? 98% are hamas? Pleaze grow pair and let me know.
 
I am not anti Jewish in that over here we are all free to have beliefs. I do not support virulence and abuse of any kind of any group.

With what Israel is now doing to the West Bank as far as I am concerned Israel is as ugly and brutal as any modern regime has been.


Israel is getting what it has always wanted, eradication or displacement of Palestinians and occupation by Jews. There has always been a small Israeli support for Palestinian rights, but inconsequential.

If Is real disappeared I would not loose any sleep.

Israel has used up any good will based on historical abuses.
 
steve_bank said:
I am not anti Jewish in that over here we are all free to have beliefs. I do not support virulence and abuse of any kind of any group.

With what Israel is now doing to the West Bank as far as I am concerned Israel is as ugly and brutal as any modern regime has been.
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You should google 2023 October 7 attack by Hamas. You'll understand the context.

steve_bank said:
Israel is getting what it has always wanted, eradication or displacement of Palestinians and occupation by Jews. There has always been a small Israeli support for Palestinian rights, but inconsequential.

If Is real disappeared I would not loose any sleep.

Israel has used up any good will based on historical abuses.
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You're talking about a group of people, some who are Muslim and Arab, as if they operate as a singular body with a singular will. That's talking like a conspiracy theorist.

The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.

Here's a good interview with the comedian Ryan Spaulding on it. I love that guy. Always smart and fun


 
DrZoidberg said:
steve_bank said:
I am not anti Jewish in that over here we are all free to have beliefs. I do not support virulence and abuse of any kind of any group.

With what Israel is now doing to the West Bank as far as I am concerned Israel is as ugly and brutal as any modern regime has been.
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You should google 2023 October 7 attack by Hamas. You'll understand the context.
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You think killing hundreds of thousands of people who had nothing to do with and had no foreknowledge of the attack is okay? Most people do not. But you do you.

DrZoidberg said:
steve_bank said:
Israel is getting what it has always wanted, eradication or displacement of Palestinians and occupation by Jews. There has always been a small Israeli support for Palestinian rights, but inconsequential.

If Is real disappeared I would not loose any sleep.

Israel has used up any good will based on historical abuses.
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You're talking about a group of people, some who are Muslim and Arab, as if they operate as a singular body with a singular will. That's talking like a conspiracy theorist.
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No, that's your view of the Palestinian people.

DrZoidberg said:
The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.
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There have been plenty of realistic plans that have been put forward. Carpet bombing with 2000 lb bombs is just outright inhumane cruelty. That you cannot see that is your own wilful blindness.
 
DrZoidberg said:
The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.
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The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?
 
laughing dog said:
DrZoidberg said:
The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.
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The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?
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If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism
 
DrZoidberg said:
laughing dog said:
DrZoidberg said:
The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.
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The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?
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If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism
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So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?
 
Shadowy Man said:
DrZoidberg said:
laughing dog said:
DrZoidberg said:
The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.
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The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?
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If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism
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So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?
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No, he's saying that the disarming of Hamas for good is a required goal in order for anyone who disagrees with him to be taken seriously, but that he expects to be taken seriously himself, despite falling short of that goal.

There's one rule for his policies, and another rule for anyone with the temerity to challenge those policies.

It's a very effective way for him to ignore the deep flaws in his position.

You can't come up with a realistic plan, so you should be ignored. He can't come up with a realistic plan, so he should be congratulated on his pragmatism and compromise.
 
bilby said:
Shadowy Man said:
DrZoidberg said:
laughing dog said:
DrZoidberg said:
The people who have a problem with Israels actions don't seem to be able to come up with any kind of alternative realistic plan that will disarm Hamas for good.
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The bombing and invasion did not disarm Hamas for good, but it did kill tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Is that the realistic part of that plan?
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If you can't get what you want you'll have to settle for what you can get. Politics is the art of the possible. Its not an excercise in utopianism
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So, you are saying that since Israel could not get the disarmament of Hamas they settled for killing thousands of civilians? That’s a political victory?
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No, he's saying that the disarming of Hamas for good is a required goal in order for anyone who disagrees with him to be taken seriously, but that he expects to be taken seriously himself, despite falling short of that goal.

There's one rule for his policies, and another rule for anyone with the temerity to challenge those policies.

It's a very effective way for him to ignore the deep flaws in his position.

You can't come up with a realistic plan, so you should be ignored. He can't come up with a realistic plan, so he should be congratulated on his pragmatism and compromise.
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To be fair, that double standard is not original for Dr Z - it’s the position of every defender of Israel’s response.
 
Nevermind the total lack of effort and sheer indifference of Netanyahu's regime in retrieving the hostages taken on Oct 7 three fucking years ago. That they prioritise genocide, collective punishment and other fun war crimes over that is telling in and of itself.
 
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